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 Teddy Eagle  06 Feb 22 8.39pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Queen Camilla and Boris Johnson. Doesn't this also sum up the Queen's reign, a descent into irrelevance and unimportance. Nobody's listening anymore.
And what exactly could she have done without being told that as an unelected person she has no say?
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Stirlingsays  06 Feb 22 8.44pm |
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Originally posted by Joe Bloggs
Perhaps you are too young to recall the Tory MP( Milligan) who accidently killed himself while wearing a suspender belt and stocking.....something about having a plastic bag over his head during his fun and games. No I remember that. I don't really have a problem with what private individuals get up to behind their front door if it's consensual and doesn't involve the underage. I however don't need to hear about it....let alone be expected to agree or celebrate it nor expect it to be promoted as an equally valid lifestyle to my children.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Feb 22 9.08pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Yep, the right don't currently have a party to vote for. And those running the election committees on new parties seem to think that new parties have to sign up to all the alphabet and minority ideologies to be allowed to actually compete for votes....So the dissident or traditional religious parties aren't currently allowed without ditching their core principles. You can't help but have the impression that neo liberalism is just another form of authoritarianism....you aren't allowed to offer an alternative to it....unless you're the communist party or other formula of left. Like the Muslims are doing it just makes sense to community build. Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Feb 2022 7.31pm) Maybe the answer to that is obvious. That there are less of them than there are Monster Raving Loonies? Perhaps the "right", as some posting here define it, should apply to join the OMRLP. It would seem an appropriate place for them. They don't appear to actually have any policies, so it's a good match, and their slogan "Vote for Insanity" is entirely apt.
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| Stirlingsays 06 Feb 22 9.19pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Maybe the answer to that is obvious. That there are less of them than there are Monster Raving Loonies? Perhaps the "right", as some posting here define it, should apply to join the OMRLP. It would seem an appropriate place for them. They don't appear to actually have any policies, so it's a good match, and their slogan "Vote for Insanity" is entirely apt. 'Perhaps the right as some define it?' Ok, but as soon as I defined 'social liberalism' you decided to want to deconstruct and go all philosophical....what was it? 'there's more than one interpretation'....well, that's no different on the dissident right even amongst themselves....it also has its left and right. As for your mockery....I'm fine with that as you are practically its opposite...an elitist establishment back bender. The dissident right only ask for the right to compete for votes. And also, like I stated other groups who want to start political parties like traditional religious groups should be allowed their voice as well. People opposed to how society is going should be allowed to feel represented by those who agree with them.....Nothing more, nothing less.
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 georgenorman 06 Feb 22 10.20pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Maybe the answer to that is obvious. That there are less of them than there are Monster Raving Loonies? Perhaps the "right", as some posting here define it, should apply to join the OMRLP. It would seem an appropriate place for them. They don't appear to actually have any policies, so it's a good match, and their slogan "Vote for Insanity" is entirely apt. But surely you are on the right as you ridiculously call yourself a 'one nation Tory'.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Feb 22 10.40pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
'Perhaps the right as some define it?' Ok, but as soon as I defined 'social liberalism' you decided to want to deconstruct and go all philosophical....what was it? 'there's more than one interpretation'....well, that's no different on the dissident right even amongst themselves....it also has its left and right. As for your mockery....I'm fine with that as you are practically its opposite...an elitist establishment back bender. The dissident right only ask for the right to compete for votes. And also, like I stated other groups who want to start political parties like traditional religious groups should be allowed their voice as well. People opposed to how society is going should be allowed to feel represented by those who agree with them.....Nothing more, nothing less.
Who is stopping them? The complaint was that no party existed. Start one. Some of us would be very pleased to know they had something other to do than post on football forums.
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 06 Feb 22 10.42pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
In times of strife the tories play the racial card and hey presto! It's Kwasi. 'Fraud is not necessarily a crime' (?) 'The crime figures show a decline of 14% since Boris'. Errm actually, there has been a general increase of 14% not a reduction. Well who put that out.
Labour had Lammy doing the TV yesterday, I always thought he was black, my bad.
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| Stirlingsays 06 Feb 22 10.42pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Who is stopping them? The complaint was that no party existed. Start one. Some of us would be very pleased to know they had something other to do than post on football forums. The election commission is the short answer to that. I've kind of already explained that.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Feb 22 10.48pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
But surely you are on the right as you ridiculously call yourself a 'one nation Tory'. I do, which is why I was poking fun at the comment. I am centre right, a believer in capitalism with a social conscience. As practised by one nation Tories.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Feb 22 11.01pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The election commission is the short answer to that. I've kind of already explained that. I think it's The Electoral Commission being referenced. Their requirements to register a new party don't seem the least bit restrictive. If the OMRLP can achieve it then I see no reason why the "Dissident Right" would hit a problem.
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| Stirlingsays 06 Feb 22 11.51pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I think it's The Electoral Commission being referenced. Their requirements to register a new party don't seem the least bit restrictive. If the OMRLP can achieve it then I see no reason why the "Dissident Right" would hit a problem. The largest 'dissident right' group have had their application for being a political party knocked back four times.....for the reasons previously stated. It's actually close to becoming a legal matter. I know of one traditional religious group, in this case black Christians, who have also been knocked back with the citing of similar ideological objections. If you disagree that this should happen then we have a rare area of agreement. Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Feb 2022 11.52pm)
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| Badger11 Beckenham 07 Feb 22 8.09am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The election commission is the short answer to that. I've kind of already explained that. I think it is almost impossible to create a successful new party. Back in the eighties Labour were unelectable this lead to the SDP and then Lib Dems however as soon as a moderate left party started to make traction the Labour Party reacted. Labour kicked out some of the more odious members rebranded itself as cuddly New Labour and the public accepted that bye bye SDP / Liberals as an election force. The Tories did the same with UKIP once Nigel started to win votes they had to react the best way to do that is to adopt your competitors clothes.* Now that Labour and the Tory part have seen off the threat from their rivals they just revert to their natural state and ignore the voters. *Remoaners often complain that the Tories should never have allowed a referendum but they reacted exactly the same way as Labour did under john Smith and then Tony Blair. The difference being that Labour was in opposition when they made their changes. So In summary anytime a new party appears whichever one it threatens just adopts its policies until the public lose interest. Both Tory and Labour adopted Green policies to some extent when they started to gain traction. One thing for sure is that if a new party does emerge it wont be Gina Miller's Edited by Badger11 (07 Feb 2022 8.11am)
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