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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Apr 23 12.45pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Humanist.

Isn't this just an atheist who is simply saying I don't believe in god but trust me I'm still a nice guy.

Not really. It has many more positive attributes than that. Including many of the undertakings of religious believers who repeatedly fail to abide by them.

The golden rule is key.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 15 Apr 23 1.08pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Fair call, but would spell oomanist perhaps

Edited by HKOwen (15 Apr 2023 11.07am)

Wouldn't that be something to do with birds eggs? Sorry, person's eggs.

 

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palace_in_frogland Flag In a broken dream 15 Apr 23 1.17pm Send a Private Message to palace_in_frogland Add palace_in_frogland as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Wouldn't that be something to do with birds eggs? Sorry, person's eggs.

Ova my dead body…

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 16 Apr 23 10.31pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

The Chair of the Conservative Party, Greg Hands, proved totally unable to answer the ridiculously partisan questions asked by Lara Kuenssberg, despite her prompting and despite having his cheat notes written on the palm of his left hand.

Kuenssberg was not so kind to Wes Streeting which is strange given he did actually answer her questions.

 

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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 17 Apr 23 2.00am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

yeah, defund the BBC and that right wing bias.

Hands was hopeless and Streeting was trying to defend the indefensible record of Starmer as DPP on convictions and sentencing panel, even common man hater Thornberry complained to him in writing.

Just demonstrates that's what most politicians are like.

At least Streeting has outed the NHS as being in need of reform not just money.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 17 Apr 23 5.36pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Don't be silly.

The Nazi's were genocidal tyrants, who were always doomed to failure. The question was never if, but how and when. That wasn't change. It was attempted domination.

We face changes that are simply part of an evolution. It will work itself out in time. It must work within an environment. That which benefits will prosper. That which doesn't will fade away.

What utter cobblers.

Evolution has nothing to do with it. It is simply a matter of a small island of people being occupied and steadily replaced by people from other places.

This is a policy forced upon us by bureaucrats who couldn't care less about anything other than short term gain.

Our governments determine our policy on immigration, not Darwin, God, fate, the environment, or any other cop out excuse.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 17 Apr 23 5.42pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

When anyone suggests that they know my mind better than myself I know they have lost the plot. I know I believe all of humanity, at its heart, shares all our common characteristics. We want the same things. We need the same things. We feel the same things. The things that separate us are artificial constructions, especially that of religious belief. We can destroy, or avoid, such constructions. We cannot though destroy our common humanity.

We are undergoing a period of change. It's inevitable, given our situation and that which exists elsewhere. There is no reason to resent it and less reason to try to resist it. It's nothing new. It's just happening faster than in the past, just as everything is. You are not enjoying the ride, but your grandchildren won't even question they have been on one. Their concerns will be much more focussed on why we didn't spend more effort protecting them against the real threats they face.

'We'? Who is we?

We won't exist soon. That is not change. That is extinction.

Our grandchildren will face a divided country in upheaval, and their children could well be in a minority on an overpopulated island with natural resources being rationed.

All thanks to idiots.

 

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footythoughts Flag Beckenham 17 Apr 23 8.56pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

'We'? Who is we?

We won't exist soon. That is not change. That is extinction.

Our grandchildren will face a divided country in upheaval, and their children could well be in a minority on an overpopulated island with natural resources being rationed.

All thanks to idiots.

Who's 'our grandchildren'? If your grandchildren grow up to appreciate someone non white, are their kids less important to you on a racial basis? Do they transform into tragic signifiers of 'extinction' who you can't relate to? Racially distanced from at birth. Or are they instead just your great grandchildren afterall? Thankfully, I anticipate most having a more realistic and considered view of their value than you appear capable of.

There are valid arguments to be had about immigration, race and the like, but they certainly aren't present in your narrow and unrealistic distinctions.


Edited by footythoughts (17 Apr 2023 9.28pm)

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 17 Apr 23 9.38pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by footythoughts

Who's 'our grandchildren'? If your grandchildren grow up to appreciate someone non white, are their kids less important to you on a racial basis? Do they transform into tragic signifiers of 'extinction' who you can't relate to? Racially distanced from at birth. Or are they instead just your great grandchildren afterall? Thankfully, I anticipate most having a more realistic and considered view of their value than you appear capable of.

There are valid arguments to be had about immigration, race and the like, but they certainly aren't present in your narrow and unrealistic distinctions.

Go on then give one of your valid arguments ?


Edited by footythoughts (17 Apr 2023 9.28pm)

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Apr 23 9.58am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by footythoughts

Who's 'our grandchildren'? If your grandchildren grow up to appreciate someone non white, are their kids less important to you on a racial basis? Do they transform into tragic signifiers of 'extinction' who you can't relate to? Racially distanced from at birth. Or are they instead just your great grandchildren afterall? Thankfully, I anticipate most having a more realistic and considered view of their value than you appear capable of.

There are valid arguments to be had about immigration, race and the like, but they certainly aren't present in your narrow and unrealistic distinctions.


Edited by footythoughts (17 Apr 2023 9.28pm)

Forgive me, but I don't have a clue what you are talking about.

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 18 Apr 23 6.01pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Forgive me, but I don't have a clue what you are talking about.

Sort of my point of the question as well

 

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footythoughts Flag Beckenham 18 Apr 23 7.58pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Forgive me, but I don't have a clue what you are talking about.

You've not only talked about individual 'extinction' prior, you have used it to convey what you perceive to be genetic extiction. If your concern is our grandchildren being a minority unless you decide to operate by coersive family control regarding others procreation, you don't have meaningful say in racial realities on that level. As such. it's pointless to hold such a detached view of those who will inevitably by your own logic be 'your own' down the line not just some segment of genetic code you're desperately trying to escape from.

Aversions can be taken too far and often creep up and internal issues within families, rather than an external vent,. Well that or being forced to adopt a more realistic outlook about people and how to value them. God forbid. Immigration is realistically the beginning and end point of discussion on these issues. Drift too far from that and you're a walking advertisement for votes in the opposite direction rather than getting anyone onside.


Edited by footythoughts (18 Apr 2023 9.17pm)

 

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