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thosewerethedays Taba 19 Aug 19 12.58pm
Totally agree. When things weren't working Roy should have tried changing the formation slightly in the 2nd half by putting Zaha on the wings and Meyer centrally. He should have taken off Benteke and brough in Ayew early. Bring back The HF!
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Totally agree.

When things weren't working Roy should have tried changing the formation slightly in the 2nd half by putting Zaha on the wings and Meyer centrally. He should have taken off Benteke and brough in Ayew early.

Bring back The HF!

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thosewerethedays Taba 19 Aug 19 1.03pm
Indeed they do! LM just afte signing a new deal should be leading and bollocking as a captain. I am hoping he isnt just comfortable now?! There was a real lack of quality all over the pitch for both teams yesterday. The only difference in the two teams was heart and desire. They had all of it and we had zero. I can take a loss on the chin, I can't accept a gutless performance. This team needs a rocket up it and several hairdryers thrown at them. Bring back The HF!
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Indeed they do! LM just afte signing a new deal should be leading and bollocking as a captain. I am hoping he isnt just comfortable now?!
There was a real lack of quality all over the pitch for both teams yesterday. The only difference in the two teams was heart and desire. They had all of it and we had zero.

I can take a loss on the chin, I can't accept a gutless performance. This team needs a rocket up it and several hairdryers thrown at them.

Bring back The HF!

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 19 Aug 19 1.09pm
Usually I get over these defeats. I mean, we are Palace - what do we expect? It's just that why do we have to do this every year? We just don't learn simple lessons. We haven't improved at all. I really thought it would be nice to be an established Premier League side and start to raise our profile. Get richer owners, get our shirts into JD sports or whatever, and have some ground improvements, raise the academy level. What do we get instead? Fire fighting at every window and a rag tag squad of largely journeymen every season. Our only youngster gone. Monday morning depression. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 19 Aug 19 1.09pm

Usually I get over these defeats. I mean, we are Palace - what do we expect? It's just that why do we have to do this every year? We just don't learn simple lessons. We haven't improved at all. I really thought it would be nice to be an established Premier League side and start to raise our profile. Get richer owners, get our shirts into JD sports or whatever, and have some ground improvements, raise the academy level.
What do we get instead? Fire fighting at every window and a rag tag squad of largely journeymen every season. Our only youngster gone. Monday morning depression.

Red and Blue Army!

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Painter Croydon 19 Aug 19 1.13pm
Originally posted by Lyons550 The issues are two fold....lack of investment and poor transfer policy. The yanks are causing massive unrest at the minute wanting out and witholding much needed investment as a result. That means any money we get in is either being used to pay down debts or to line their pockets before they feck off. As for transfers...we made two GOOD acquisitions in Cahill and Camarassa...so why aren't we playing them. However in general our transfer policy is awful...we should be bringing in players to cover for those being sold...we knew either AWB or WIlf was going as did the club...so why not get on with this? The reason being that we needed the money to come in BEFORE we could then afford to buy anyone..getting stripped for the price in the process. Again this is down to the Yanks not paying their way...it all comes back to them. The sooner we have new investors come in the better...problem is would they be any better? It appears American investors in Premier clubs expect a return on their money, they don’t go in for pumping loads of cash in to raise their profile as Russians and Middle East owners. Calls for new owners is just desperation on our part, a number of clubs have been sold over the last 15 years with varying degrees of success and failure. There is no guarantee any new owner is just going to throw cash in and get nothing back, they are businessmen not fools. As an investment we don’t look very attractive, the ground is the main issue, which Parish is trying to correct, but finding it difficult to get past CROYDON Council, Sainsbury’s and the Mayor of London. There is no easy solution.
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Originally posted by Lyons550

The issues are two fold....lack of investment and poor transfer policy.

The yanks are causing massive unrest at the minute wanting out and witholding much needed investment as a result. That means any money we get in is either being used to pay down debts or to line their pockets before they feck off.

As for transfers...we made two GOOD acquisitions in Cahill and Camarassa...so why aren't we playing them. However in general our transfer policy is awful...we should be bringing in players to cover for those being sold...we knew either AWB or WIlf was going as did the club...so why not get on with this? The reason being that we needed the money to come in BEFORE we could then afford to buy anyone..getting stripped for the price in the process.

Again this is down to the Yanks not paying their way...it all comes back to them. The sooner we have new investors come in the better...problem is would they be any better?

It appears American investors in Premier clubs expect a return on their money, they don’t go in for pumping loads of cash in to raise their profile as Russians and Middle East owners.

