Ukraine will receive only 6 F-16 fighters by the end of spring 2024 instead of 45 aircraft that European countries such as Denmark, the Netherlands, Norway and Belgium promised to send it last year, The New York Times writes, citing sources.

I would suggest that's the different between talk and reality.

I realised the final reality on that back with Syria....unlike many people I remember what the western leaders said on Syria and then what actually happened.....that final nail was observing just how the media stopped talking about it...dropped it like a stone.

I was kind of insulted...but I guess it works on most people.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

The US Congress postponed consideration of the allocation of military assistance to Ukraine for another 3 weeks due to the need to resolve other issues and holidays.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Whilst I know the Republican controlled House is trying to link agreement on aid to Ukraine with their desire to change the approach on border security I see nothing new in the last day or so.

So where does the idea that they have paused consideration for 3 weeks come from? A link would enable verification of source reliability.

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Russia are said to be on the offensive this summer. Whether Ukraine receive 60 billion or not the results at the end of that Russian offensive will play a significant part in the inevitable negotiation.

My own personal view is that the war finishes in 2025 for a myriad of reasons.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Mar 2024 12.55am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Did anyone else read this warning by Poland’s PM, our old friend Donald Tusk?

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Putin of course denies it. Some, including here, believe him. Given his track record of complete untrustworthiness I don’t.

With the prospect of Putin’s buddy, Trump, giving him the keys to Kyiv next year, and threatening to dismantle NATO, this is a warning we must take seriously.

It might seem illogical that Putin would attempt further expansion but Putin’s logic is not ours.

Off the subject but can you think of a better reason to oppose Trump?

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There is always a war on the telly. Always was. Always will be.

Personally, I would be more concerned if we drop points to Nottingham forest or if one of my shirts gets a button loose.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford