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Teddy Eagle 11 Apr 23 1.18pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle We don't have mass immigration. We have necessary immigration and illegal immigration. Necessary immigration fills the holes that the indigenous population cannot service. Illegal immigration needs to be better controlled. The infrastructure falls apart unless it is serviced. Can you see the reasons yet? Of course, you can't. You live in a white supremacist fantasy. It isn't a supremacist fantasy to accept that the populations of London, Birmingham, Manchester and Leicester are less than 50% white British.
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Teddy Eagle

11 Apr 23 1.18pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

We don't have mass immigration. We have necessary immigration and illegal immigration.

Necessary immigration fills the holes that the indigenous population cannot service.

Illegal immigration needs to be better controlled.

The infrastructure falls apart unless it is serviced. Can you see the reasons yet?

Of course, you can't. You live in a white supremacist fantasy.

It isn't a supremacist fantasy to accept that the populations of London, Birmingham, Manchester and Leicester are less than 50% white British.

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georgenorman 11 Apr 23 2.09pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle We don't have mass immigration. We have necessary immigration and illegal immigration. Necessary immigration fills the holes that the indigenous population cannot service. Illegal immigration needs to be better controlled. The infrastructure falls apart unless it is serviced. Can you see the reasons yet? Of course, you can't. You live in a white supremacist fantasy. The new left in all its glory. If you have any concerns about immigration, then you are a white supremacist. Do you include those who had concerns about uncontrollable white immigration from the EU in your blanket denunciation. Edited by georgenorman (11 Apr 2023 3.19pm)
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11 Apr 23 2.09pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

We don't have mass immigration. We have necessary immigration and illegal immigration.

Necessary immigration fills the holes that the indigenous population cannot service.

Illegal immigration needs to be better controlled.

The infrastructure falls apart unless it is serviced. Can you see the reasons yet?

Of course, you can't. You live in a white supremacist fantasy.

The new left in all its glory. If you have any concerns about immigration, then you are a white supremacist.

Do you include those who had concerns about uncontrollable white immigration from the EU in your blanket denunciation.

Edited by georgenorman (11 Apr 2023 3.19pm)

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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 11 Apr 23 2.58pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle We don't have mass immigration. We have necessary immigration and illegal immigration. Necessary immigration fills the holes that the indigenous population cannot service. Illegal immigration needs to be better controlled. The infrastructure falls apart unless it is serviced. Can you see the reasons yet? Of course, you can't. You live in a white supremacist fantasy. err 400 illegals a day = 146000 per annum......how many does it take to become mass immigration??
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The garden of England.(not really) 11 Apr 23 2.58pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

We don't have mass immigration. We have necessary immigration and illegal immigration.

Necessary immigration fills the holes that the indigenous population cannot service.

Illegal immigration needs to be better controlled.

The infrastructure falls apart unless it is serviced. Can you see the reasons yet?

Of course, you can't. You live in a white supremacist fantasy.

err 400 illegals a day = 146000 per annum......how many does it take to become mass immigration??

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Hrolf The Ganger 11 Apr 23 3.14pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle We don't have mass immigration. We have necessary immigration and illegal immigration. Necessary immigration fills the holes that the indigenous population cannot service. Illegal immigration needs to be better controlled. The infrastructure falls apart unless it is serviced. Can you see the reasons yet? Of course, you can't. You live in a white supremacist fantasy. Final proof that Wisbech is a parody account. I have told you that a bigger population needs more people to service it. How many people would it take for you to call it mass immigration? A record 504k in the last year not enough for you? So we are now White supremacists for questioning immigration policy? That is the wittering of a loon in my book. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (11 Apr 2023 3.15pm)
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

We don't have mass immigration. We have necessary immigration and illegal immigration.

Necessary immigration fills the holes that the indigenous population cannot service.

Illegal immigration needs to be better controlled.

The infrastructure falls apart unless it is serviced. Can you see the reasons yet?

Of course, you can't. You live in a white supremacist fantasy.

