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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 May 20 12.26am
Originally posted by dannyboy1978 Just imagine a country creates a virus, then creates a vacine then releases it around the world. Then comes up with a story of " we have nearly made a vacine" Surely not!!!! [Link] I claim my prize. You are really Alex Jones. Now tell the truth. If this vaccine is proved to work will you accept it, or reject it because it contains a microchip which will take control of your mind? It's Chinese remember. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 30 May 20 12.26am

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Just imagine a country creates a virus, then creates a vacine then releases it around the world. Then comes up with a story of " we have nearly made a vacine"

Surely not!!!!

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I claim my prize. You are really Alex Jones.

Now tell the truth. If this vaccine is proved to work will you accept it, or reject it because it contains a microchip which will take control of your mind?

It's Chinese remember.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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sitdownstandup 30 May 20 5.31am
Originally posted by Spiderman Or in a lab in Wuhan These 2 are both possibiliies - a lab in Wuhan created the pandemic or it began in a wet market after eating infected animals. However, if it was created in a lab there is little an individual can do to prevent that happening again in the future. If, however it started in animals and was transmitted to humans then every individual can make changes to ensure that a pandemic like this doesn't happen again in the future. Transitioning to a plant based diet and eliminating meat from our diets not only helps the environment, it also prevents animals from being subjected to the cruelty of factory farming and may well help to prevent future pandemics ocurring again. Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible God and destroys a visible Nature. Unaware that this Nature he’s destroying is this God he’s worshipping. Hubert Reeves
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Originally posted by Spiderman

Or in a lab in Wuhan

These 2 are both possibiliies - a lab in Wuhan created the pandemic or it began in a wet market after eating infected animals. However, if it was created in a lab there is little an individual can do to prevent that happening again in the future. If, however it started in animals and was transmitted to humans then every individual can make changes to ensure that a pandemic like this doesn't happen again in the future. Transitioning to a plant based diet and eliminating meat from our diets not only helps the environment, it also prevents animals from being subjected to the cruelty of factory farming and may well help to prevent future pandemics ocurring again.

Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible God and destroys a visible Nature. Unaware that this Nature he’s destroying is this God he’s worshipping.

Hubert Reeves

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sitdownstandup 30 May 20 5.49am
Originally posted by Mapletree I would say unlikely from a factory farm. They work like operating theatres. Have to change your clothes on entry etc. Factory farms are very difficut to gain access to. The only video you are likely to get of how they actually operate is from people breaking in to film them as they are protected by the meat industry. There are many videos circulating of terrible practices going on in supposedly 'high welfare' farms as well as factory farms. The workers are paid minimum wages and are doing work that is unrewarding and mentally and emotionallly draining. Animals are crammed in and given growth hormones to make them grow at unnatural rates. In the UK 30% of all antibiotics are fed to farm animals to protect them from disease. There is a real possibility that, as was the case with bird flu, mad cow disease and the current coronavirus that any future pandemic will begin in animals and be transmitted to humans. It may begin in a wet market or a factory farm but people should consider their food choices more carefully in order to reduce the likelihood of future pandemics occuring again. Edited by sitdownstandup (30 May 2020 7.18am) Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible God and destroys a visible Nature. Unaware that this Nature he’s destroying is this God he’s worshipping. Hubert Reeves
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30 May 20 5.49am

Originally posted by Mapletree

I would say unlikely from a factory farm. They work like operating theatres. Have to change your clothes on entry etc.

Factory farms are very difficut to gain access to. The only video you are likely to get of how they actually operate is from people breaking in to film them as they are protected by the meat industry. There are many videos circulating of terrible practices going on in supposedly 'high welfare' farms as well as factory farms.
The workers are paid minimum wages and are doing work that is unrewarding and mentally and emotionallly draining. Animals are crammed in and given growth hormones to make them grow at unnatural rates.
In the UK 30% of all antibiotics are fed to farm animals to protect them from disease.
There is a real possibility that, as was the case with bird flu, mad cow disease and the current coronavirus that any future pandemic will begin in animals and be transmitted to humans. It may begin in a wet market or a factory farm but people should consider their food choices more carefully in order to reduce the likelihood of future pandemics occuring again.

Edited by sitdownstandup (30 May 2020 7.18am)

Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible God and destroys a visible Nature. Unaware that this Nature he’s destroying is this God he’s worshipping.

