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georgenorman 12 Apr 23 11.32am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I'm just trying to be constructive.
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Teddy Eagle 12 Apr 23 11.38am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The point actually was the use of "white" and not "indigenous"! We can discuss the implications of the latter, as that is a reasonable debate but not the former, in my opinion. Where did those people come from? From their parents, just as we did, and just as their parents also did. What does "indigenous" mean? All of us have a mix of DNA which indicates a heritage that isn't truly indigenous. So where's the cut off? It's all a question of time. New arrivals won't be new arrivals forever. Communities arrive, remain isolated and suspect for a while, then blended and accepted. You don't need me to give examples. Visit most surgeries or hospitals and the evidence is in your face. Once again White is the definition used in the census which is the only data source available. If you have another set of figures then let's see them.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Apr 23 11.48am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You can argue with me all you like, but you can't argue with statistical facts. I'm still waiting for you to explain why only 74.4% of the population now describe themselves as White British after a period of around 70 years of significant immigration. One lifetime. Only 43.4% in our own capital. That is a quarter of the population who came from somewhere else in one lifetime. Immigration has been the driving force behind population increase since the nineties. The existing population consists largely of people who are beyond child rearing age. It is immigrants who are boosting the birth rate above negative. It doesn't take an expert to see how this will play out. No one wants to talk about it because deniers of truth like you would try to tarnish their reputations, as you regularly attempt on here. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (12 Apr 2023 11.06am) That is white supremacist speak! That we have had more immigration in my lifetime than in my parent's is due to need. It hasn't happened by accident. That our new citizens may not have the same skin colour as ourselves is an irrelevance. What matters is how they behave. Looking at the raw data and drawing a mathematical conclusion from it is senseless. Raw data is for statisticians. It needs interpretation. Many of those immigrants, and their offspring are now very proud Brits, valuing and contributing to British culture and our economy. Who is your doctor? Who runs your local shop? Who would do either if they didn't? We have failed with some communities to convince them to fully commit to the British way of life, so we need to redouble our efforts. Not give up, or moan on a football forum. You think you know how this will play out because you have had your bias confirmed by reading the "Great Replacement Theory". Which is bs!
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Apr 23 11.50am | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
I'm just trying to be constructive. Doesn't support a wet sand castle!
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Apr 23 11.59am | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Once again White is the definition used in the census which is the only data source available. If you have another set of figures then let's see them. That it is the only source available doesn't mean it's an appropriate one in the context. I hope it is removed from the next census if it is being used in this way by those eager to try to prove things it doesn't. I fail to see what difference a theoretically finite number would make. There can never be such a number.
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georgenorman 12 Apr 23 12.05pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Doesn't support a wet sand castle! Surely sign posts to the Peak District in Mecca would be a great benefit. Infidels are banned from Mecca, so the signs would just target Muslims, who we are so keen to attract to hiking in the Lake District and into the racist countrywide in general. We could also advertise the fact that prayer mats are being provided on these hiking routes.
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Teddy Eagle 12 Apr 23 12.20pm | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Surely sign posts to the Peak District in Mecca would be a great benefit. Infidels are banned from Mecca, so the signs would just target Muslims, who we are so keen to attract to hiking in the Lake District and into the racist countrywide in general. We could also advertise the fact that prayer mats are being provided on these hiking routes. And aren't wet sandcastles more structurally sound? That's from memory. I gave up building them when I was fifty.
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Teddy Eagle 12 Apr 23 12.25pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That it is the only source available doesn't mean it's an appropriate one in the context. I hope it is removed from the next census if it is being used in this way by those eager to try to prove things it doesn't. I fail to see what difference a theoretically finite number would make. There can never be such a number. It won't be removed.
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Hrolf The Ganger 12 Apr 23 12.58pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That is white supremacist speak! That we have had more immigration in my lifetime than in my parent's is due to need. It hasn't happened by accident. That our new citizens may not have the same skin colour as ourselves is an irrelevance. What matters is how they behave. Looking at the raw data and drawing a mathematical conclusion from it is senseless. Raw data is for statisticians. It needs interpretation. Many of those immigrants, and their offspring are now very proud Brits, valuing and contributing to British culture and our economy. Who is your doctor? Who runs your local shop? Who would do either if they didn't? We have failed with some communities to convince them to fully commit to the British way of life, so we need to redouble our efforts. Not give up, or moan on a football forum. You think you know how this will play out because you have had your bias confirmed by reading the "Great Replacement Theory". Which is bs! You fail to understand, deliberately or otherwise, on every level. We are talking about the genetic replacement of one group of people by other groups. You have failed to contradict the obvious demographic trend with any counter evidence, albeit there isn't any, and have resorted to mud slinging and irrelevant waffle.
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 12 Apr 23 1.09pm | |
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Jam tomorrow. Jam Tomorrow. when are you people going to wake up ? There's no way Paul Weller is re-forming the group. He said so in Smash Hits, around 1985
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Hrolf The Ganger 12 Apr 23 1.14pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The point actually was the use of "white" and not "indigenous"! We can discuss the implications of the latter, as that is a reasonable debate but not the former, in my opinion. Where did those people come from? From their parents, just as we did, and just as their parents also did. What does "indigenous" mean? All of us have a mix of DNA which indicates a heritage that isn't truly indigenous. So where's the cut off? It's all a question of time. New arrivals won't be new arrivals forever. Communities arrive, remain isolated and suspect for a while, then blended and accepted. You don't need me to give examples. Visit most surgeries or hospitals and the evidence is in your face. That is a tired, pathetic old argument. Are you going to tell a Native American that he should stop whining about being wiped out by Europeans because his ancestors came from Asia?
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Apr 23 1.33pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
It won't be removed. Time will tell on that. There may not ever be another census, and this kind of thing would depend on who was in power. I understand yearly "snapshots" may be the future. What they contain being unknown.
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