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PalazioVecchio south pole 01 Jun 20 12.57am | |
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Originally posted by DanH
Because you’re a tedious racist. ....and you're a broken record.
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BlueJay UK 01 Jun 20 2.10am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The hyper partisan environment in the US certainly leads to opportunism by both the media and those wishing to hijack a cause for their own purposes. In and of itself though, protesting over this is not something that's particularly out there. Video footage, especially if it's disturbing in its content, brings about a visceral drive in people. Unfortunately any protest where feelings are very high can spill over and undermine the peaceful elements though. We see it from the shameless looting, destruction of small businesses, and also from the police side, we see it when people get shot at or wounded simply on account that they are standing on their own porch [Link] or standing around smoking during the protests [Link]
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Cpfc1861 01 Jun 20 6.19am | |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
Be carfull, you'll be a called racist for saying that. Dont care I always answer this with a question if there was no racism in the USA (which there is of course) would unarmed people still get shot. Nobody wants to answer the question because they know the answer is yes. If the answer is yes is race the issue? Clearly no so let's discuss it further if every guy and his dog has a gun even if he isnt carrying it at the time are the police more or less likely to panic at the sight of a sandwich wrapped in foil? If you train your police on a shoot to kill policy to avoid danger to the public if a civilian draws a firearm which they may or may not have what are the odds of said civilian surviviving? the casual American well then answer with f*** you dont take my guns away MURICA YEEHAWW.They would rather blame it on race then accept they have to give up their guns FACT
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Spiderman Horsham 01 Jun 20 8.52am | |
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Originally posted by DanH
Because you’re a tedious racist. Dan, in 2 posts you called him an old racist windbag and a tedious racist, whether you agree with other posters views or not, I see no reason to resort to this type of insult. If you know him personally and have witnessed him behaving in a racist manner, fair enough. I very much doubt that this is the case so, by all means criticise his views but please less of the insults, it really doesn't become you. Here endeth the lesson
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DanH SW2 01 Jun 20 8.57am | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Dan, in 2 posts you called him an old racist windbag and a tedious racist, whether you agree with other posters views or not, I see no reason to resort to this type of insult. If you know him personally and have witnessed him behaving in a racist manner, fair enough. I very much doubt that this is the case so, by all means criticise his views but please less of the insults, it really doesn't become you. Here endeth the lesson He literally posts incessantly about race and it’s quite clear what his viewpoints are.
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Cpfc1861 01 Jun 20 9.05am | |
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Originally posted by DanH
He literally posts incessantly about race and it’s quite clear what his viewpoints are. Nothing I saw from him appeared racist it just appears you couldnt debate his point and returned armed with labels. This should be a grown up discussion nobody here things what happened was ok but the conversation is more along the lines are American police brutal on the basis of race or are they just generally brutal. I believe the latter hence why the majority of unarmed people killed by then are still white. But is this a result of the old bill being evil or the American way of life IE guns being so prominent jumpy police is natural I would argue a combination of both. Like I said earlier if racism was removed from America totally would unarmed people still be killed by police a lot the answer would be yes.
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Badger11 Beckenham 01 Jun 20 9.14am | |
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Originally posted by Cpfc1861
Nothing I saw from him appeared racist it just appears you couldnt debate his point and returned armed with labels. This should be a grown up discussion nobody here things what happened was ok but the conversation is more along the lines are American police brutal on the basis of race or are they just generally brutal. I believe the latter hence why the majority of unarmed people killed by then are still white. But is this a result of the old bill being evil or the American way of life IE guns being so prominent jumpy police is natural I would argue a combination of both. Like I said earlier if racism was removed from America totally would unarmed people still be killed by police a lot the answer would be yes. As I have previously posted the quality of the average cop is poor as is their training it just doesn't compare to our boys and girls. I have no doubt there are racists in the police force but the whole training approach / lack of training is the bigger problem. Until the Federal government steps in and funds local policing you are going to get vast differences in quality across the country. Edited by Badger11 (01 Jun 2020 9.14am)
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Hrolf The Ganger 01 Jun 20 9.20am | |
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Originally posted by DanH
He literally posts incessantly about race and it’s quite clear what his viewpoints are. Is this more berating? #hypocrite
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Cpfc1861 01 Jun 20 9.21am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
As I have previously posted the quality of the average cop is poor as is their training it just doesn't compare to our boys and girls. I have no doubt there are racists in the police force but the whole training approach / lack of training is the bigger problem. Until the Federal government steps in and funds local policing you are going to get vast differences in quality across the country. Edited by Badger11 (01 Jun 2020 9.14am) Theres racists everywhere as you said that will never change but I agree the real problem is the quality of the police force being poor and giving them the most lethal equipment of any police force in the world. Terrible combination
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Hrolf The Ganger 01 Jun 20 9.29am | |
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Originally posted by DanH
Oh yes I forgot that calling someone racist is worse than actually being racist now. Your accusations are baseless. Nothing anyone has said is racist. You resort to type when your flimsy position is exposed, like all Leftists. This situation is people like you taking advantage of a needless death to push your deluded self serving People die all the time in the violent cities of the USA and when they are White no one says a dicky bird about it. This is just the cynical use of a tragedy to attack White America and specifically Donald Trump with the Leftist, progressive morons of the media fanning the flames.
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Badger11 Beckenham 01 Jun 20 9.36am | |
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Their whole justice system needs an overhaul and I can understand why some people are angry. Plea bargaining has one major fault. Imagine you are a poor person wrongly charged with a crime you are facing 30 years in jail the DA offers you 3 years. Your poorly paid overworked state lawyer tells you to take it as juries assume people are guilty so your changes of getting off are not good. Rich clients can afford the best lawyers and experts even when they are guilty to sew doubt e.g. O.J. Simpson. The appeals process is a joke and varies widely between states. As for the forensic evidence that the police used or didn't again this varies widely and there have been all sorts of scandals about testing laboratories. And then worst of all you get jailed and spend you time being raped by other inmates. No wonder people are angry.
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DanH SW2 01 Jun 20 9.43am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Your accusations are baseless. Nothing anyone has said is racist. You resort to type when your flimsy position is exposed, like all Leftists. This situation is people like you taking advantage of a needless death to push your deluded self serving People die all the time in the violent cities of the USA and when they are White no one says a dicky bird about it. This is just the cynical use of a tragedy to attack White America and specifically Donald Trump with the Leftist, progressive morons of the media fanning the flames. Black people have been treated like second class citizens for centuries in their country and are now led by someone who fans the flames. That’s why they’re angry. And it wasn’t baseless, his posting history speaks for itself. No wonder you’re on his side though.
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