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cryrst The garden of England 19 Nov 20 8.45am | |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
There are right wing Jews, there are left wing Jews. Don't see why that idea us so controversial? On the right are the board of deputies, on the left Jewish voices for Labour. On the far left Jewdas, on the far right the Israeli government.
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jeeagles 19 Nov 20 10.41am | |
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Originally posted by Matov
And lets be honest, when he was a back bench MP he ignored the Whips office on a regular basis. Issue for Starmer is this. Is Corbyn content to be a very, very quiet independent MP or a very, very, loud one? Either way he represents a constant thorn in Starmers side now. From what I can make out Starmer would have known the suspension was being lifted, with all expecations of Corbyn once again sitting as a Labour MP. But then he saw the early media reaction and essentially went into a panic and created this s*** storm. Starmer is going to give Corbyn enough rope to hang himself. Again. Corbyn's "clarification" of his racism is a weak excuse. Effectively, what he is still saying is that most members of the Labour Party aren't anti-sematic. It still is not a reason for the party of have systematically ignored racism whilst he was leader. The demonization of Jewish people based on lazy stereotypes is as prevalent as ever. He still hasn't accepted that after multiple defeats at the polls that he's politically toxic. He should have stood down after the EU referendum, but like any despot he's still clinging to power in the Labour party. Corbyn will still kick up a fuss as an independent MP as stupid loudmouth racists always do. Starmer, and the more sensible members of the Labour Party realise they've got to get rip the momentum movement out of the party from the roots. There's not place in the party for the likes of Corbyn, Livingston, Galloway, Long-Bailey, or Abbot, unless you want a Tory government.
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Badger11 Beckenham 19 Nov 20 11.16am | |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Starmer is going to give Corbyn enough rope to hang himself. Again. Corbyn's "clarification" of his racism is a weak excuse. Effectively, what he is still saying is that most members of the Labour Party aren't anti-sematic. It still is not a reason for the party of have systematically ignored racism whilst he was leader. The demonization of Jewish people based on lazy stereotypes is as prevalent as ever. He still hasn't accepted that after multiple defeats at the polls that he's politically toxic. He should have stood down after the EU referendum, but like any despot he's still clinging to power in the Labour party. Corbyn will still kick up a fuss as an independent MP as stupid loudmouth racists always do. Starmer, and the more sensible members of the Labour Party realise they've got to get rip the momentum movement out of the party from the roots. There's not place in the party for the likes of Corbyn, Livingston, Galloway, Long-Bailey, or Abbot, unless you want a Tory government. Oy stop giving away our secrets, agents Corbyn and Abbot are doing a fine job.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Nov 20 11.26am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Oy stop giving away our secrets, agents Corbyn and Abbot are doing a fine job. In the continuing drive for 'Diversity' etc etc, Diane Abbott is to be the new mathematics guru on 'Countdown'. Edited by Willo (19 Nov 2020 11.27am)
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 Nov 20 12.24pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
In the continuing drive for 'Diversity' etc etc, Diane Abbott is to be the new mathematics guru on 'Countdown'. Edited by Willo (19 Nov 2020 11.27am) Would that be a victory after leftie lunatics attacking the lovely Rachel Riley on social media with their usual anti Semitic stuff?
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Nov 20 12.31pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Would that be a victory after leftie lunatics attacking the lovely Rachel Riley on social media with their usual anti Semitic stuff? A substantial number of 'Lefties' spew their hate-filled bile on social media with their targets on the end of unrelenting invective.Gargantuan hogwash.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 19 Nov 20 5.15pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
In the continuing drive for 'Diversity' etc etc, Diane Abbott is to be the new mathematics guru on 'Countdown'. Edited by Willo (19 Nov 2020 11.27am) And she'll be a right looker too. Brains and beauty - who could ask for more?
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 19 Nov 20 5.43pm | |
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Ironically, JC is probably the only uncorruptable mp in the house, and as we already have a socialist pm already leading the country, I wouldn"t mind seeing Jeremy taking on Sir Keir as although he looks the part, he didn"t help JC when he was leading the party. I can"t see much difference between the green/liberal CONservatives and the labour party, especially now smokin Joe"s going to be head of the free world and will keep boris under "anners" regarding the Irish issue!
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 19 Nov 20 5.52pm | |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Ironically, JC is probably the only uncorruptable mp in the house, and as we already have a socialist pm already leading the country, I wouldn"t mind seeing Jeremy taking on Sir Keir as although he looks the part, he didn"t help JC when he was leading the party. I can"t see much difference between the green/liberal CONservatives and the labour party, especially now smokin Joe"s going to be head of the free world and will keep boris under "anners" regarding the Irish issue! Or even keep boris under "manners"!
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HKOwen Hong Kong 20 Nov 20 12.16am | |
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So you are specifically singling out a group of Jews. Would you do the same with BAME, Catholics, LBGT etc You don't seem to get this is the kind of racism the EHRC report is supposed to help eliminate. Originally posted by serial thriller
There are right wing Jews, there are left wing Jews. Don't see why that idea us so controversial? On the right are the board of deputies, on the left Jewish voices for Labour. On the far left Jewdas, on the far right the Israeli government. Edited by HKOwen (20 Nov 2020 12.22am)
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
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HKOwen Hong Kong 20 Nov 20 12.21am | |
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I just realised you are serious. Presumably you don't see any problem with JC's anti-semitism ( no point listing here the various other things that he has done to alienate people ) You would like to see JC being leader of the Opposition again? Everyone entitled to their opinion. Moving on let's put a few past Burnley. Originally posted by croydon proud
Ironically, JC is probably the only uncorruptable mp in the house, and as we already have a socialist pm already leading the country, I wouldn"t mind seeing Jeremy taking on Sir Keir as although he looks the part, he didn"t help JC when he was leading the party. I can"t see much difference between the green/liberal CONservatives and the labour party, especially now smokin Joe"s going to be head of the free world and will keep boris under "anners" regarding the Irish issue!
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
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HKOwen Hong Kong 20 Nov 20 12.27am | |
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I agree with this but hope that the ridiculous idealogical wedge being driven into the Labour party is hammered home. At the end of the day racists blowhards like Williamson and Burgon will never do anything ( like form a new party ) that will pull their heads out of the Westminster trough at the next GE or even risk recall. Corbyn's constituents happy enough to be represented by a racist anti semite. Thornberry doesn't care as long as the money comes in and there's plenty of cake Originally posted by jeeagles
Starmer is going to give Corbyn enough rope to hang himself. Again. Corbyn's "clarification" of his racism is a weak excuse. Effectively, what he is still saying is that most members of the Labour Party aren't anti-sematic. It still is not a reason for the party of have systematically ignored racism whilst he was leader. The demonization of Jewish people based on lazy stereotypes is as prevalent as ever. He still hasn't accepted that after multiple defeats at the polls that he's politically toxic. He should have stood down after the EU referendum, but like any despot he's still clinging to power in the Labour party. Corbyn will still kick up a fuss as an independent MP as stupid loudmouth racists always do. Starmer, and the more sensible members of the Labour Party realise they've got to get rip the momentum movement out of the party from the roots. There's not place in the party for the likes of Corbyn, Livingston, Galloway, Long-Bailey, or Abbot, unless you want a Tory government.
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
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