Calls for new owners is just desperation on our part, a number of clubs have been sold over the last 15 years with varying degrees of success and failure. There is no guarantee any new owner is just going to throw cash in and get nothing back, they are businessmen not fools. As an investment we don’t look very attractive, the ground is the main issue, which Parish is trying to correct, but finding it difficult to get past CROYDON Council, Sainsbury’s and the Mayor of London.

There is no easy solution.

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Lyons550 Shirley 19 Aug 19 1.20pm
Originally posted by Painter It appears American investors in Premier clubs expect a return on their money, they don’t go in for pumping loads of cash in to raise their profile as Russians and Middle East owners. Calls for new owners is just desperation on our part, a number of clubs have been sold over the last 15 years with varying degrees of success and failure. There is no guarantee any new owner is just going to throw cash in and get nothing back, they are businessmen not fools. As an investment we don’t look very attractive, the ground is the main issue, which Parish is trying to correct, but finding it difficult to get past CROYDON Council, Sainsbury’s and the Mayor of London. There is no easy solution. I agree with most of what you say...except that if the investors were either Chinese or Saudi...then its a 'toy' and not so much of a business. Whether 'desperation' or not, ownership is clearly an issue that needs to be resolved...and soon. Those that aren't 'desperate' to see this change are quite probably relaxed about survival regardless of what has been served up in the last 2 games. If that is indeed the case then i'm not quite sure as to what they're seeing that the majority aren't (?) The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Shirley 19 Aug 19 1.20pm

Originally posted by Painter

It appears American investors in Premier clubs expect a return on their money, they don’t go in for pumping loads of cash in to raise their profile as Russians and Middle East owners.

There is no easy solution.

I agree with most of what you say...except that if the investors were either Chinese or Saudi...then its a 'toy' and not so much of a business.

Whether 'desperation' or not, ownership is clearly an issue that needs to be resolved...and soon.

Those that aren't 'desperate' to see this change are quite probably relaxed about survival regardless of what has been served up in the last 2 games. If that is indeed the case then i'm not quite sure as to what they're seeing that the majority aren't (?)

The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World

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ex hibitionist Hastings 19 Aug 19 1.24pm
Originally posted by thosewerethedays Indeed they do! LM just afte signing a new deal should be leading and bollocking as a captain. I am hoping he isnt just comfortable now?! There was a real lack of quality all over the pitch for both teams yesterday. The only difference in the two teams was heart and desire. They had all of it and we had zero. I can take a loss on the chin, I can't accept a gutless performance. This team needs a rocket up it and several hairdryers thrown at them. agree entirely, but it was a general malaise, no individual could be picked out although Luka dropped off his marker for their goal - the squad needs big changes, i.e. Wilf has to go - it's not really Parish's fault that he never got a suitable offer - I thought at least one top club wud bid 80mil, but we have an unbalanced squad and the players know this, the progress towards making us a comfortable rather than uncomfortable mid-table side has stalled and gone backwards, hopefully McCarthy and Camarasa can get some attacking drive going and we put Tompkins at right back and drop Ward who was awful yesterday, those aimless crosses from the deep!!! Roy needs to come up with one of his plans - Zaha and Andros as a front two two seasons back, Schlupp and McArthur (past sell by date now) as inside forwards in front of Luka last season, some new system with the new personnel will see some improvement, but failures in the summer window have made finding an effective tactical set-up much harder, that's the root of the problem, that's what's sapping the players' belief and motivation. We have to prepare for life after Zexit!
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Originally posted by thosewerethedays

I can take a loss on the chin, I can't accept a gutless performance. This team needs a rocket up it and several hairdryers thrown at them.

agree entirely, but it was a general malaise, no individual could be picked out although Luka dropped off his marker for their goal - the squad needs big changes, i.e. Wilf has to go - it's not really Parish's fault that he never got a suitable offer - I thought at least one top club wud bid 80mil, but we have an unbalanced squad and the players know this, the progress towards making us a comfortable rather than uncomfortable mid-table side has stalled and gone backwards, hopefully McCarthy and Camarasa can get some attacking drive going and we put Tompkins at right back and drop Ward who was awful yesterday, those aimless crosses from the deep!!! Roy needs to come up with one of his plans - Zaha and Andros as a front two two seasons back, Schlupp and McArthur (past sell by date now) as inside forwards in front of Luka last season, some new system with the new personnel will see some improvement, but failures in the summer window have made finding an effective tactical set-up much harder, that's the root of the problem, that's what's sapping the players' belief and motivation. We have to prepare for life after Zexit!

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Gary St.Andrews Kenley 19 Aug 19 7.52pm
Our deliveries were very poor into the box, and why Townsend has to keep cutting in onto his left boot Christ knows. I want to see him get to the byline and cross it so Tekkers can attack it. We seem to complicate matters so much, and I’m sad to say it but Jimmy Mac is past it...
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Our deliveries were very poor into the box, and why Townsend has to keep cutting in onto his left boot Christ knows. I want to see him get to the byline and cross it so Tekkers can attack it.

