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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 10.21pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

The whim was that some banks decided it wasn't worth their while to apply for the necessary permissions to continue.

If true, it's not a whim. It's a business decision.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 30 Jul 23 10.37pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If true, it's not a whim. It's a business decision.

It is true and it's not Farage's fault that Barclays decided their £100,000,000 a week profits weren't enough to cover a service for their customers.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 10.59pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

It is true and it's not Farage's fault that Barclays decided their £100,000,000 a week profits weren't enough to cover a service for their customers.

Who said it was his fault?

The accusation is about the hypocrisy he is now engaged in by milking his public display of his private affairs and making a fuss about "all the others who have been debanked", when he could, and perhaps should, have been making the same point you made above. He isn't, and probably won't, because it would turn the spotlight back on him as the architect of the base reason for their closure.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 30 Jul 23 11.17pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Who said it was his fault?

The accusation is about the hypocrisy he is now engaged in by milking his public display of his private affairs and making a fuss about "all the others who have been debanked", when he could, and perhaps should, have been making the same point you made above. He isn't, and probably won't, because it would turn the spotlight back on him as the architect of the base reason for their closure.

If he is indeed a hypocrite then what's the big deal? By your own admission politics is full of truth economists but hypocrisy is worse?

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 31 Jul 23 8.27am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

If he is indeed a hypocrite then what's the big deal? By your own admission politics is full of truth economists but hypocrisy is worse?

That's for everyone to judge for themselves. My view is that Farage tries to portray himself as different to other politicians. He likes to be seen as a beer-swilling man of the people. "Good ol Nigel", who's one of us and on our side. When the truth is he is no different at all. He comes from a privileged background and made loads of money in the City before becoming obsessed with our EU membership and becoming a populist politician. A politician whose approach harnesses xenophobia as a motive force to drive policies that, in my view, damage our country.

Exposing his hypocritical character and showing him to be every bit, and often much more, a devious politician than all the rest may open the eyes of some people and enable them to see him in a fresh light.

My own view of Farage hardened when I saw him fawning over Trump, someone I regard as the worst political development I have witnessed in my lifetime. In many ways, Farage is our Trump. Not so extreme, or corrupt, but that's mainly because of the environment within which both operate. The two of them supporting each other makes my buttocks wince.

His now using GB News as a free daily political platform is similar to the way Trump used to use Twitter. Bypass the pesky need to have journalists report and analyse what you say. Go directly to the people and get your spin straight into their ears, unfiltered. Posing as a journalist yourself is a clever way of fooling the people again, just as he did in 2016.

This is populist politics and it's unhealthy. Read the thread on Netanyahu to understand why.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 31 Jul 23 8.50am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That's for everyone to judge for themselves. My view is that Farage tries to portray himself as different to other politicians. He likes to be seen as a beer-swilling man of the people. "Good ol Nigel", who's one of us and on our side. When the truth is he is no different at all. He comes from a privileged background and made loads of money in the City before becoming obsessed with our EU membership and becoming a populist politician. A politician whose approach harnesses xenophobia as a motive force to drive policies that, in my view, damage our country.

Exposing his hypocritical character and showing him to be every bit, and often much more, a devious politician than all the rest may open the eyes of some people and enable them to see him in a fresh light.

My own view of Farage hardened when I saw him fawning over Trump, someone I regard as the worst political development I have witnessed in my lifetime. In many ways, Farage is our Trump. Not so extreme, or corrupt, but that's mainly because of the environment within which both operate. The two of them supporting each other makes my buttocks wince.

His now using GB News as a free daily political platform is similar to the way Trump used to use Twitter. Bypass the pesky need to have journalists report and analyse what you say. Go directly to the people and get your spin straight into their ears, unfiltered. Posing as a journalist yourself is a clever way of fooling the people again, just as he did in 2016.

This is populist politics and it's unhealthy. Read the thread on Netanyahu to understand why.

