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steeleye20 Croydon 27 Nov 16 6.43pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I've agreed that Hoof was out of his depth.
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.TUX. 28 Nov 16 7.07am | |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Interest rates are at an historic low though TUX? I had to pay interest at 15%+ when I had a mortgage - that wasn't a "breeze".... there was fcuk all left most months to spend on essentials, so I don't agree that spending money isn't hard. As I said most 2nd homeowners I know have worked hard to raise capital, then worked hard physically to create a habitable dwelling for others to rent, and should be applauded. Yes, and savers who've earn't diddly for many years (unfortunately) have put their money into property. Couple this with a banking system demanding ridiculous deposits from first-time buyers and we have a new market, 'buy-to-let'. That's not just ''hard'', it's nigh on impossible.
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Hoof Hearted 28 Nov 16 10.53am | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
It's more guff I'm afraid.
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Hoof Hearted 28 Nov 16 10.59am | |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
Yes, and savers who've earn't diddly for many years (unfortunately) have put their money into property. Couple this with a banking system demanding ridiculous deposits from first-time buyers and we have a new market, 'buy-to-let'. That's not just ''hard'', it's nigh on impossible. The "impossible" aim of encouraging more young people to buy houses will never be achieved without Brexit. Without Brexit, millions of immigrants will continue to pour into the UK creating a housing shortage and further sustained rise in house prices. I bet you voted Remain too, but if you were serious about wanting to encourage more home ownership you would be anti-immigration surely? That is the reality TUX.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 28 Nov 16 11.36am | |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
The "impossible" aim of encouraging more young people to buy houses will never be achieved without Brexit. Without Brexit, millions of immigrants will continue to pour into the UK creating a housing shortage and further sustained rise in house prices. I bet you voted Remain too, but if you were serious about wanting to encourage more home ownership you would be anti-immigration surely? That is the reality TUX. Really?
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Hrolf The Ganger 28 Nov 16 12.40pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Really? Not to mention wage suppression. Have you not realised that stagnation of wages is directly related to immigration.
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Kermit8 Hevon 28 Nov 16 12.50pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Not to mention wage suppression. Have you not realised that stagnation of wages is directly related to immigration.
As we are nearly all the kids or grandkids or great grandkids of immigrants ourselves let's not be too quick to jump on the next generation. It would be disproportionate.
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Painter Croydon 28 Nov 16 1.19pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
As we are nearly all the kids or grandkids or great grandkids of immigrants ourselves let's not be too quick to jump on the next generation. It would be disproportionate. That maybe true, but those days of our forefathers, there wasn't benefits, free health and housing. They came here they had to work to survive.
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.TUX. 28 Nov 16 2.25pm | |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
The "impossible" aim of encouraging more young people to buy houses will never be achieved without Brexit. Without Brexit, millions of immigrants will continue to pour into the UK creating a housing shortage and further sustained rise in house prices. That is the reality TUX. Firstly, i stopped voting for anything political over 20yrs ago.
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Hrolf The Ganger 28 Nov 16 4.30pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
As we are nearly all the kids or grandkids or great grandkids of immigrants ourselves let's not be too quick to jump on the next generation. It would be disproportionate. Really? As far as I can make out, most of my ancestors have been here since at least the Norman Conquests. That probably applies to the vast majority of people. I know you lefties like to avoid reality for the sake of ideology but denying the link between immigration and wages is almost as daft as denying the link with the housing shortage.
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Kermit8 Hevon 28 Nov 16 4.54pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Really? As far as I can make out, most of my ancestors have been here since at least the Norman Conquests. That probably applies to the vast majority of people. I know you lefties like to avoid reality for the sake of ideology but denying the link between immigration and wages is almost as daft as denying the link with the housing shortage. You are not at the races today. Half of London has an ethnic background now and even in the 1970's in my class, apart from two (Indian heritage), it was chock near full of European Italian, Polish, Irish, French Portuguese and one Scot descendent kids of immigrants. I would hazard a guess that not many people at all in the UK have 8 great grandparents that were all born in England. Edited by Kermit8 (28 Nov 2016 4.55pm)
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Hrolf The Ganger 28 Nov 16 5.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
You are not at the races today. Half of London has an ethnic background now and even in the 1970's in my class, apart from two (Indian heritage), it was chock near full of European Italian, Polish, Irish, French Portuguese and one Scot descendent kids of immigrants. I would hazard a guess that not many people at all in the UK have 8 great grandparents that were all born in England. Edited by Kermit8 (28 Nov 2016 4.55pm)
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