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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 13 Apr 23 4.54pm | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Just for my own musing, do you consider the below statement to be certainly true? "a huge percentage of people in this country are considerably more concerned with Kier Starmer's answer to "what is a woman?" than they are with our failing public services and declining living standards." I believe it to be true, yes, that’s why I said it. If you don’t agree, you can suggest it’s not the case just as I have with becky’s post… isn’t that how this works?
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 13 Apr 23 5.22pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
I believe it to be true, yes, that’s why I said it. If you don’t agree, you can suggest it’s not the case just as I have with becky’s post… isn’t that how this works? Nah. That was the extent of my involvement for now… plus this post confirming that.
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cryrst The garden of England 13 Apr 23 6.02pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
It is, however, a very strategic decision and will continue to ramp up over the coming months - the Tories know they don't have any hope of winning an election running on policy and their track record, so the only way they gain support is by inventing and stoking these weird culture war talking points and hope they pick up enough votes that way. And it works... a huge percentage of people in this country are considerably more concerned with Kier Starmer's answer to "what is a woman?" than they are with our failing public services and declining living standards. If the public thought rainy days happen then just maybe they could have prevented some of the pain. ‘Declining standards’ we are where we should have been years ago and do you believe as many as are claiming to be pot-less actually are? Look at shops and restaurants and cinemas etc. town centres don’t appear to be slowing down. It’s called jumping on the bandwagon from people who want free stuff. I’m not saying many are suffering yes and should have help but not the amount who claim to be in that position.
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becky over the moon 13 Apr 23 8.34pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Not only is this a complete non sequitur, it's also almost certainly untrue. Put a frock and some slap on and go find out for yourself...
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Apr 23 9.27pm | |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
So you are obviously into RnB and rap. ? How many corner shops were open on a Sunday before the Asians took a lot of them ? Ever seen a White person working in a curry house or Chinese Take-away ? Actually, without being totally objectionable, there is a mixture in practice. Lots of cities have enclaves of immigrants, quite substantial in some of them. Some immigrants do integrate, but more often they tend to group together as a separate sub-group Edited by Forest Hillbilly (13 Apr 2023 12.50pm) Not at all "into" rnb or rap! Yes, to the second. The last time we ate in a curry house all the servers were "white". New arrivals tend to gravitate to areas where they feel comfortable, often sharing a home for a while. That's nothing new or unusual. That will dissipate over time. How much time depends on many things. It can take several generations receiving a better education, becoming more familiar with and accepting of British culture and being accepted within it. I can see it happening, even if others don't. Some will probably always live in enclaves, some because of religion, just look at Golders Green, some because of deprivation, but it will lessen. Where people have their home is not exclusively where they spend their lives. Some areas will be permanently changed, like Leicester, but will become more prosperous and develop their own character. Others will arrive, for sure, but not necessarily from the same areas, and the pattern will repeat. I see nothing to be unduly concerned about. We need to find the ways to cope with this because to not do so would produce a worse outcome. We ought not be frightened by change. It's always been with us in one way or another, and this is simply another way.
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Teddy Eagle 13 Apr 23 9.49pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Not at all "into" rnb or rap! Yes, to the second. The last time we ate in a curry house all the servers were "white". New arrivals tend to gravitate to areas where they feel comfortable, often sharing a home for a while. That's nothing new or unusual. That will dissipate over time. How much time depends on many things. It can take several generations receiving a better education, becoming more familiar with and accepting of British culture and being accepted within it. I can see it happening, even if others don't. Some will probably always live in enclaves, some because of religion, just look at Golders Green, some because of deprivation, but it will lessen. Where people have their home is not exclusively where they spend their lives. Some areas will be permanently changed, like Leicester, but will become more prosperous and develop their own character. Others will arrive, for sure, but not necessarily from the same areas, and the pattern will repeat. I see nothing to be unduly concerned about. We need to find the ways to cope with this because to not do so would produce a worse outcome. We ought not be frightened by change. It's always been with us in one way or another, and this is simply another way. Several generations from when? Those who arrived fifty years ago or those who arrived today?
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Apr 23 9.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
So now you are beginning to see the reality, but it doesn't matter as long as all those Asians, Africans and Poles like fish and chips. Well, I am not so keen to see our gene pool erased. I think it's an insult to those who worked and fought for this country over thousands of years, especially since a number of those foes were very keen on wiping out entire races. Let's be like Wisbech and adopt a nothing matters fatalistic, nihilistic attitude to everything. It's you who don't see the reality. Which is that we need younger people to bolster our work force and maintain our economy. It might surprise you, but there are a great deal more important things in British culture than fish and chips, which have, in any case, been replaced in popularity by Chicken Tikka Masala. Think about what that tells us! Our gene pool won't be "erased". With all humans sharing 99.9% of each other's genes that couldn't happen in any circumstances. How many new arrivals will intermarry? Over many generations things will be different, just as they have been before, but by then no-one will notice, or care. We have taught our Commonwealth cousins to consider themselves British. People came from the Caribbean, Australia, South Africa, New Zealand, Canada and India to fight with us in WW2. I suspect you approve of some of them joining us, but not others. The idea that our "race" will be wiped out, without guns and gas chambers, is a disgusting comment. It's an insult both to all those who were actually the victims of a genocide but also to those arriving here with nothing more than a desire for a better life.
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georgenorman 13 Apr 23 9.56pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Not at all "into" rnb or rap! Yes, to the second. The last time we ate in a curry house all the servers were "white". New arrivals tend to gravitate to areas where they feel comfortable, often sharing a home for a while. That's nothing new or unusual. That will dissipate over time. How much time depends on many things. It can take several generations receiving a better education, becoming more familiar with and accepting of British culture and being accepted within it. I can see it happening, even if others don't. Some will probably always live in enclaves, some because of religion, just look at Golders Green, some because of deprivation, but it will lessen. Where people have their home is not exclusively where they spend their lives. Some areas will be permanently changed, like Leicester, but will become more prosperous and develop their own character. Others will arrive, for sure, but not necessarily from the same areas, and the pattern will repeat. I see nothing to be unduly concerned about. We need to find the ways to cope with this because to not do so would produce a worse outcome. We ought not be frightened by change. It's always been with us in one way or another, and this is simply another way. You are like a child talking about father Christmas.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Apr 23 10.01pm | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Environment does play a role, along with a common language, similar race, religion (spiritual and secular) and a shared history. People do not magically acquire these things - they might over many hundreds of years. As with all of life today it's happening ever more quickly. New technology arrives, we all adopt it and all share it. We might have different pasts, but we share a today and a future. Religion is certainly an issue, but you know my solution to that.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Apr 23 10.08pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Several generations from when? Those who arrived fifty years ago or those who arrived today? The effect on those who arrived fifty years ago is observable. Those today obviously cannot, but it ought to be quicker, everything else being equal. We won't know yet.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Apr 23 10.10pm | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
You are like a child talking about father Christmas.
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Teddy Eagle 13 Apr 23 10.13pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
There are several terms with -phobia attached which would argue against that idea.
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