Trump is the worst political development of your lifetime? That's some claim considering Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao, Amin. Gaddafi, Saddam, Mugabe and Hitler were also included in that period.
Farage is an opportunist of course but so are all politicians.
As to his claimed hypocrisy I don't see it as any worse than a PM who's married into a billionaire's family telling us how rough austerity is or a leader of the opposition who's an ennobled barrister doing the same.

 

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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 31 Jul 23 8.54am Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

From what I have read some banks were able to find work-arounds, so maybe you have been lucky. I think Santander, being a Spanish bank, were able to do that, but I am not certain. Others have not been so lucky. Many thousands lost their accounts.

not Santander, wrong again.....getting to be a habit,isnt it?

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 31 Jul 23 9.10am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

I see that Wisbech has made this thread all about Brexit again.

Brexit is done.

Meanwhile... Wisbech thinks it's OK to close bank accounts because of political opinions. He actually defends that policy.

Think about that. This is the view of the self proclaimed 'one nation conservative'.
He is a leftist pure and simple. His opinions are echoed by the purple haired loony left.

This Tory party have done nothing to conserve what is left of Britishness. Heaven help us when Starmer gets in. It won't be long before the veneer of middle ground politics evaporates and the loons rear their heads again.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 31 Jul 23 12.20pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Trump is the worst political development of your lifetime? That's some claim considering Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao, Amin. Gaddafi, Saddam, Mugabe and Hitler were also included in that period.
Farage is an opportunist of course but so are all politicians.
As to his claimed hypocrisy I don't see it as any worse than a PM who's married into a billionaire's family telling us how rough austerity is or a leader of the opposition who's an ennobled barrister doing the same.

Hitler's influence was all but over when I was born. I was only 9 when Stalin died. There's more of an argument for Mao. The others were all much more regional in their impact. I single out Trump because of the power and influence of the USA and its connection to us and the rest of the Western democracies.

Maybe Farage is no worse, that's debatable, but he is no better. That's the point. He isn't the champion of the common man, untouched by a corrupt system, that he pretends to be.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 31 Jul 23 12.30pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I see that Wisbech has made this thread all about Brexit again.

Brexit is done.

Meanwhile... Wisbech thinks it's OK to close bank accounts because of political opinions. He actually defends that policy.

Think about that. This is the view of the self proclaimed 'one nation conservative'.
He is a leftist pure and simple. His opinions are echoed by the purple haired loony left.

This Tory party have done nothing to conserve what is left of Britishness. Heaven help us when Starmer gets in. It won't be long before the veneer of middle ground politics evaporates and the loons rear their heads again.

Untrue. This thread is about the closure of Farage's account by Coutts. As Farage and Brexit are uniquely linked his activity during that period it is inevitably going to be referred to at some point.

It has nothing to do with any opinion of me. Or the left. Or the Tory party. Or Starmer. Or the closure of bank accounts because of political opinions. Just the closure of Farage's account by Coutts, which was for reputational reasons.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 31 Jul 23 12.34pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Hitler's influence was all but over when I was born. I was only 9 when Stalin died. There's more of an argument for Mao. The others were all much more regional in their impact. I single out Trump because of the power and influence of the USA and its connection to us and the rest of the Western democracies.

Maybe Farage is no worse, that's debatable, but he is no better. That's the point. He isn't the champion of the common man, untouched by a corrupt system, that he pretends to be.

Their impact may have been regional but it resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands, in some cases many millions, of people.
Whatever Trump's failings he's not remotely in the same league.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 31 Jul 23 12.35pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

I notice that Farage has now started a campaign for the thousands of ordinary people who have already been de-banked in this country.

I consider that quite a noble cause and one well worth supporting.....the banks have been caught abusing a law that was not meant for this purpose.

He has brought the issue to the fore and it can be noted that no politician was concerned or talking about this issue before the wokies at Coutts decided to ruin their bank.

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Jul 2023 12.37pm)

 


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