We seem to complicate matters so much, and I’m sad to say it but Jimmy Mac is past it...

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lefty27 ipswich 19 Aug 19 10.19pm
Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews Our deliveries were very poor into the box, and why Townsend has to keep cutting in onto his left boot Christ knows. I want to see him get to the byline and cross it so Tekkers can attack it. We seem to complicate matters so much, and I’m sad to say it but Jimmy Mac is past it... Because he is left footed and playing on the right? Maybe we should think about playing Townsend on the left Wilf on the right and actually give Benteke a chance of scoring by crossing the ball.
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ipswich 19 Aug 19 10.19pm

Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews

Our deliveries were very poor into the box, and why Townsend has to keep cutting in onto his left boot Christ knows. I want to see him get to the byline and cross it so Tekkers can attack it.

We seem to complicate matters so much, and I’m sad to say it but Jimmy Mac is past it...

Because he is left footed and playing on the right? Maybe we should think about playing Townsend on the left Wilf on the right and actually give Benteke a chance of scoring by crossing the ball.

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manwitheagletattoo Somewhere in England 19 Aug 19 10.56pm
In the second half Chris Wilder read our play to the letter, and that it there is no plan B,C or D with our play or formation. Sheffield’s two wide players dropped back to midfield cutting off our through balls from defence, strangling our midfield into false error and then when we lost possession their wide player attacked our wing backs, it’s old school tactics. When we did get around the penalty area they got players back cutting out the space and again forcing Palace into losing possession. What I can’t understand is that Hodgson is not a novice, he has X amount of years experience and had no answer to Sheffield’s game plan. We should have counter acted, played a similar game to Sheffield. Five across the middle, closing down their midfield not giving their players time on the ball, then spreading to our wide players. Pumping balls into the box, The space between our striker/s and midfield was massive easy pickings for the Sheffield midfield. Edited by manwitheagletattoo (19 Aug 2019 10.56pm) South London & Proud Sometimes I really wonder if family are really worth it. Because it doesn’t matter how time and affection you give It’s never enough
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In the second half Chris Wilder read our play to the letter, and that it there is no plan B,C or D with our play or formation. Sheffield’s two wide players dropped back to midfield cutting off our through balls from defence, strangling our midfield into false error and then when we lost possession their wide player attacked our wing backs, it’s old school tactics.
When we did get around the penalty area they got players back cutting out the space and again forcing Palace into losing possession. What I can’t understand is that Hodgson is not a novice, he has X amount of years experience and had no answer to Sheffield’s game plan. We should have counter acted, played a similar game to Sheffield. Five across the middle, closing down their midfield not giving their players time on the ball, then spreading to our wide players. Pumping balls into the box, The space between our striker/s and midfield was massive easy pickings for the Sheffield midfield.

Edited by manwitheagletattoo (19 Aug 2019 10.56pm)

South London & Proud
Sometimes I really wonder if family are really worth it.
Because it doesn’t matter how time and affection you give
It’s never enough

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EddieMac 20 Aug 19 9.40am
There is always a positive in every bad experience and I am praying that after that abysmal performance on Saturday that it is going to have to force Roy's hands in making changes. If he had of nicked a draw then it would have papered over the cracks and he would have continued as normal. I think we will all be waiting for the team sheet on saturday with a lot of interest. Lets wait and see. If he starts Schlupp then I am going to put 2 lead blocks around my ankles and walk off London Bridge.
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There is always a positive in every bad experience and I am praying that after that abysmal performance on Saturday that it is going to have to force Roy's hands in making changes. If he had of nicked a draw then it would have papered over the cracks and he would have continued as normal.

I think we will all be waiting for the team sheet on saturday with a lot of interest. Lets wait and see.

If he starts Schlupp then I am going to put 2 lead blocks around my ankles and walk off London Bridge.

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Bexley Eagle Bexley Kent 20 Aug 19 2.38pm
Originally posted by dannyboy1978 Not from benteke. Get Wickham and Eyew up front with Zaha and Townsend supplying them. Regards to benteke you can't keep doing the same thing and expect a different outcome anymore. Edited by dannyboy1978 (19 Aug 2019 7.32am) I don't know about Eyew may be we should try Eeyore up front......hold on ...wait a minute we already have a donkey there already.
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Not from benteke. Get Wickham and Eyew up front with Zaha and Townsend supplying them.

Regards to benteke you can't keep doing the same thing and expect a different outcome anymore.

Edited by dannyboy1978 (19 Aug 2019 7.32am)

I don't know about Eyew may be we should try Eeyore up front......hold on ...wait a minute we already have a donkey there already.

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