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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 11 Apr 23 5.21pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Longer living people increases a population which is then more dependent on support. Declining birthrates mean less working age people. The consequences are immigration from countries who have more people. It's not difficult to understand, and it's an inevitability of today's world.

Mass for me would be more than we either need or can handle.

Questioning immigration is fine. We can have a reasoned debate about that. Introducing what the skin colour is and suggesting white skinned people from Europe are acceptable, whilst darker skinned people from elsewhere are not, is what isn't OK.


Where did people introduce skin colour? Illegal immigration includes black, Chinese, Vietnamese, Albanians ......so many colours//maybe you can reference the actual post that introduced colour into the argument, because I cant see it?


Edited by the silurian (11 Apr 2023 5.23pm)

 

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 11 Apr 23 5.23pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

The UK is set to be one of the worst performing major economies in the world this year, according to the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

It says the UK economy's performance in 2023 will be the worst among the 20 biggest economies, known as the G20, which includes sanctions-hit Russia. (BBC website 11.4.23)

Covid,...errr Ukraine,....errr. I think this is all owned by the Government well done people.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (11 Apr 2023 5.30pm)

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 11 Apr 23 5.24pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Longer living people increases a population which is then more dependent on support. Declining birthrates mean less working age people. The consequences are immigration from countries who have more people. It's not difficult to understand, and it's an inevitability of today's world.

Mass for me would be more than we either need or can handle.

Questioning immigration is fine. We can have a reasoned debate about that. Introducing what the skin colour is and suggesting white skinned people from Europe are acceptable, whilst darker skinned people from elsewhere are not, is what isn't OK.

Who introduced skin colour into it?

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 11 Apr 23 5.24pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Questioning immigration is fine. We can have a reasoned debate about that. Introducing what the skin colour is and suggesting white skinned people from Europe are acceptable, whilst darker skinned people from elsewhere are not, is what isn't OK.

Yet an immutable Remainer doctrine is that all the nasty people that voted Leave did not want uncontrollable immigration from the EU - the vast majority of EU immigrants of course being white.

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 11 Apr 23 6.42pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

The UK is set to be one of the worst performing major economies in the world this year, according to the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

It says the UK economy's performance in 2023 will be the worst among the 20 biggest economies, known as the G20, which includes sanctions-hit Russia. (BBC website 11.4.23)

Covid,...errr Ukraine,....errr. I think this is all owned by the Government well done people.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (11 Apr 2023 5.30pm)

But according to the IMF we should be in a deep recession now and for 6 months at least ! I wouldn’t put a lot of sway on what they report tbh.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 11 Apr 23 7.19pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Longer living people increases a population which is then more dependent on support. Declining birthrates mean less working age people. The consequences are immigration from countries who have more people. It's not difficult to understand, and it's an inevitability of today's world.

Mass for me would be more than we either need or can handle.

Questioning immigration is fine. We can have a reasoned debate about that. Introducing what the skin colour is and suggesting white skinned people from Europe are acceptable, whilst darker skinned people from elsewhere are not, is what isn't OK.


I don't think that mass immigration of people of any colour is a solution to anything.
You are simply parroting a flawed formula.
With every wave of migrants comes net increased population size and a need for more infrastructure to support it. They have more children in the first generation which would be good for taxation and filling menial jobs if they all paid tax, which many don't, and want to fill necessary job vacancies, which many don't. The downside is that start having less children in the subsequent generations and get old too.
The upshot is that you have to keep having new waves of immigrants to maintain the birth rate which will mean that the culture and genetic and historical heritage of this country will evaporate to be replaced by pseudo history with none of our descendants here to benefit from thousands of years of toil and advancement by their ancestors.

The only real solution is to encourage people here already to have more children, instead of disincentivising them at every turn. Then in one generation we will have more young people and no more supposed need for immigrants.

Why am I telling you this? You couldn't care less about overpopulation or the future of indigenous British people.

If you want to talk about race. Just look around at almost unrecognisable, divided, over sensitive, violent, crime ridden cauldron of racial tension Britain has now become because of mass immigration.

Do you remember the good old days when we didn't have to worry about all this crap? Perhaps in Cornwall it's still 1950.

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 11 Apr 23 9.04pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Haven't we been here before?

1. There is no problem.
2. There is a problem but it's too late to do anything about it.
3. There's no point complaining. Solve this problem.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Apr 23 9.23pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian

err 400 illegals a day = 146000 per annum......how many does it take to become mass immigration??

A great deal more than about 1/4 of 1% per annum!

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Apr 23 9.27pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

The new left in all its glory. If you have any concerns about immigration, then you are a white supremacist.

Do you include those who had concerns about uncontrollable white immigration from the EU in your blanket denunciation.

Edited by georgenorman (11 Apr 2023 3.19pm)

No you aren't. Only those who continually talk of the "white race" being eliminated via their "Great Replacement Theory" offer themselves as candidates for such a description.

If you don't, you aren't.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Apr 23 9.41pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

When the facts don't fit the narrative...

Michael Vaughan doesn't come over as a racist to me, but I suspect he now realises that his remark was both unwise and inaccurate. There may well not be as many English people who look like him as there once were living in London, but there are many who have either been naturalised, or are the children and grandchildren of the naturalised. They are just as English as you, me and Michael Vaughan. Unfortunately, some folk struggle to come to terms with that fact.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Apr 23 9.49pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

I didn't think it would. The whole point here is that you're claiming there is no mass immigration but the two biggest cities in the country are now minority English.

Are you sure about that?

I think you will find most immigrants on the 5-year route to indefinite leave to remain go on to become British citizens as this gives them more rights and a valuable passport.

So after that they have an equal status to you or me.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 11 Apr 23 9.59pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Are you sure about that?

I think you will find most immigrants on the 5-year route to indefinite leave to remain go on to become British citizens as this gives them more rights and a valuable passport.

So after that they have an equal status to you or me.


Yes. Unless the last census was wrong.
By this logic anyone moving to China be Chinese in five years.

 

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