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becky Flag over the moon 10 Apr 23 7.53am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I mentioned your post to my nurse wife and she said that they had to do everything in their power to keep patients alive even if there was no quality of life at all

Which is why everyone should sort out their DNR status (do not resuscitate) when they go into hospital.

I was certainly asked to clarify my wishes for the files when I last was in there.

 


A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 10 Apr 23 8.51am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As usual you allocate everything that happens to immigration.

Increased numbers certainly account for a small part of the increasing demand, but by no means not all. Look where it features in this:-

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It's the per capita increase which accounts for most of it!

Just imagine that we had done what you want and stopped all immigration. Which would be impossible anyway, but let's suppose. Would our health service still be operating? Maybe with a lack of plumbers we would be leaking water everywhere and using even more water!!!!


Where you pluck your data from depends on the argument to are trying to rationalise.
Do a bit of research and actually dishwashers and modern washing machines use less water than by doing them by hand. Data about household usage can only have been gathered recently with the fitting of water meters, therefore comparisons with previous estimates are extremely tenuous.
The population in the UK is sky-rocketing, and the two main factors are:
(the birth rate is stagnating, and actually falling)
People living longer
Immigration

 


I disengage, I turn the page.

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 10 Apr 23 8.52am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I mentioned your post to my nurse wife and she said that they had to do everything in their power to keep patients alive even if there was no quality of life at all

I appreciate you mentioning it to your wife on the front line and it probably puts some meat on the bone of what I wrote. (Did she have sympathy for it?) Daily medication has been around since penicillin saving lives and this would include insulin, heart drugs etc. Advancements in medication is there to be used as we can operate quite normally with them.

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 10 Apr 23 9.11am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

I appreciate you mentioning it to your wife on the front line and it probably puts some meat on the bone of what I wrote. (Did she have sympathy for it?)

Very much so as she said that no-one should have to live like that

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 10 Apr 23 10.11am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Very much so as she said that no-one should have to live like that

Thanks for your honesty. After you questioned it I second guessed myself on what I wrote and peoples daily dependence on medication for preservation of our lives.

 

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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 10 Apr 23 10.32am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

since 1946 the Tories have dominated Westminster by promising to control immigration.

Lo and behold their promises.....anywhere in England today.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 10 Apr 23 11.07am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

How about a global climate change that has shifted the jet stream by 330kms and created more and more long dry spells in summer.

Cyclops

I knew I could rely on you to come up with a stupid excuse.

Claiming that England doesn't get enough rainfall really is idiotic, even by your standards

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 10 Apr 23 11.14am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As usual you allocate everything that happens to immigration.

Increased numbers certainly account for a small part of the increasing demand, but by no means not all. Look where it features in this:-

[Link]

It's the per capita increase which accounts for most of it!

Just imagine that we had done what you want and stopped all immigration. Which would be impossible anyway, but let's suppose. Would our health service still be operating? Maybe with a lack of plumbers we would be leaking water everywhere and using even more water!!!!


All immigration? No one suggested that.

Mass immigration is self defeating policy. There are plenty who are already experiencing the impact.

The more people you import, the more people you need to service them.

Our infrastructure is finite. Can you see the problem yet?

Of course you can't. You live in an idealistic fantasy.

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 10 Apr 23 11.23am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I knew I could rely on you to come up with a stupid excuse.

Claiming that England doesn't get enough rainfall really is idiotic, even by your standards

You really don't understand much do you.

It's not worth explaining the simplest stuff to some people

Let's just say weather is changing, we'll get torrential rain at some points of the year and prolonged dry at others. Unless you have an enormous water store at the bottom of your garden capable of providing you with several months of water, be worried.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 10 Apr 23 12.21pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

You really don't understand much do you.

It's not worth explaining the simplest stuff to some people

Let's just say weather is changing, we'll get torrential rain at some points of the year and prolonged dry at others. Unless you have an enormous water store at the bottom of your garden capable of providing you with several months of water, be worried.

Please do.

What is most bonkers is ignoring rapidly increasing population in a conversation about water shortages.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Apr 23 1.05pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


All immigration? No one suggested that.

Mass immigration is self defeating policy. There are plenty who are already experiencing the impact.

The more people you import, the more people you need to service them.

Our infrastructure is finite. Can you see the problem yet?

Of course you can't. You live in an idealistic fantasy.

We don't have mass immigration. We have necessary immigration and illegal immigration.

Necessary immigration fills the holes that the indigenous population cannot service.

Illegal immigration needs to be better controlled.

The infrastructure falls apart unless it is serviced. Can you see the reasons yet?

Of course, you can't. You live in a white supremacist fantasy.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Apr 23 1.16pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly


Where you pluck your data from depends on the argument to are trying to rationalise.
Do a bit of research and actually dishwashers and modern washing machines use less water than by doing them by hand. Data about household usage can only have been gathered recently with the fitting of water meters, therefore comparisons with previous estimates are extremely tenuous.
The population in the UK is sky-rocketing, and the two main factors are:
(the birth rate is stagnating, and actually falling)
People living longer
Immigration

There is no reason to doubt the pro rata calculations and dismiss them like that, just because they don't suit a narrative. I think it's pretty obvious that we are all using more water these days, given our lifestyles. As a kid I had a weekly bath. As a samll kid, using the same water as my sister. These days I shower daily, often twice daily.

For sure we are living longer, so there are more of us now. A declining birth rate is a primary reason for the need to allow controlled immigration, so that the work force can be sustained. If we managed, in some way, to increase the birthrate, so we didn't need immigration then the water use would still increase. The only way to impact it would be to ensure people didn't live longer. I cannot see that being a vote winner!

 


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