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james03 Bangkok 02 Jan 11 10.20am | |
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Mr. Parish came onto the boards far too quickly in my opinion and he was trying to be 'one of the boys.' Now look through every answer he gave which either (i) gave no information we really did not have already and (ii) in some cases, e.g. the squad size GB inherited, were complete rubbish. He should have waited a day, maybe two, seen the mood of the fans, perhaps issued a well prepared statement on the boards and been prepared to answer questions then. I am sure neither he nor Martin Long run their businesses in such a manner. I am afraid they have lost some respect from me through this ill conceived chat which was Mr. Parish's knee jerk reaction to his earlier knee jerk reaction. Edited by james03 (02 Jan 2011 9.48am) While coming on here may have been a knee jerk reaction I think he made it clear that the sacking wasn't and he had been thinking for a while he had made a mistake with the original appointment. A few other posters had said they were troubled by this being a decision made on one game. I don't think thats the case at all. A decision is made in and instant of time - hopefully after pros and cons have been weighed up in advance - and once the decision is made it is best to put it into effect immediately. To find the reason why yesterday was the tipping point in the timing of the decision then In this case we need to defer to those fans who went to the game yesterday and saw a completely unacceptable performance with no fight at all in front of a passionate away support. Personally I am surprised that this happened yesterday and thought George Burley would get more time. But watching such a performance and being about to hand over a million quid (or whatever) to the person responsible to then spend when they have turned turned down opportunities in the past couple of months to strengthen our obvious weaknesses does seem very understandable.
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eaglescpfc123 02 Jan 11 10.22am | |
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Mr. Parish came onto the boards far too quickly in my opinion and he was trying to be 'one of the boys.' Now look through every answer he gave which either (i) gave no information we really did not have already and (ii) in some cases, e.g. the squad size GB inherited, were complete rubbish. He should have waited a day, maybe two, seen the mood of the fans, perhaps issued a well prepared statement on the boards and been prepared to answer questions then. I am sure neither he nor Martin Long run their businesses in such a manner. I am afraid they have lost some respect from me through this ill conceived chat which was Mr. Parish's knee jerk reaction to his earlier knee jerk reaction. Edited by james03 (02 Jan 2011 9.48am) While coming on here may have been a knee jerk reaction I think he made it clear that the sacking wasn't and he had been thinking for a while he had made a mistake with the original appointment. A few other posters had said they were troubled by this being a decision made on one game. I don't think thats the case at all. A decision is made in and instant of time - hopefully after pros and cons have been weighed up in advance - and once the decision is made it is best to put it into effect immediately. To find the reason why yesterday was the tipping point in the timing of the decision then In this case we need to defer to those fans who went to the game yesterday and saw a completely unacceptable performance with no fight at all in front of a passionate away support. Personally I am surprised that this happened yesterday and thought George Burley would get more time. But watching such a performance and being about to hand over a million quid (or whatever) to the person responsible to then spend when they have turned turned down opportunities in the past couple of months to strengthen our obvious weaknesses does seem very understandable.
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SloveniaDave Tirana, Albania 02 Jan 11 10.25am | |
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Quote james03 at 02 Jan 2011 10.19am
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Quote james03 at 02 Jan 2011 9.48am
Mr. Parish came onto the boards far too quickly in my opinion and he was trying to be 'one of the boys.' Now look through every answer he gave which either (i) gave no information we really did not have already and (ii) in some cases, e.g. the squad size GB inherited, were complete rubbish. He should have waited a day, maybe two, seen the mood of the fans, perhaps issued a well prepared statement on the boards and been prepared to answer questions then. I am sure neither he nor Martin Long run their businesses in such a manner. I am afraid they have lost some respect from me through this ill conceived chat which was Mr. Parish's knee jerk reaction to his earlier knee jerk reaction. Edited by james03 (02 Jan 2011 9.48am) While coming on here may have been a knee jerk reaction I think he made it clear that the sacking wasn't and he had been thinking for a while he had made a mistake with the original appointment. A few other posters had said they were troubled by this being a decision made on one game. I don't think thats the case at all. A decision is made in and instant of time - hopefully after pros and cons have been weighed up in advance - and once the decision is made it is best to put it into effect immediately. To find the reason why yesterday was the tipping point in the timing of the decision then In this case we need to defer to those fans who went to the game yesterday and saw a completely unacceptable performance with no fight at all in front of a passionate away support. Personally I am surprised that this happened yesterday and thought George Burley would get more time. But watching such a performance and being about to hand over a million quid (or whatever) to the person responsible to then spend when they have turned turned down opportunities in the past couple of months to strengthen our obvious weaknesses does seem very understandable.