Hubert Reeves

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Midlands Eagle 30 May 20 6.30am
Originally posted by Jimenez Slightly off kilter but still relevant. I have noticed especially over here even prior to this pandemic the amount of Hospital staff of all ranks who travel to work in their scrubs? If a Painter & decorator can take off his whites before traveling home on the subway or bus? Then surely hospital staff shouldn't be allowed to travel too & from to work in their scrubs!! In the UK they aren't allowed to unless they are completely covered up
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Originally posted by Jimenez

Slightly off kilter but still relevant. I have noticed especially over here even prior to this pandemic the amount of Hospital staff of all ranks who travel to work in their scrubs?
If a Painter & decorator can take off his whites before traveling home on the subway or bus? Then surely hospital staff shouldn't be allowed to travel too & from to work in their scrubs!!

In the UK they aren't allowed to unless they are completely covered up

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Spiderman Horsham 30 May 20 6.32am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Oh come on. They mean a lot to most people over 5. At least in my world they do. Tetchy
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Horsham 30 May 20 6.32am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Oh come on. They mean a lot to most people over 5. At least in my world they do.

Tetchy

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Spiderman Horsham 30 May 20 6.33am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle If you think my assertion is invalid, let's hear why that is. That you assert the virus comes from China is just that. An assertion. That others make it as well doesn't make it any more valid. Indeed because Trump is politicising it makes it even less likely to be true. So my assertion is that it's a baseless claim. If you want to counter that, present your evidence. Which is not that others say so too. Show me where they have "admitted" causing it! Show me what they have "covered up"! There are questions to be asked, that's true. But the answers are not yet available and won't be until properly investigated. So provide the evidence for your assertion or my assertion that its baseless stands. If you believe this kind of thing, which is resonant of the kind of garbage coming from Alex Jones at InfoWars, then the fool is you. What a surprise, Trump has a mention!
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Horsham 30 May 20 6.33am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If you think my assertion is invalid, let's hear why that is. That you assert the virus comes from China is just that. An assertion. That others make it as well doesn't make it any more valid. Indeed because Trump is politicising it makes it even less likely to be true. So my assertion is that it's a baseless claim. If you want to counter that, present your evidence. Which is not that others say so too. Show me where they have "admitted" causing it! Show me what they have "covered up"! There are questions to be asked, that's true. But the answers are not yet available and won't be until properly investigated.

So provide the evidence for your assertion or my assertion that its baseless stands.

If you believe this kind of thing, which is resonant of the kind of garbage coming from Alex Jones at InfoWars, then the fool is you.

What a surprise, Trump has a mention!

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Spiderman Horsham 30 May 20 6.35am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I claim my prize. You are really Alex Jones. Now tell the truth. If this vaccine is proved to work will you accept it, or reject it because it contains a microchip which will take control of your mind? It's Chinese remember. Have you had one already then?
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Horsham 30 May 20 6.35am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I claim my prize. You are really Alex Jones.

Now tell the truth. If this vaccine is proved to work will you accept it, or reject it because it contains a microchip which will take control of your mind?

It's Chinese remember.

Have you had one already then?

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Spiderman Horsham 30 May 20 6.38am
Originally posted by sitdownstandup These 2 are both possibiliies - a lab in Wuhan created the pandemic or it began in a wet market after eating infected animals. However, if it was created in a lab there is little an individual can do to prevent that happening again in the future. If, however it started in animals and was transmitted to humans then every individual can make changes to ensure that a pandemic like this doesn't happen again in the future. Transitioning to a plant based diet and eliminating meat from our diets not only helps the environment, it also prevents animals from being subjected to the cruelty of factory farming and may well help to prevent future pandemics ocurring again. Good post. Although expect a HOL backlash, as previously vegans were all branded idiots (or similar) on here
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Horsham 30 May 20 6.38am

Originally posted by sitdownstandup

Good post. Although expect a HOL backlash, as previously vegans were all branded idiots (or similar) on here

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DanH SW2 30 May 20 6.40am
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Spiderman Horsham 30 May 20 6.49am
Originally posted by Mapletree I would say unlikely from a factory farm. They work like operating theatres. Have to change your clothes on entry etc. Always exceptions [Link]
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Horsham 30 May 20 6.49am

Originally posted by Mapletree

I would say unlikely from a factory farm. They work like operating theatres. Have to change your clothes on entry etc.

Always exceptions

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Spiderman Horsham 30 May 20 7.08am
Originally posted by DanH Hippies These may disagree with you Dan! [Link]
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cryrst The garden of England 30 May 20 7.19am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Oh come on. They mean a lot to most people over 5. At least in my world they do. An admittance that you live in your own, honesty is the best policy wissie. You finally came out.
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The garden of England 30 May 20 7.19am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Oh come on. They mean a lot to most people over 5. At least in my world they do.

An admittance that you live in your own, honesty is the best policy wissie. You finally came out.

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