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Teddy Eagle 01 Aug 24 10.40pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No it didn’t so well done to him for responding positively to try to curtail this activity. It’s necessary. Anyone who cannot see that and has even a smidgeon of sympathy for the actions of these thugs is part of the problem. We need to leave policing to the police and the prosecution of offenders to the legal system. Not try to disrupt their work. All in favour if it stops people blowing up tube trains or music venues.
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XKudu The Midlands, England 01 Aug 24 10.41pm | |
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Originally posted by dreamwaverider
These guys are taking over. So clear to see. Who knows what the motive was. It may not have deep dark radical undertones of someone trying to undermine British society. It could be a case of a skinny ugly little w@nker who never got a date in his life with girls he fancied flipping, and taking it out on the most vulnerable. A true evil coward. I read he cowarded when 2 cops and a Good Samaritan roofer (black guy if that’s relevant ) took him down. All heroes in my book. We need to wait and see. Keep an open mind.
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Stirlingsays 01 Aug 24 10.43pm | |
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This image points out the double standards but in truth it doesn't matter what Starmer said....we know that Sunak would have said the same thing as they are two sides of the same coin. Ultimately what happens is all a matter of demographics, timeline and human nature. Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Aug 2024 10.43pm) Attachment: starmer.JPG (218.52Kb)
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Aug 24 10.53pm | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
That’s because what happened was a consequence of policy which I’m guessing our politicians have either been compelled to commit to by outside influences or have adopted as they see it necessary for power. Maybe both. Therefore, anybody bringing attention to the consequences for this, no matter how horrific they are, such as children being murdered, needs to be demonised for daring to pose anything even slightly resembling a threat to the status quo. The irony of a hit squad being pulled together overnight to suppress individuals doing this, however inappropriately, yet no action is taken for far worse mobs, far worse riots and far worse social consequences is beyond parody, especially with any attempt to label the discontented as ‘nazis’. Suppression of speech and unrest in response to horrific atrocities, cancellation and arrest for going against the narrative, compelled speech, protection of illogical lunacy. There’s much more, could go on forever. As I’ve stated previously, I have every empathy for those just going along to get along. It’s perfectly understandable that the individual would feel stuck in this space. I do. A small mob rioting in a ridiculous manner isn’t the answer, it’s somewhere unhelpful between complete inaction and effective action. The whole country has felt ever increasingly divided and volatile, financially and socially. The reality is worsening and you do fear that there are probably many ‘yets’ to come. I’m not convinced by this being specifically targeted against whites/the native population or what have you, or certainly not occurring for that purpose. Not ruling it out but I genuinely don’t and wouldn’t know. From my perspective however it does very much look like a deliberate attempt to empower those who feel powerless (and are therefore full of bitterness and resentment), disempower those who previously held any and create division and hatred (notice how that phrase is always employed). I’m ignorant of any conspiracies, I don’t particularly subscribe to a specific one, but this is all so ridiculous it’s starting to feel deliberately manufactured and eerily reminiscent of a pathway to totalitarianism. It won’t be a “hit squad” though will it? With police resources over stretched already forming a rapid response unit using officers from all over the country makes sense. It can be resourced and trained specifically to deal with these kind of outbreaks of violence without a major impact on the local provision. Genuine protest that raises questions is a welcome function of our democracy. Throwing bricks at policemen and chanting provocative racist slogans, whilst full of beer, isn’t.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Aug 24 10.57pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
All in favour if it stops people blowing up tube trains or music venues.
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 01 Aug 24 11.02pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It won’t collapse because there are far more of us who are like the good people of Southport than there are mindless thugs who think causing mayhem is protesting and those who have the slightest sympathy for them. I have been with a large group of people this evening. All I spoke with had nothing but disgust for those involved in the rioting. The trouble here is that it is a small echo chamber of hard right thinking which gets very little exposure to the way most people think. Whenever anyone injects a line or two of common sense they receive a chorus of insults and abuse. Try getting out more! Did the children who were murdered come up in conversation at all?
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Teddy Eagle 01 Aug 24 11.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
How many terror incidents have these boneheads been responsible for?
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Aug 24 11.05pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Well Muslims don’t drink so they knew what they were doing in Leeds. I thought the riots in Leeds involved Roma families reacting to a child safety intervention by social services.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Aug 24 11.13pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
I can understand you view some of the rioters in Southport this way, but those in London? This is what is infuriating a lot of people and isn’t helping the situation. Lumping everyone in the far right bundle, and oh, the EDL. There are a lot of people feeling the same way as the innocent protesters. Does that make large section of society the far right? The videos I saw of the riots in London didn’t look very peaceful at all and those involved pretty similar to those in Southport. I don’t think there are many who have any sympathy whatsoever for this kind of behaviour. Which is frequently very far from innocent protest .You are imagining it because you only hear echos. All those I speak to condemn it out of hand. There is only a tiny section of society that is far right. Thankfully.
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XKudu The Midlands, England 01 Aug 24 11.16pm | |
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Some posters on here lose credibility when they try to justify a 2 tier policing policy. Wisbech last comment is a classic example where he says throwing bricks at police AND chanting apparently racist comments by drunken thugs is unacceptable. I take it he believes if it’s just violence including throwing bricks it’s bizarrely ok. Can you see what he’s trying to achieve by that stance? Clamping down on selected protests. We need fairness and equal proportionate policing across the board. Violence is the only metric that the police should use when deciding how to react.
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Teddy Eagle 01 Aug 24 11.18pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The videos I saw of the riots in London didn’t look very peaceful at all and those involved pretty similar to those in Southport. I don’t think there are many who have any sympathy whatsoever for this kind of behaviour. Which is frequently very far from innocent protest .You are imagining it because you only hear echos. All those I speak to condemn it out of hand. There is only a tiny section of society that is far right. Thankfully. Everyone agrees? Bit of an echo chamber thing going on then.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Aug 24 11.18pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
How many terror incidents have these boneheads been responsible for? Depends what you mean by terror, but of the kind seen on Monday, probably none, directly. Indirectly, who knows? That though is no excuse for behaving as they do. Terrorist atrocities are bad enough without boneheaded idiots making things worse.
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