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 Kermit8  Hevon 28 Nov 16 9.44pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
A bit desperate if you are now including Ireland. I have one Northern Irish great great grand parent. That is the best I can do for you Kermy. The odd incursion by non British people has next to no impact on the gene pool outside of London in thousands of years. I know it suits your narrative to claim otherwise. I expect a lefty loon is making up new history somewhere as we speak. Well millions of Irish (Northern Ireland wouldn't have existed around your gggparents' time) were considered immigrants here and over the pond, of course. My original point which you disputed stands. Very few in England today would not have an immigrant in their bloodline going back say 150 years. You are not one of them. Nor am I. Oh, and just to clarify, this is not about historical DNA being of mostly English origin it is about whether the majority of us have ancestors who came here as immigrants. Economic or otherwise. Edited by Kermit8 (28 Nov 2016 9.53pm)
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 Hrolf The Ganger  28 Nov 16 9.51pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Well millions of Irish (Northern Ireland wouldn't have existed around your gggparents' time) were considered immigrants here and over the pond, of course. My original point which you disputed stands. Very few in England today would not have an immigrant in their bloodline going back say 150 years. You are not one of them. Nor am I. And your claim is based on what? The problem with your anecdotal assertion is that even if true, it does add up to much in the grand scheme of genetics. You are trying to imply that many of us carrying a significant amount of genes from elsewhere and that is simply not true for the vast majority in most of the British Isles. Don't know many more ways I can say it.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 28 Nov 16 9.55pm |
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See my edit and clarification above. Dispute at your leisure.
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Ketteridge  Brighton 28 Nov 16 10.03pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
So apart from the other issues I've already pointed out you don't include Anglo Saxons as ancient Britain's which they use to cover huge areas of the most populated area. So by your thinking even large chunks of this small unrepresentative group can't trace their roots back to ancient Britain, so can you explain how the majority of Britains can trace their roots back to ancient britain?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 28 Nov 16 10.04pm |
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So now you are retrospectively editing your posts. I don't have to dispute anything. It is up to you to prove your original assertion.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 28 Nov 16 10.09pm |
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Originally posted by Ketteridge
So apart from the other issues I've already pointed out you don't include Anglo Saxons as ancient Britain's which they use to cover huge areas of the most populated area. So by your thinking even large chunks of this small unrepresentative group can't trace their roots back to ancient Britain, so can you explain how the majority of Britains can trace their roots back to ancient britain? I don't have to explain anything. The literature is out there. I know that some of you would dispute that the World is a sphere if it didn't suit your politics. I called out Kermy on his dodgy original statement. That's it.
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| Ketteridge Brighton 28 Nov 16 10.23pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I don't have to explain anything. The literature is out there. I know that some of you would dispute that the World is a sphere if it didn't suit your politics. I called out Kermy on his dodgy original statement. That's it. Fair enough,you don't need to explain anything you can make up a statement and mis represent some research just to suit your view but you should be aware that is what you are doing.
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| Pista Bristol 28 Nov 16 10.50pm |
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| blackpalacefan 28 Nov 16 11.41pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Well millions of Irish (Northern Ireland wouldn't have existed around your gggparents' time) were considered immigrants here and over the pond, of course. My original point which you disputed stands. Very few in England today would not have an immigrant in their bloodline going back say 150 years. You are not one of them. Nor am I. Oh, and just to clarify, this is not about historical DNA being of mostly English origin it is about whether the majority of us have ancestors who came here as immigrants. Economic or otherwise. Edited by Kermit8 (28 Nov 2016 9.53pm) Ireland somehow doesn't count now apparently. Most will know what is meant by "exotic" anyway. One day spent obsessing over how "foreign" non white brits on the TV look to some, and the next fixating on "foreign genes" in Britain and how in his family there isn't much of an "impact on the genepool". What does tomorrow hold I wonder?
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| davenotamonkey 28 Nov 16 11.57pm |
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Originally posted by johnfirewall
Bit confused by this talk of a 'block' to Brexit over even a 2nd referendum. Strong inflammatory language again. You're not the only one that's confused. - Butt-Hurt Remainiacs (BHRs): "After two years of poker, with only the UK playing with their cards in full view, it's time for us to vote on the agreement you've come to"
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| blackpalacefan 29 Nov 16 12.05am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
A bit desperate if you are now including Ireland. I have one Northern Irish great great grand parent. That is the best I can do for you Kermy. The odd incursion by non British people has next to no impact on the gene pool outside of London in thousands of years. I know it suits your narrative to claim otherwise. I expect a lefty loon is making up new history somewhere as we speak. You get to weight 'impact' how you wish and personally I view my own DNA with interest rather in terms of a kind of 'purity' through the ages. Here's the first result that came up for me [Link] It's a detailed DNA study based on a sample size of millions. It offers a clear take on how 'british' or 'foreign' our fellow countrymen are in every area of the country. The daily mail states the figure of 37% british on average. If you wish to discuss or contest this do so, but I won't be taking part as I don't care if someone is a few more percent from this place or that generations ago.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 29 Nov 16 12.13am |
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Originally posted by blackpalacefan
You get to weight 'impact' how you wish and personally I view my own DNA with interest rather in terms of your take of racial purity through the ages. Here's the first result that came up for me [Link] It's a detailed DNA study based on a sample size of millions. It offers a clear take on how 'british' or 'foreign' our fellow countrymen are in every area of the country. The daily mail states the figure of 37% british on average. If you wish to discuss or contest this do so, but I won't be taking part as I don't care if someone is a few more percentage from this place or that generations ago. Edited by blackpalacefan (29 Nov 2016 12.09am) Interesting that the mail would print such stuff.
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