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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Apr 23 1.36pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Time will tell on that. There may not ever be another census, and this kind of thing would depend on who was in power.

I understand yearly "snapshots" may be the future. What they contain being unknown.

Yes, and we all know why. So people like you can hide the truth.

You are the embodiment of what Orwell predicted

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 12 Apr 23 1.49pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

That is a tired, pathetic old argument.
The British population has been stable for thousands of years. It has changed in terms of numbers more in the last 70 years than at any time before.
Only the replacement of ancient Britons by so called Beaker people and the marginalisation of so called Celtic Britons by Northern European tribes can be remotely compared to today. They were to a degree both replacements of the existing population, but not complete ones.

Are you going to tell a Native American that he should stop whining about being wiped out by Europeans because his ancestors came from Asia?
Would you have told a Neanderthal that he should stop worrying about those Homo sapiens because replacement is just a 'White supremacist conspiracy'? He had a bigger brain than us, so he might have looked down his nose at you, just like I do.

It just isn't true. There has been a continual flow of people.

You probably consider yourself Anglo-Saxon, but they were all immigrants too.


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That you use the Neanderthals being wiped out by Homo Sapiens as your analogy says all that needs to be said. We are all Homo Sapiens! Our DNA is 99.9% identical wherever we come from, or what our skin colour might be.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Apr 23 2.22pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It just isn't true. There has been a continual flow of people.

You probably consider yourself Anglo-Saxon, but they were all immigrants too.


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That you use the Neanderthals being wiped out by Homo Sapiens as your analogy says all that needs to be said. We are all Homo Sapiens! Our DNA is 99.9% identical wherever we come from, or what our skin colour might be.

It is absolutely true. The existing population absorbed relatively large numbers of people in the past which heavily impacted on their makeup and way of life. The precise details are unknown but the genetic studies tell of huge change but not total replacement.

You do not grasp simple concepts. That is me being as polite as I can when dealing with such wilful stupidity.

I am mostly English/North Western European. Over 70%. My genes say so. I also have genes from Scotland and Scandinavia, Germanic Europe and Wales in much smaller amounts. That is because, like most other people in England, my heritage is mostly from people that have been here for hundreds if not thousands of years.
That is only possible because of little change in the gene pool over many generations.

Compare that to a change of 25% in demographics in one lifetime, when the population is far bigger than at any time in the past.

Are you getting it yet?

Neanderthals are gone, all but for a few percent of their genetic leftovers. That happened became their lands were invaded by humans in relatively large numbers. There was a tipping point where they were simply outbred.
That is where we are heading sooner than you think.

Not that you think very much.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (12 Apr 2023 4.07pm)

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 12 Apr 23 3.25pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It is absolutely true. The existing population absorbed relatively large numbers of people in the past which heavily impacted on their makeup and way of life. The precise details are unknown but the genetic studies tell of huge change but not total replacement.

You do not grasp simple concepts. That is me being as polite as I can when dealing with such wilful stupidity.

I am mostly English/North Western European. Over 70%. My genes say so. I also have genes from Scotland and Scandinavia, Germanic Europe and Wales in much smaller amounts. That is because, like most other people in England, my heritage is mostly from people that have been here for hundreds if not thousands of years.
That is only possible because of little change in the gene pool over many generations.

Compare that to a change of 25% in demographics in one lifetime, when the population is far bigger than at any time in the past.

Are you getting it yet?

Neanderthals are gone, all but for a few percent of their genetic leftovers. That happened became their lands were invaded by humans in relatively large numbers. There was a tipping point where they were simply outbread.
That is where we are heading sooner than you think.

Not that you think very much.

I guess they didn't have any dough

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Apr 23 4.06pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I guess they didn't have any dough

What? The Saps made more bread.

You must have heard of Hovis man.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (12 Apr 2023 4.09pm)

 

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mezzer Flag Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 12 Apr 23 4.30pm Send a Private Message to mezzer Add mezzer as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

What? The Saps made more bread.

You must have heard of Hovis man.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (12 Apr 2023 4.09pm)

Did Hovis man pre-date Neanderthal man?

They're all brown bread now anyway.

 


Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 12 Apr 23 4.49pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I would have to do some research to substantiate my impressions, which are based on my own knowledge of the situation in our local hospitals.

