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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 25 Nov 16 1.13pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Luckily, Tory governments don't.

The Social Charter?

We had one chance to leave the EU, in a lifetime. We have elections every four or five years. I'm not going to vote in a referendum, based on the government that's currently in power.

One step at a time. The EU aren't a restraint on the Conservative government, any more than they were on the last Labour government.

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 25 Nov 16 1.22pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

We had one chance to leave the EU, in a lifetime. We have elections every four or five years. I'm not going to vote in a referendum, based on the government that's currently in power.

One step at a time. The EU aren't a restraint on the Conservative government, any more than they were on the last Labour government.


The Tories will have been in power for 28 of the last 41 years by 2020 and Labour are not going to win the next election so make that going to be 32 out of the previous 45 by 2024.

It would have been entirely reasonable to vote on the premise that the Tories/right-wing will hold power and policy for the next decade pre- during and after Brexit.

No way would I trust that lot to look out for the poorer members of society and no chance would I trust then not to unravel some safeguards enacted through the Social Charter disguised as 'helping the needy'


 


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Stuk Flag Top half 25 Nov 16 1.29pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8


The Tories will have been in power for 28 of the last 41 years by 2020 and Labour are not going to win the next election so make that going to be 32 out of the previous 45 by 2024.

It would have been entirely reasonable to vote on the premise that the Tories/right-wing will hold power and policy for the next decade pre- during and after Brexit.

No way would I trust that lot to look out for the poorer members of society and no chance would I trust then not to unravel some safeguards enacted through the Social Charter disguised as 'helping the needy'


As I've informed you before. We have only had a conservative government for one and a half years since 1997.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Nov 16 1.32pm

Originally posted by Stuk

As I've informed you before. We have only had a conservative government for one and a half years since 1997.

And haven't they done well...

 

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Stuk Flag Top half 25 Nov 16 1.40pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

And haven't they done well...

Very. They gave us the referendum that we should have had 20 years ago.

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 25 Nov 16 1.45pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

As I've informed you before. We have only had a conservative government for one and a half years since 1997.

A coalition gov is power-sharing is it not? Dominated by a massive majority of Tory MPs too.

Sounds like they were in power to me The Conservatives.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Nov 16 1.50pm

Originally posted by Stuk

Very. They gave us the referendum that we should have had 20 years ago.

Back to the thread topic, other than being able to prise ourselves away from the corporate behemoth that is the EU, what are the benefits of leaving?

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 25 Nov 16 2.00pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

I think that taxes will have to rise given brexit and the massive public debt the country has.

For brexit it would be fair for the brexiteers to pay for it through a brexit tax collected by HMRC but not by remain voters as that would be taxation without representation.

The brexiteers are enjoying the damage they are causing and its fair IMO that they should pay for it all.

 

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susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 25 Nov 16 2.11pm Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

I think that taxes will have to rise given brexit and the massive public debt the country has.

For brexit it would be fair for the brexiteers to pay for it through a brexit tax collected by HMRC but not by remain voters as that would be taxation without representation.

The brexiteers are enjoying the damage they are causing and its fair IMO that they should pay for it all.

I will say it again...Do you live on another planet??? Some of the rubbish you come out with is absolute diarrhea and where you get these stupid ideas is beyond me it really is!

 


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Stuk Flag Top half 25 Nov 16 2.23pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

A coalition gov is power-sharing is it not? Dominated by a massive majority of Tory MPs too.

Sounds like they were in power to me The Conservatives.

Because it suits your argument to go way back to a now irrelevant period in time and to discount a coalition government completely.

 


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Stuk Flag Top half 25 Nov 16 2.26pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Back to the thread topic, other than being able to prise ourselves away from the corporate behemoth that is the EU, what are the benefits of leaving?

Not as great as they would have been if we'd done it twenty years ago, but there will be plenty if arseholes stop trying to circumvent the democratic vote and we can ever carry it out.

 


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matt_himself Flag Matataland 25 Nov 16 2.52pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8


The Tories will have been in power for 28 of the last 41 years by 2020 and Labour are not going to win the next election so make that going to be 32 out of the previous 45 by 2024.

It would have been entirely reasonable to vote on the premise that the Tories/right-wing will hold power and policy for the next decade pre- during and after Brexit.

No way would I trust that lot to look out for the poorer members of society and no chance would I trust then not to unravel some safeguards enacted through the Social Charter disguised as 'helping the needy'


So, you are going to stick to being a property developer, being compliant in the forcing of the price of property well above the average income of the working man, and blaming the Tories for it in a futile attempt to have a clean conscience?

#kermitnomics

 


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