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Hrolf The Ganger 08 Sep 21 7.48am | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
So are you saying only right leaning papers are biased? As that is all you have quoted. To say coverage of Trump was not biased is, IMO, a staggering statement He really is demented.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Sep 21 8.47am | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
So are you saying only right leaning papers are biased? As that is all you have quoted. To say coverage of Trump was not biased is, IMO, a staggering statement I used them as obvious examples, to counter the spurious idea that only "leftish" bias exists in the media. Only the Mirror and the Guardian tend to look the other way and are well out numbered. No, the coverage of Trump wasn't "biased". It was often negative, but bias demands it is presented from a particular viewpoint. When the consensus in the UK was overwhelmingly negative, reporting that was factual. Only people like Farage worshipped at Trump's temple. His views got covered too. It's like the views on the BBC that are expressed here. The bias that is seen is only seen because those that see it are themselves biased. The problem is that they won't realise that, let alone be able to admit to it.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Sep 21 8.51am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
So in your world, right leaning newspapers and GB News are the only outlets that are biased and the vast majority that are Left leaning are not? The Trump coverage was not biased? Now I know that you must be a troll. No one sane or serious could hold that opinion. Go and play with the sheep. Read my reply to Spider. It answers the questions, without needing to deal with any more of your juvenile attempts at insults.
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Hrolf The Ganger 08 Sep 21 9.26am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Read my reply to Spider. It answers the questions, without needing to deal with any more of your juvenile attempts at insults. Just a lot of word play waffle. Your credibility is now non existent. Go climb a tor.
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Pembroke Bristol 08 Sep 21 10.41am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I used them as obvious examples, to counter the spurious idea that only "leftish" bias exists in the media. Only the Mirror and the Guardian tend to look the other way and are well out numbered. No, the coverage of Trump wasn't "biased". It was often negative, but bias demands it is presented from a particular viewpoint. When the consensus in the UK was overwhelmingly negative, reporting that was factual. Only people like Farage worshipped at Trump's temple. His views got covered too. It's like the views on the BBC that are expressed here. The bias that is seen is only seen because those that see it are themselves biased. And of course only you can see this? The BBC was proven to be biased in regards to Brexit. Its panelists and guests were overwhelmingly remain - A fact.
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BlueJay UK 08 Sep 21 12.13pm | |
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Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64
What is "the dark web"? Any idea? Is it only for extremists? Is everyone who enters it eternally damned? Kind of like a satanic oath or something? Or is it simply a VPN? Or maybe only restricted to P2P? Or do you have a clue what you are talking about? Parts of the Internet that are not accessible via typical browsing. So of course no, using a VPN has little to do with it. Whereas something like TOR would be. I would suggest that being a bit naughty and downloading a blockbuster movie over VPN might be a good use of that technology in terms of obscuring this fact from an ISP. However, it would be foolish to imagine that governments aren't easily able to circumvent that. Networks that more successfully anonymise those using in like TOR, clearly have many legitimate users but also attract hordes those wanting to mask their activity for more nefarious reasons. We already know this, it's not news. I would suggest that everybody using such networks is by default likely on a government watchlist due to the significantly increased concerns around the platform. It raises difficult questions about privacy vs the need to protect the vulnerable and tackle extremist.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Sep 21 12.58pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Just a lot of word play waffle. Your credibility is now non existent. Go climb a tor. That is the kind of high quality response that is your trademark. As I would be very worried if I held any credibility with someone like you, I am grateful for the comfort of knowing that I don't.
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Stirlingsays 08 Sep 21 1.05pm | |
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This probably makes you among the most comfortable people on the planet.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Sep 21 1.11pm | |
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Originally posted by Pembroke
And of course only you can see this? The BBC was proven to be biased in regards to Brexit. Its panelists and guests were overwhelmingly remain - A fact. Of course, it isn't just me. Ofcom and the BBC Board are charged with ensuring it meets its mission. Which includes "The Board must uphold and protect the independence of the BBC and make its decisions in the public interest." I provided a reference yesterday from the "New Statesman", which is a serious political magazine, which said much the same. Show me where it was "proven" to be biased over Brexit! That this is a commonly held opinion, repeatedly asserted as if it was fact, does not make it true. It simply means people don't like it when their point of view isn't given the dominance they think it deserves.
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Hrolf The Ganger 08 Sep 21 1.20pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That is the kind of high quality response that is your trademark. As I would be very worried if I held any credibility with someone like you, I am grateful for the comfort of knowing that I don't. You are boring. There is no coming back from the utter deluded contradictory twaddle you have posted today.
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Teddy Eagle 08 Sep 21 1.21pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Of course, it isn't just me. Ofcom and the BBC Board are charged with ensuring it meets its mission. Which includes "The Board must uphold and protect the independence of the BBC and make its decisions in the public interest." I provided a reference yesterday from the "New Statesman", which is a serious political magazine, which said much the same. Show me where it was "proven" to be biased over Brexit! That this is a commonly held opinion, repeatedly asserted as if it was fact, does not make it true. It simply means people don't like it when their point of view isn't given the dominance they think it deserves. Their point of view was given enough dominance to result in leaving the EU regardless of any perceived BBC bias.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Sep 21 1.22pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
This probably makes you among the most comfortable people on the planet. I am pretty contented, that's true, but that's not due to being reassured by those on the margins disagreeing with me. Not enough of them, in the world at large, to make much difference. That they band together in the small places like this, in which they can confirm their biases, can lead them into the false belief that their views are mainstream. I might be outnumbered here, but in the real world I am part of the majority, whose political leanings are only mildly left or right and who agree about the bigger issues.
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