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Mapletree Croydon 05 Apr 23 10.56pm | |
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Here we go again boys and girls Scott Benton. Do the Tories have anyone in politics for vocational and altruistic reasons?
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Spiderman Horsham 06 Apr 23 10.16am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I don't use the forum much these days but occasionally I'll pop up if I think there is something important to say. For example, I think a lot of us become convinced that what a party might say to its base or public is what they actually implement and intend.....whereas, as in life, what someone actually does reveals the truth. There is what someone says and then there is what they do. For example, the very party that is meant to be representating the right in Britain, our very own Tory party has a home office that funds the very people opposing their Rwanda policy. It's not an accident as they could alter these funding decisions easily. So to go down the list on the very people that the taxpayer via the Home office is funding: The Refugee Council, the first signatory on the letter, was awarded £1,596,275 in the 2021/2022 financial year. Eight other charities also received funding despite vocal opposition to the Government: The Medaille Trust awarded £677,074 The Pickwell Foundation, awarded £384,704 Disability Rights UK, awarded £140,346 Advice NI, awarded £98,000 Race Equality Foundation, awarded £92,681 Asylum Welcome, awarded £59,417 Helen Bamber Foundation, awarded £6,000 Citizens of the World Choir, awarded £1,500 In total, the Government gave £3,055,997 in taxpayer cash to the very people opposing them. There is also a further 1.8 million that these open border 'charities' can apply for in March. As the saying goes. It's a circus. It's opinion management and nothing else. Look at what actually happens.....look at the statistics rather than the words and the real policies reveal the truth. I believe the HO are still one of the departments who are paying Stonewall to spout their drivel
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steeleye20 Croydon 06 Apr 23 12.07pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
In total, water firms in England discharged raw sewage into rivers 372,533 times in 2021. England & Wales are the only countries in the world to have a fully-privatised water system. They have never taken any notice of fines, govt agencies and the consumer is just there to pay bills and their shareholders. they are even allowed to monitor themselves often producing totally false figures that are picked up later. We have Thatcher to blame I think or John Major, but it's what we actually do now that matters, and its difficult to see that fining people will have any effect. Public ownership of water is not on Starmer's list, it was a priority of Corbyn.
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 06 Apr 23 8.01pm | |
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We are now reaping the benefits of the Privatisation of companies we all used to own. Put into private hands by the Tories. And the elites getting richer and blaming the working classes for their Governmental failures in looking after the population.
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cryrst The garden of England 06 Apr 23 8.15pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
England & Wales are the only countries in the world to have a fully-privatised water system. They have never taken any notice of fines, govt agencies and the consumer is just there to pay bills and their shareholders. they are even allowed to monitor themselves often producing totally false figures that are picked up later. We have Thatcher to blame I think or John Major, but it's what we actually do now that matters, and its difficult to see that fining people will have any effect. Public ownership of water is not on Starmer's list, it was a priority of Corbyn. Didn’t labour have 12 years in power after them ?
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steeleye20 Croydon 06 Apr 23 8.52pm | |
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Nationally, Labour can be proud of much of their record on housing between 1997 and 2010. • Under Labour, the number of home-owners rose by over a million and built almost two million homes between 1997-2010 • Labour undertook the biggest affordable housing investment programme in a generation, committing £9.3bn over three years from 2008 and adding an extra £1.5bn in 2009 • More than 40,000 new social rented homes were built in the last year of the last Labour Government. In 2009, Labour launched the biggest council house building programme for over two decades. • After years of high homelessness under the Tories, Labour cut homelessness by almost two-thirds between 1998 to 2010. • After two decades of Tory neglect, Labour introduced the Decent Homes standard and made £22bn of public investment in decent homes, improving the housing conditions of over 1.4m council homes. By 2009, 86% of all council and housing association homes were brought up to a decent standard • When the global financial crisis and world-wide downturn struck, Labour stepped in to help home-owners stay in their homes. Despite the much deeper scale of the recession, Labour’s mortgage rescue scheme meant that repossessions were over I would describe the tories record on housing since 2010 but its too awful to even contemplate.
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Spiderman Horsham 06 Apr 23 9.25pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Didn’t labour have 12 years in power after them ? Don’t be silly
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Stirlingsays 06 Apr 23 10.18pm | |
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Wow, reading Steely shilling for the Blair years is quite something. Most of those statistics are just spun rubbish but he's happy to cut and paste it. Should just hang up his communist card after that.
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steeleye20 Croydon 06 Apr 23 10.33pm | |
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Tories fail to build any of 200,000 starter homes promised in 2015, says watchdog. Or any houses at all - Andrew Neill to Liz Truss. The worst of all the privatisation disasters council housing, the Thatcher dream of home ownership a shattered dream to our young people. Living in rented squalor a reality for many, unable to afford the rent or heating. 13 years of the tories.
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georgenorman 07 Apr 23 7.06am | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Tories fail to build any of 200,000 starter homes promised in 2015, says watchdog. Or any houses at all - Andrew Neill to Liz Truss. The worst of all the privatisation disasters council housing, the Thatcher dream of home ownership a shattered dream to our young people. Living in rented squalor a reality for many, unable to afford the rent or heating. 13 years of the tories. Did you work at Pravda - or the Beano?
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cryrst The garden of England 07 Apr 23 9.28am | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Nationally, Labour can be proud of much of their record on housing between 1997 and 2010. • Under Labour, the number of home-owners rose by over a million and built almost two million homes between 1997-2010 • Labour undertook the biggest affordable housing investment programme in a generation, committing £9.3bn over three years from 2008 and adding an extra £1.5bn in 2009 • More than 40,000 new social rented homes were built in the last year of the last Labour Government. In 2009, Labour launched the biggest council house building programme for over two decades. • After years of high homelessness under the Tories, Labour cut homelessness by almost two-thirds between 1998 to 2010. • After two decades of Tory neglect, Labour introduced the Decent Homes standard and made £22bn of public investment in decent homes, improving the housing conditions of over 1.4m council homes. By 2009, 86% of all council and housing association homes were brought up to a decent standard • When the global financial crisis and world-wide downturn struck, Labour stepped in to help home-owners stay in their homes. Despite the much deeper scale of the recession, Labour’s mortgage rescue scheme meant that repossessions were over I would describe the tories record on housing since 2010 but its too awful to even contemplate.
The tories have just spent 500 billion on covid help and recently the cost of living ‘crisis’ and illegal immigrants. Is that not what a hmg is meant to do? Help its and others citizens.
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Matov 07 Apr 23 10.19am | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Did you work at Pravda - or the Beano?
Now I will, by force of habit, repeat my current mantra of hang every politician in our current farce of a system, irrelevant of whatever rosette they hide behind but we live in a country ripped to bits by the Conservatives. We have a Tory government who can literally do whatever they want given the size of their majority. They choose to do nothing. Accept that and a whole new world view opens up. This Lab/Con dichotomy is the current root of what is so wrong about the UK. No longer Blue. And never Red.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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