It's all nuts.

While I don't agree with racial language....and that should be sorted out in-house I have to say the idea that people can't have fun and blow off steam because others take offence is similarly out of order....it should have all been sorted out with apologies...but I don't think this has been up front and honest.

Words are words and intent and context matters......A world where the race card is accepted for every perceived slight has led to the current 'witch trial' culture.

What is really evil about all this is that if you think like me but are say really good at cricket or football then you are persecuted out of the game.

It's the opposite of meritocracy.

I'll make the point again.....When the social conservatives ruled these institutions....back when Botham, Gower and Boycott were playing if you held the opposite opinions....no one stopped you making a living.

This point really needs forcing home because what is happening isn't good and it isn't progress, in fact I regard it as authoritarianism and anti western.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Nov 2021 1.13pm)

I sort of agree although I would add it should be fairly easy for casual racism to be got rid of in society without making white British people feel guilty just for being white British. This is what has got a lot of people's backs up.

If the world moves on to a different approach in viewing races from around the world then why has it become so important to keep dragging up the past when we all know people thought and acted differently years ago?

With the exception of probably three or four posters on here we would probably all admit to having laughed at and enjoyed programmes such as love thy neighbour, however times change. It doesn't mean however that all of a sudden it should be ok to drag up the past and try to destroy people for past deeds.

It's all about education and tolerance and ageing. I say that because my grandfather for instance hated the Japanese having been involved in the war and that hatred lasted with him for a lifetime. Casual racism as opposed to overt racism as a general rule will slowly disappear as the world gets smaller in relative terms but don't expect to be able to force people to have fluffy thoughts for all just because they are told to, as with the best will in the world that aint going to happen.

No one is making anyone feel guilty for being white British. I’m white British and proud of it. You can be proud of it but still self-aware enough to know that it gives you a massive advantage in this country (especially also being a white British male) and not treat other non-white British males like sh*t.

I disagree that there exists any undue advantage to being white in Britain. White kids are at the bottom of the educational ladder for example. As you saw in the highest earning stats the white British weren't at the top. In most places around the world that wouldn't be allowed to happen.

I'll also make the point that being English in England should mean that you should expect to come first.....for example, housing for example. I know many countries in Asia have rules protecting their nationals.

That should also be the case in South Africa, China, Ireland, Spain and anywhere else. Being a national should mean more.

Take Spain for example...I can't say I agree with us taking over their street names and local areas. First and foremost Spain is for the Spanish......Paul McCartney once sang that about Ireland....but no one is out there saying it for the UK that's for sure.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Nov 2021 2.06pm)

You certainly have some odd thoughts!

I never said anything of the sort. It's all in your mind.