Final proof that Wisbech is a parody account.

I have told you that a bigger population needs more people to service it.

How many people would it take for you to call it mass immigration?

A record 504k in the last year not enough for you?

So we are now White supremacists for questioning immigration policy?
That is the wittering of a loon in my book.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (11 Apr 2023 3.15pm)

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Midlands Eagle 11 Apr 23 4.39pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle It isn't a supremacist fantasy to accept that the populations of London, Birmingham, Manchester and Leicester are less than 50% white British. Michael Vaughan got slated mercilessly as a racist for tweeting that there weren't many English living in London any more
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

It isn't a supremacist fantasy to accept that the populations of London, Birmingham, Manchester and Leicester are less than 50% white British.

Michael Vaughan got slated mercilessly as a racist for tweeting that there weren't many English living in London any more

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Teddy Eagle 11 Apr 23 4.43pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Michael Vaughan got slated mercilessly as a racist for tweeting that there weren't many English living in London any more When the facts don't fit the narrative...
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Teddy Eagle

11 Apr 23 4.43pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Michael Vaughan got slated mercilessly as a racist for tweeting that there weren't many English living in London any more

When the facts don't fit the narrative...

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Apr 23 4.51pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle It isn't a supremacist fantasy to accept that the populations of London, Birmingham, Manchester and Leicester are less than 50% white British. As long as anyone continues to classify people by the colour of their skin we will have problems. People are either British or they aren't. What matters is how they behave, and nothing else at all. Condemn and deal with bad behaviour. Demand acceptance of our common standards and the law. Accept there are areas of deprivation which need improvement. But don't discriminate on issues like skin colour where an individual has no choice in the matter. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 11 Apr 23 4.51pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

It isn't a supremacist fantasy to accept that the populations of London, Birmingham, Manchester and Leicester are less than 50% white British.

As long as anyone continues to classify people by the colour of their skin we will have problems.

People are either British or they aren't. What matters is how they behave, and nothing else at all. Condemn and deal with bad behaviour. Demand acceptance of our common standards and the law. Accept there are areas of deprivation which need improvement. But don't discriminate on issues like skin colour where an individual has no choice in the matter.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Teddy Eagle 11 Apr 23 4.56pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle As long as anyone continues to classify people by the colour of their skin we will have problems. People are either British or they aren't. What matters is how they behave, and nothing else at all. Condemn and deal with bad behaviour. Demand acceptance of our common standards and the law. Accept there are areas of deprivation which need improvement. But don't discriminate on issues like skin colour where an individual has no choice in the matter. That argument didn't apply when taking a knee was discussed.
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11 Apr 23 4.56pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As long as anyone continues to classify people by the colour of their skin we will have problems.

That argument didn't apply when taking a knee was discussed.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Apr 23 5.02pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Final proof that Wisbech is a parody account. I have told you that a bigger population needs more people to service it. How many people would it take for you to call it mass immigration? A record 504k in the last year not enough for you? So we are now White supremacists for questioning immigration policy? That is the wittering of a loon in my book. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (11 Apr 2023 3.15pm) Longer living people increases a population which is then more dependent on support. Declining birthrates mean less working age people. The consequences are immigration from countries who have more people. It's not difficult to understand, and it's an inevitability of today's world. Mass for me would be more than we either need or can handle. Questioning immigration is fine. We can have a reasoned debate about that. Introducing what the skin colour is and suggesting white skinned people from Europe are acceptable, whilst darker skinned people from elsewhere are not, is what isn't OK. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 11 Apr 23 5.02pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Final proof that Wisbech is a parody account.

I have told you that a bigger population needs more people to service it.

How many people would it take for you to call it mass immigration?

A record 504k in the last year not enough for you?

So we are now White supremacists for questioning immigration policy?
That is the wittering of a loon in my book.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (11 Apr 2023 3.15pm)

Longer living people increases a population which is then more dependent on support. Declining birthrates mean less working age people. The consequences are immigration from countries who have more people. It's not difficult to understand, and it's an inevitability of today's world.