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mileend East London 02 Jan 11 10.30am | |
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Quote SloveniaDave at 02 Jan 2011 10.25am
Quote james03 at 02 Jan 2011 10.19am
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Quote james03 at 02 Jan 2011 9.48am
Mr. Parish came onto the boards far too quickly in my opinion and he was trying to be 'one of the boys.' Now look through every answer he gave which either (i) gave no information we really did not have already and (ii) in some cases, e.g. the squad size GB inherited, were complete rubbish. He should have waited a day, maybe two, seen the mood of the fans, perhaps issued a well prepared statement on the boards and been prepared to answer questions then. I am sure neither he nor Martin Long run their businesses in such a manner. I am afraid they have lost some respect from me through this ill conceived chat which was Mr. Parish's knee jerk reaction to his earlier knee jerk reaction. Edited by james03 (02 Jan 2011 9.48am) While coming on here may have been a knee jerk reaction I think he made it clear that the sacking wasn't and he had been thinking for a while he had made a mistake with the original appointment. A few other posters had said they were troubled by this being a decision made on one game. I don't think thats the case at all. A decision is made in and instant of time - hopefully after pros and cons have been weighed up in advance - and once the decision is made it is best to put it into effect immediately. To find the reason why yesterday was the tipping point in the timing of the decision then In this case we need to defer to those fans who went to the game yesterday and saw a completely unacceptable performance with no fight at all in front of a passionate away support. Personally I am surprised that this happened yesterday and thought George Burley would get more time. But watching such a performance and being about to hand over a million quid (or whatever) to the person responsible to then spend when they have turned turned down opportunities in the past couple of months to strengthen our obvious weaknesses does seem very understandable.
I think that's right He was much clearer that he had doubts for sometime that he had made the right decision with the original appointment of George Burley
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Uphill Bedford 02 Jan 11 10.32am | |
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It does seem to me that the 'stability' that Mr Parish wanted wasn't given enough time to happen and I thought he had said about relegation 'if it happens, it happens' and we'd rebuild from there.
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Marc@Somerset Burnham-On-Sea Somerset 02 Jan 11 10.34am | |
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I rink it was very honest of Steve to come on and talk to fans. Also note one very important thing he said. He said something along the lines that GB was a good manager with a good record, but not right for the current situation at the club. Ie not the man to take us forward after administration. Steve accepts some responsibility for the appointmen, and did not say it was all GB wrong doing. Did SJ every take responsibility for wrong appointments?
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Jonnyg121 Tunbridge Wells 02 Jan 11 10.35am | |
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Quote james03 at 02 Jan 2011 10.20am
Quote james03 at 02 Jan 2011 10.19am
Quote mileend at 02 Jan 2011 10.13am
Quote james03 at 02 Jan 2011 9.48am
Mr. Parish came onto the boards far too quickly in my opinion and he was trying to be 'one of the boys.' Now look through every answer he gave which either (i) gave no information we really did not have already and (ii) in some cases, e.g. the squad size GB inherited, were complete rubbish. He should have waited a day, maybe two, seen the mood of the fans, perhaps issued a well prepared statement on the boards and been prepared to answer questions then. I am sure neither he nor Martin Long run their businesses in such a manner. I am afraid they have lost some respect from me through this ill conceived chat which was Mr. Parish's knee jerk reaction to his earlier knee jerk reaction. Edited by james03 (02 Jan 2011 9.48am) While coming on here may have been a knee jerk reaction I think he made it clear that the sacking wasn't and he had been thinking for a while he had made a mistake with the original appointment. A few other posters had said they were troubled by this being a decision made on one game. I don't think thats the case at all. A decision is made in and instant of time - hopefully after pros and cons have been weighed up in advance - and once the decision is made it is best to put it into effect immediately. To find the reason why yesterday was the tipping point in the timing of the decision then In this case we need to defer to those fans who went to the game yesterday and saw a completely unacceptable performance with no fight at all in front of a passionate away support. Personally I am surprised that this happened yesterday and thought George Burley would get more time. But watching such a performance and being about to hand over a million quid (or whatever) to the person responsible to then spend when they have turned turned down opportunities in the past couple of months to strengthen our obvious weaknesses does seem very understandable.
