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 Kermit8  Hevon 06 Oct 17 9.53am |
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Being a Tory gives some a sense of higher social standing, faux but in their imagination real. And so they do take it all rather seriously and don't like any criticism of The Party. Their Party. Because they have pyschological and emotional investment in it. Though why anyone would want to give up part of their soul to a major political party is beyond me. Odd but there you go.
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Rudi Hedman  Caterham 06 Oct 17 9.54am |
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Originally posted by Willo
Getting back 'On Track' by commenting on matters at 'Conference', Theresa May deserves credit for the resilience she showed in battling through to the end of her speech. She does, but it just adds to all the other shortcomings. You know, virtually no policies. Or policies already released, or copied from Labour.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 06 Oct 17 9.55am |
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Originally posted by Willo
And people will recognise the astonishing achievements of the Conservatives from record employment to polices which despite blatant Labour lies, have sharply narrowed the gap between rich and poor.And the Conservatives won their highest vote share for over 30 years. As for Brexit, these were always going to be complex negotations and it is a bit rich deriding Conservatives for Brexit when Labour keep flip-flopping from week to week regarding what they would do- in the single market out of the single market,in the customs union out of the customs union.Thank heavens we don't have them negotiating with the EU. Finally when I mentioned 'Mood music' I was referring to Boris and not the overall picture. Edited by Willo (06 Oct 2017 9.43am)
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Oct 17 10.01am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
She does, but it just adds to all the other shortcomings. You know, virtually no policies. Or policies already released, or copied from Labour. Thersa May's speech illustrated her brand of compassionate conservatism inspired by a vision that every generation should be better off than the last. She has promoted practical solutions within the contraints of the national debt to issues in our day-to-day life ie housing shortage,student debt and energy prices.Some may question whether her answers are right but they simply cannot question the decency of her motives. Anyway, I am sure all of this will be discussed at the CPF (Conservative Political Forum) I am attending later today. Edited by Willo (06 Oct 2017 10.08am)
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Oct 17 10.07am |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
I will not do a 'Gusset' by trawling the Internet for sites but can inform you that Labour, now engaged in a virulent class war is totally and utterly wrong when it claims the gap between rich and poor has widened. According to the independent 'Institute for Fiscal Studies' the gap has narrowed over the past decade, particularly in London this is because the Conservatives have given tax cuts to the poorly paid so that many, many don't pay Income Tax at all. Got to go out now with my wife prior to attending the CPF.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 06 Oct 17 10.08am |
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Originally posted by Willo
Thersa May's speech illustrated her brand of compassionate conservatism inspired by a vision that every generation should be better off than the last. She has promoted practical solutions within the contraints of the national debt to issues in our day-to-day life ie housing shortage,student debt and energy prices.Some may question whether her answers are right but they simply cannot question the decency of her motives. Anyway, I am sure all of this will be discussed at the CPF (Conservative Political Forum)I am attending later today. Well that's not going to happen. Your generation - half-decent house/flat in South London suburbia 1980 £17,000 to £32,000. Today's generation - same properties £250,00 - £500,000. Now remind me again who was in power in the 1980's when those Housing Acts came in that deregulated the market and messed up social housing for future generations so deeply?
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 06 Oct 17 10.11am |
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Originally posted by Willo
Thersa May's speech illustrated her brand of compassionate conservatism inspired by a vision that every generation should be better off than the last. She has promoted practical solutions within the contraints of the national debt to issues in our day-to-day life ie housing shortage,student debt and energy prices.Some may question whether her answers are right but they simply cannot question the decency of her motives. Anyway, I am sure all of this will be discussed at the CPF (Conservative Political Forum)I am attending later today. There was nothing noticeable and if the rest of the Tory party think like you that those 3 miniscule policies are worthy of leadership then you're mistaken. The 5,000 annual housing and student debt policies are so pathetic they may as well not bother. I didn't notice any vision and I haven't heard any commentators mentioning one either. David Mellor tore right into her yesterday. She blew it.
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 06 Oct 17 10.12am |
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Teresa May.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 06 Oct 17 10.17am |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Being a Tory gives some a sense of higher social standing, faux but in their imagination real. And so they do take it all rather seriously and don't like any criticism of The Party. Their Party. Because they have pyschological and emotional investment in it. Though why anyone would want to give up part of their soul to a major political party is beyond me. Odd but there you go. Pretty much. I see people posing in photos with Jeremy Hunt and I think that even if a Tory, don't have your photo taken with him. But they do. Unless every single friend and acquaintance agrees with the dismantling of the NHS you're opening yourself up for harsh words.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 06 Oct 17 10.19am |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
And Grenfell. Can't go near people who (did) live in the air. Cornwall, chips and ice cream is more her.
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| Lyons550 Shirley 06 Oct 17 10.24am |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
You did. You said no-one can legitimately interrupt the PM's speech. I was just pointing out that there is no law that support that statement. I think some on here seem to have had a bit of a sense of humour failure over it. Funny or not, it's not that big of a deal and calling him and others names is a bit OTT. It was a prank highlighting the infighting in the cabinet, the instability of the government and the fact that May is unfit for her job. It seems those for whom those truths are uncomfortable have taken this very badly! Rather than being funny...it still bemuses me that he's considered a comedian...it's a sad indictment that people feel the need to pull these stunts to get their point across due to the fact that they cant debate them...like most protests the argument is lost when you have to shout others down or detract from the issue at hand by trying to embarrass them instead....pretty pathetic really.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 06 Oct 17 10.24am |
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Originally posted by dannyh
Because Corbyn's such a dick already, it's not possible to make him look any more of a fcking idiot. It happened because she's in a precarious position without the authority of a PM. If Corbyn was making a hash of it, which he might, he'd be taken the p1ss out of (more). She's more of a fool than he is if she thinks that waste of time on Wednesday was credible even for a conference under no pressure. She's useless. Corbyn may (probably will in my view) try to take on too many issues we can't afford. But at least there's substance.
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