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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Apr 23 10.43pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Haven't we been here before? 1. There is no problem. 2. There is a problem but it's too late to do anything about it. 3. There's no point complaining. Solve this problem. Perhaps but it doesn't change anything. Complaining won't achieve anything. Only actions will, and it's never too late to start. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 11 Apr 23 10.43pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Haven't we been here before?

1. There is no problem.
2. There is a problem but it's too late to do anything about it.
3. There's no point complaining. Solve this problem.

Perhaps but it doesn't change anything.

Complaining won't achieve anything. Only actions will, and it's never too late to start.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Apr 23 10.52pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Because that's the definition used in the census. Why is it included in a census? I would suggest for no more reason than to track trends on things like housing and birthrate. It certainly isn't to encourage discriminatory attitudes. It ought not be a consideration in determining who is British as it has the potential to divide us. I have long thought it to be a serious mistake that produces more problems than could ever provide useful data. I refuse to answer the question. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (11 Apr 2023 11.00pm) For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 11 Apr 23 10.52pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Because that's the definition used in the census.

Why is it included in a census?

I would suggest for no more reason than to track trends on things like housing and birthrate.

It certainly isn't to encourage discriminatory attitudes. It ought not be a consideration in determining who is British as it has the potential to divide us.

I have long thought it to be a serious mistake that produces more problems than could ever provide useful data. I refuse to answer the question.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (11 Apr 2023 11.00pm)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Apr 23 10.57pm
Originally posted by Spiderman But initially it was in support of BLM. I didn’t see/hear people taking the knee in support of any other group We have been round this circle before. In support of the idea that "black lives matter" and not the political group BLM. Which would have been much better expressed by "all lives matter". For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 11 Apr 23 10.57pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

But initially it was in support of BLM. I didn’t see/hear people taking the knee in support of any other group

We have been round this circle before. In support of the idea that "black lives matter" and not the political group BLM. Which would have been much better expressed by "all lives matter".

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Teddy Eagle 11 Apr 23 10.58pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Why is it included in a census? I would suggest for no more reason to track trends on housing and birthrate. It certainly isn't to encourage discriminatory attitudes. It ought not be a consideration in determining who is British as it has the potential to divide us. I have long thought it to be a serious mistake that produces more problems than provides useful data. I refuse to answer the question. I assume in order to keep track of demographic trends. Either that or the census bureau is a hotbed of right wing extremism.
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Teddy Eagle

11 Apr 23 10.58pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Why is it included in a census?

I would suggest for no more reason to track trends on housing and birthrate.

It certainly isn't to encourage discriminatory attitudes. It ought not be a consideration in determining who is British as it has the potential to divide us.

I have long thought it to be a serious mistake that produces more problems than provides useful data. I refuse to answer the question.

I assume in order to keep track of demographic trends. Either that or the census bureau is a hotbed of right wing extremism.

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Teddy Eagle 11 Apr 23 11.01pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Perhaps but it doesn't change anything. Complaining won't achieve anything. Only actions will, and it's never too late to start. But it's always too early while others are denying there's a problem.
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Teddy Eagle

11 Apr 23 11.01pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Perhaps but it doesn't change anything.

Complaining won't achieve anything. Only actions will, and it's never too late to start.

But it's always too early while others are denying there's a problem.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Apr 23 11.14pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle I assume in order to keep track of demographic trends. Either that or the census bureau is a hotbed of right wing extremism. For government statisticians, perhaps. From memory there are a number of choices there. We aren't government statisticians and ought not be using it. I think that it is completely unconnected with how we should regard people. If people are British then they are British, whether acquired or not, and certainly irrespective of their skin colour. We need to maximise similarities and not emphasise differences. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 11 Apr 23 11.14pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

I assume in order to keep track of demographic trends. Either that or the census bureau is a hotbed of right wing extremism.

For government statisticians, perhaps. From memory there are a number of choices there. We aren't government statisticians and ought not be using it.

I think that it is completely unconnected with how we should regard people. If people are British then they are British, whether acquired or not, and certainly irrespective of their skin colour. We need to maximise similarities and not emphasise differences.