In my eyes, Parish and co have done the right thing.
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Horse in Stable One Kent 02 Jan 11 10.38am | |
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Quote lee_post_man at 02 Jan 2011 10.00am
...get to the game on Monday show your support show the lads on the pitch we care, buy your season ticket for next year and lets move on together. Yep, onwards and upwards!!! Must admit that I've got mixed feelings about Burley going now (...there were occasional glimmers of hope under his tenure but clearly, no consistency and match winning discipline within the team). Nevertheless, it is a bold decision and one that will determine where the club sits at the end of this season. I doubt we would have stayed in the Championship under Burley but of course there are no guarantees that anyone else can step in mid-season and reinvigorate the team.
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serial thriller The Promised Land 02 Jan 11 10.38am | |
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Quote BBS Lover at 01 Jan 2011 11.18pm
Steve, how o you feel about the name Steve for a new manager? Seriously though, right decision today, but I don't see why someone would sack the manager at this time without having someone lined up. Is that your thinking?
This sort of name shouldn't be allowed on a site of respectability! And for it's worth, there will always be people who agree and disagree when a chairman does something controversial like come on a fans forum hours after sacking the manager. For me, He is understandably vague on points, but also insightful on others, and I am pleased that I as a fan am in the know about the past. He has not answered many questions on the future of the club, probably because if he said 'x is the manager', or 'we will announce the manager in x amount of days', then went back on it, people would be in uproar. It is their job to arrange the future of this club as best as possible, so let them do that, and let's collectively turn a page on 2010 as a year for Palace, and focus on making 2011 as prosperous as it can be. Whoever the new gaffer is, get behind him and the team, and do our part to keep the club afloat in this division. After all, we our supporters, are we not? Edited by serial thriller (02 Jan 2011 10.38am)
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alaneagle1 Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 02 Jan 11 10.47am | |
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I was interested in Steves point about George only needing to replace 2 players. Crystal Palace
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Jan 11 11.00am | |
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Our chairman is a fan first and a somewhat reluctant football club chairman second. Since he became chairman he has tried to keep us in the loop and deserves enormous credit for that, and not the criticism some are giving him.
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Frickin Saweet South Cronx 02 Jan 11 11.06am | |
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Quote SW2Eagle at 02 Jan 2011 1.00am
Right. Sorry if this goes against the grain, but I'm really disappointed with the Q&A session tonight. I think Mr Parish was VERY selective as to which questions he answered, and I firmly believe that the session was more of a publicity stunt than a genuine attempt to keep the fans up to date and provide transparency. Syd posed some superb questions - ignored. Still there is no answer as to why it is acceptable for a board of directors to make such big decisions on one poor performance - and before anyone jumps in and talks about the season as a whole, Mr Parish himself said that the sacking would not necessarily have happened had the result/performance today have been different. My other huge concern is that, despite having it put to him time and again that Burley was working with a decimated squad - he pretty much laughed this off and made out that it was Burley's squad. I'm sorry, but Burley was appointed at a time when he had to strengthen immediately - and did the best he could do to repair a lot of damage in a short space of time. A few months is simply not enough time to build and shape a squad - especially with the transfer window system that is in place today. I also think we've had awful luck with injuries - another point that has been conveniently ignored. All in all, today has brought me back down to earth with a massive bang. CPFC2010 may well turn out to be better for our club than previous owners (not hard) but they are far from perfect and far from the honest, transparent bunch that they would have us believe. I am also no longer convinced that they are the shrewd and patient owners I thought them to be. A hugely disappointing day - only made worse by this sham of a Q and A session. Defeat, premature sacking and then this bollocks. It's not prime minister's question time though is it Victor Meldrew!? he can't answer everything because some of it is too sensitive and not professional to be pinned on a discussion board Edited by Frickin Saweet (02 Jan 2011 11.08am)
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