Mass for me would be more than we either need or can handle.

Questioning immigration is fine. We can have a reasoned debate about that. Introducing what the skin colour is and suggesting white skinned people from Europe are acceptable, whilst darker skinned people from elsewhere are not, is what isn't OK.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Apr 23 5.04pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle That argument didn't apply when taking a knee was discussed. It didn't apply. Taking the knee was a sign of solidarity with those who faced discrimination. It wasn't itself discriminatory. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 11 Apr 23 5.04pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

That argument didn't apply when taking a knee was discussed.

It didn't apply.

Taking the knee was a sign of solidarity with those who faced discrimination. It wasn't itself discriminatory.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Teddy Eagle 11 Apr 23 5.15pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle It didn't apply. Taking the knee was a sign of solidarity with those who faced discrimination. It wasn't itself discriminatory. I didn't think it would. The whole point here is that you're claiming there is no mass immigration but the two biggest cities in the country are now minority English.
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11 Apr 23 5.15pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It didn't apply.

Taking the knee was a sign of solidarity with those who faced discrimination. It wasn't itself discriminatory.

I didn't think it would. The whole point here is that you're claiming there is no mass immigration but the two biggest cities in the country are now minority English.

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 11 Apr 23 5.19pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle There is no reason to doubt the pro rata calculations and dismiss them like that, just because they don't suit a narrative. I think it's pretty obvious that we are all using more water these days, given our lifestyles. As a kid I had a weekly bath. As a samll kid, using the same water as my sister. These days I shower daily, often twice daily. For sure we are living longer, so there are more of us now. A declining birth rate is a primary reason for the need to allow controlled immigration, so that the work force can be sustained. If we managed, in some way, to increase the birthrate, so we didn't need immigration then the water use would still increase. The only way to impact it would be to ensure people didn't live longer. I cannot see that being a vote winner! I am not dismissing your figures, just doubting how they could be derived accurately by any scientific means. Other than a guesstimate. The need for immigration was to sustain the workforce, so their contributions could pay for the absolute f-ck-wittedness of the Pension schemes, pre-1990's, Where pensions actually not sustained by contributions from those that benefitted, but were heavily reliant on an ever-increasing workforce to bail them out. It was a system doomed to failure, for which this generation (and those that follow) will be paying the price. That of course assumes that immigrants come here to work and contribute. Not free-load off an over-burdened state system or get involved with crime. Like stirlingsays, no Government ever wants to sort out a long-term plan, They do the minimum possible and stumble onto the next crisis. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (11 Apr 2023 5.21pm) I disengage, I turn the page.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

There is no reason to doubt the pro rata calculations and dismiss them like that, just because they don't suit a narrative. I think it's pretty obvious that we are all using more water these days, given our lifestyles. As a kid I had a weekly bath. As a samll kid, using the same water as my sister. These days I shower daily, often twice daily.

For sure we are living longer, so there are more of us now. A declining birth rate is a primary reason for the need to allow controlled immigration, so that the work force can be sustained. If we managed, in some way, to increase the birthrate, so we didn't need immigration then the water use would still increase. The only way to impact it would be to ensure people didn't live longer. I cannot see that being a vote winner!

I am not dismissing your figures, just doubting how they could be derived accurately by any scientific means. Other than a guesstimate.

The need for immigration was to sustain the workforce, so their contributions could pay for the absolute f-ck-wittedness of the Pension schemes, pre-1990's, Where pensions actually not sustained by contributions from those that benefitted, but were heavily reliant on an ever-increasing workforce to bail them out. It was a system doomed to failure, for which this generation (and those that follow) will be paying the price.
That of course assumes that immigrants come here to work and contribute.
Not free-load off an over-burdened state system or get involved with crime.

Like stirlingsays, no Government ever wants to sort out a long-term plan, They do the minimum possible and stumble onto the next crisis.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (11 Apr 2023 5.21pm)

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