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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 26 Nov 16 11.15am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
What is this pathetic "post truth" drivel that you lefties are trying to pedal? There is and never has been any truth in politics, that's not how it works. Anyone with a mental age of more than eight knows this and knows why. It's all starting to sound very Orwellian. The only truth is your truth eh comrade. Peddle. You pedal a bicycle.
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davenotamonkey 26 Nov 16 11.30am | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
How will you reduce migration, given that trade deals will probably hinge on it. You voted to leave the EU so welfare payments can be reduced. Are you referring to the immigrants that simultaneously cream off benefits whilst taking our jobs? Don't get me wrong, I want brexit to work, I don't think anyone wants it to go tits up to say told you so. But I haven't seen anything positive about it yet. Edited by nickgusset (25 Nov 2016 4.37pm) I do feel a bit sorry for those still debating the why we should leave or remain after the well after referendum. If you are still asking the question "why are we leaving", I'd suggest you didn't pay attention to the other side of the argument at the time. I suggest you check out the myriad online resources that were available to you before the referendum. As for the "trade deals" hinging on migration: can I ask where the freedom of movement clause is in the Canada-EU CETA agreement? How much do Canada pay to access the single market (99% tariff free for non-agricultural trade, 92% tariff free for agricultural trade)? Canada is the EU's 10th most important market. I believe the UK will be the EU's most important market.
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Hrolf The Ganger 26 Nov 16 11.30am | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Peddle. You pedal a bicycle. Very good. You clearly haven't made it to eight just yet. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (26 Nov 2016 11.31am)
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davenotamonkey 26 Nov 16 11.38am | |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
No, not if that was in breach of the rules. I'm not a hypocrite, see? What I don't like, however, is selective prosecution based purely on political ideology. That sounds a little dangerous to me. I'm sure their defence will hold up really well on Monday, and there will be absolutely no bias in those making the ruling. Meanwhile, I'm sure the extra £9m we paid for a pro-EU propaganda leaflet delivered to each and every household was not "misspent". In fact, I guarantee it, The rules are only applicable when convenient.
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steeleye20 Croydon 26 Nov 16 11.39am | |
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If they added the word 'brexit' to the dictionary regardless of political ideas we will recognise it in the future. But post-truth is another nonsense word - to think it will be in respected dictionaries. IMO its supposed to mean where emotion overcomes reason or so I read - so for example Trump is emotion and Clinton is reason. Who decides this? Post something simply means after it has happened. As for the truth well thats 'rarely pure and never simple' - and my take is something we may or not ever find out? Whoops thats Brexit......
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Hoof Hearted 26 Nov 16 11.44am | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Peddle. You pedal a bicycle. You have now found a new level beyond numpty. Seriously, you must be bereft of coherent argument if you are now stooping to correct typo/grammatical errors.
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Hoof Hearted 26 Nov 16 11.47am | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
If they added the word 'brexit' to the dictionary regardless of political ideas we will recognise it in the future. But post-truth is another nonsense word - to think it will be in respected dictionaries. IMO its supposed to mean where emotion overcomes reason or so I read - so for example Trump is emotion and Clinton is reason. Who decides this? Post something simply means after it has happened. As for the truth well thats 'rarely pure and never simple' - and my take is something we may or not ever find out? Whoops thats Brexit......
Well said that man. That's 2 posts of yours and 1 of Kermy's I've agreed with recently. Sadly the same can't be said for Gusset.
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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 26 Nov 16 11.53am | |
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Moaners will not change Brexit stance I am afraid.
Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky. |
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Stuk Top half 26 Nov 16 11.54am | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Catching the zeitgeist of the 'post truth' society. There's not a single fact in his quotes, nor a source. You are possibly the only person on here that would find that to be acceptable evidence in a counter argument. And as I said, Spain is the only possible example in the entire EU.
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matt_himself Matataland 26 Nov 16 12.30pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
They could find new markets like we are going to do according to Brexiteers but that isn't going to be good news to the UK businesses that trade with them now as EU partners in the short term. Still, it's only British jobs we are talking about and mostly jobs that will be on the lower end pay scale wise. Or we could create new jobs:
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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steeleye20 Croydon 26 Nov 16 12.37pm | |
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Originally posted by npn
I assume you will feel the same if they manage to force through another referendum and get the result they want, so only remainers will pay the 350m a week to be EU members? Just to clarify, I didn't vote to leave, but I find all this "well I didn't vote for it so I shouldn't have to pay" stuff laughable. I assume you would also back the hard right's pleas to not pay anything towards the support of immigrants, for instance? Take your point I am feeling the 'tyranny of brexit' I would just never trigger Article 50 anyway.
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Kermit8 Hevon 26 Nov 16 1.11pm | |
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And now the bit The Daily Mail doesn't want you to see.. "Jaguar Land Rover's chief executive Dr Ralf Speth has laid out a future vision which could see 10,000 new jobs created in the West Midlands. BBC
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