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Teddy Eagle 11 Apr 23 11.32pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle For government statisticians, perhaps. From memory there are a number of choices there. We aren't government statisticians and ought not be using it. I think that it is completely unconnected with how we should regard people. If people are British then they are British, whether acquired or not, and certainly irrespective of their skin colour. We need to maximise similarities and not emphasise differences. Well that's not going to happen so there's no point complaining about it.
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Teddy Eagle

11 Apr 23 11.32pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

For government statisticians, perhaps. From memory there are a number of choices there. We aren't government statisticians and ought not be using it.

Well that's not going to happen so there's no point complaining about it.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Apr 23 9.14am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle But it's always too early while others are denying there's a problem. There is enough we can all agree is a problem, even if we don't about the solution. Restraining the tide of illegals is the most obvious. The actual solution isn't. There are others though. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 12 Apr 23 9.14am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

But it's always too early while others are denying there's a problem.

There is enough we can all agree is a problem, even if we don't about the solution.

Restraining the tide of illegals is the most obvious. The actual solution isn't.

There are others though.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Apr 23 9.19am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Well that's not going to happen so there's no point complaining about it. It will happen! The question is not if, but when. I am not complaining. I am doing something. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 12 Apr 23 9.19am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Well that's not going to happen so there's no point complaining about it.

It will happen! The question is not if, but when.

I am not complaining. I am doing something.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Apr 23 9.48am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Yes. Unless the last census was wrong. By this logic anyone moving to China be Chinese in five years. I don't know what the Chinese immigration laws produce in terms of legal status. I only know that those on the 5-year route can become British in the UK. Whether they (or you), regard themselves as English, Welsh, Scottish or any other personal identification label is irrelevant. They are now British. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 12 Apr 23 9.48am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Yes. Unless the last census was wrong.
By this logic anyone moving to China be Chinese in five years.

I don't know what the Chinese immigration laws produce in terms of legal status. I only know that those on the 5-year route can become British in the UK. Whether they (or you), regard themselves as English, Welsh, Scottish or any other personal identification label is irrelevant. They are now British.

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georgenorman 12 Apr 23 9.54am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle For government statisticians, perhaps. From memory there are a number of choices there. We aren't government statisticians and ought not be using it. I think that it is completely unconnected with how we should regard people. If people are British then they are British, whether acquired or not, and certainly irrespective of their skin colour. We need to maximise similarities and not emphasise differences. Your attitude is one reason people want to come here - because of your virtues. Then some of those who come here start to abuse those virtues, insult you and complain because your country does not sufficiently resemble the country that they left. You then concede on point after point - like the signs pointing in the direction of Mecca that have been put up on Peak District hiking routes because the countryside is considered 'racist' and they want to encourage Muslim hikers (look out for overly large backpacks).
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georgenorman

12 Apr 23 9.54am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

For government statisticians, perhaps. From memory there are a number of choices there. We aren't government statisticians and ought not be using it.

Your attitude is one reason people want to come here - because of your virtues. Then some of those who come here start to abuse those virtues, insult you and complain because your country does not sufficiently resemble the country that they left. You then concede on point after point - like the signs pointing in the direction of Mecca that have been put up on Peak District hiking routes because the countryside is considered 'racist' and they want to encourage Muslim hikers (look out for overly large backpacks).

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Hrolf The Ganger 12 Apr 23 9.58am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle For government statisticians, perhaps. From memory there are a number of choices there. We aren't government statisticians and ought not be using it. I think that it is completely unconnected with how we should regard people. If people are British then they are British, whether acquired or not, and certainly irrespective of their skin colour. We need to maximise similarities and not emphasise differences. Parody alert. Why exactly? Are you scared that definitions will expose the real truth of what is happening to this population? Of course you are. The only conclusion I can draw after looking at all the evidence is that anyone dismissing an obvious trend with an obvious outcome as a White supremacist conspiracy must be clinically bonkers.
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12 Apr 23 9.58am

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

For government statisticians, perhaps. From memory there are a number of choices there. We aren't government statisticians and ought not be using it.

Parody alert.

Why exactly? Are you scared that definitions will expose the real truth of what is happening to this population?

Of course you are.

The only conclusion I can draw after looking at all the evidence is that anyone dismissing an obvious trend with an obvious outcome as a White supremacist conspiracy must be clinically bonkers.

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