I am aware of some Eastern Europeans who have stayed under the special scheme we set up, but no new arrivals at all, whilst huge numbers from Africa and Asia are being recruited.

You appear to be only talking about the NHS

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 12 Apr 23 4.51pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

We have been round this circle before. In support of the idea that "black lives matter" and not the political group BLM. Which would have been much better expressed by "all lives matter".

But the left and some posters on here, would not accept the “all lives matter” mantra. At the outset there was only one BLM

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 12 Apr 23 10.20pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It is absolutely true. The existing population absorbed relatively large numbers of people in the past which heavily impacted on their makeup and way of life. The precise details are unknown but the genetic studies tell of huge change but not total replacement.

You do not grasp simple concepts. That is me being as polite as I can when dealing with such wilful stupidity.

I am mostly English/North Western European. Over 70%. My genes say so. I also have genes from Scotland and Scandinavia, Germanic Europe and Wales in much smaller amounts. That is because, like most other people in England, my heritage is mostly from people that have been here for hundreds if not thousands of years.
That is only possible because of little change in the gene pool over many generations.

Compare that to a change of 25% in demographics in one lifetime, when the population is far bigger than at any time in the past.

Are you getting it yet?

Neanderthals are gone, all but for a few percent of their genetic leftovers. That happened became their lands were invaded by humans in relatively large numbers. There was a tipping point where they were simply outbred.
That is where we are heading sooner than you think.

Not that you think very much.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (12 Apr 2023 4.07pm)

You say one thing, then prove another! It cannot be true if you base, as you do, your theory on the nonsensical concept of "total replacement". You now accept huge change. All we are witnessing today is what is happening in every aspect of life. Everything is going faster. Including people becoming absorbed into their new environments, We won't be "replaced". We will be changed as we absorb the new. Just as we always have been.

So what if the gene pool is now deeper and wider! That's only because the world is smaller and travel easier. We all come from the same pool. Every European could ultimately trace their origins back to Africa. We are all the same. The demographics of the new arrivals may well have been different on arrival, they are generally younger for example, but they will even out over time as they get absorbed. You appear to think everything is set in stone, but if that wasn't true in the past, why on earth will it be now?

Neanderthals were not our ancestors. They were a completely different branch of the human family, a subspecies. To compare what happened to them, to what you expect will happen to us, is a ridiculous insult to all modern humans. They weren't "outbred". They died out, but exactly why, whether by inter-breeding, disease or war, isn't known.

I hope you are beginning to "get it", but somehow I doubt it.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 12 Apr 23 10.25pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

You appear to be only talking about the NHS

It's a huge employer of immigrant workers, who they refer to as "international" doctors and nurses.

So it's a relevant example.

It's also where I have some direct personal knowledge.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You say one thing, then prove another! It cannot be true if you base, as you do, your theory on the nonsensical concept of "total replacement". You now accept huge change. All we are witnessing today is what is happening in every aspect of life. Everything is going faster. Including people becoming absorbed into their new environments, We won't be "replaced". We will be changed as we absorb the new. Just as we always have been.

So what if the gene pool is now deeper and wider! That's only because the world is smaller and travel easier. We all come from the same pool. Every European could ultimately trace their origins back to Africa. We are all the same. The demographics of the new arrivals may well have been different on arrival, they are generally younger for example, but they will even out over time as they get absorbed. You appear to think everything is set in stone, but if that wasn't true in the past, why on earth will it be now?

Neanderthals were not our ancestors. They were a completely different branch of the human family, a subspecies. To compare what happened to them, to what you expect will happen to us, is a ridiculous insult to all modern humans. They weren't "outbred". They died out, but exactly why, whether by inter-breeding, disease or war, isn't known.

I hope you are beginning to "get it", but somehow I doubt it.

But instead of absorbing "the new" London and Birmingham have been absorbed by it.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 12 Apr 23 10.34pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

But the left and some posters on here, would not accept the “all lives matter” mantra. At the outset there was only one BLM

I am not sure if that's true, but if it was, it was quickly clarified.

I don't anyone was really supporting a political movement when they "took the knee". It was just showing solidarity with those they believed were being treated unfairly.

 


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