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Mapletree Flag Croydon 05 Apr 23 10.56pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Here we go again boys and girls

Scott Benton. Do the Tories have anyone in politics for vocational and altruistic reasons?

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 06 Apr 23 10.16am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I don't use the forum much these days but occasionally I'll pop up if I think there is something important to say.

For example, I think a lot of us become convinced that what a party might say to its base or public is what they actually implement and intend.....whereas, as in life, what someone actually does reveals the truth.

There is what someone says and then there is what they do.

For example, the very party that is meant to be representating the right in Britain, our very own Tory party has a home office that funds the very people opposing their Rwanda policy. It's not an accident as they could alter these funding decisions easily.

So to go down the list on the very people that the taxpayer via the Home office is funding:

The Refugee Council, the first signatory on the letter, was awarded £1,596,275 in the 2021/2022 financial year.

Eight other charities also received funding despite vocal opposition to the Government:

The Medaille Trust awarded £677,074

The Pickwell Foundation, awarded £384,704

Disability Rights UK, awarded £140,346

Advice NI, awarded £98,000

Race Equality Foundation, awarded £92,681

Asylum Welcome, awarded £59,417

Helen Bamber Foundation, awarded £6,000

Citizens of the World Choir, awarded £1,500

In total, the Government gave £3,055,997 in taxpayer cash to the very people opposing them.

There is also a further 1.8 million that these open border 'charities' can apply for in March.

As the saying goes. It's a circus. It's opinion management and nothing else.

Look at what actually happens.....look at the statistics rather than the words and the real policies reveal the truth.

I believe the HO are still one of the departments who are paying Stonewall to spout their drivel

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 06 Apr 23 12.07pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

In total, water firms in England discharged raw sewage into rivers 372,533 times in 2021.

England & Wales are the only countries in the world to have a fully-privatised water system.

They have never taken any notice of fines, govt agencies and the consumer is just there to pay bills and their shareholders.

they are even allowed to monitor themselves often producing totally false figures that are picked up later.

We have Thatcher to blame I think or John Major, but it's what we actually do now that matters, and its difficult to see that fining people will have any effect.

Public ownership of water is not on Starmer's list, it was a priority of Corbyn.

 

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 06 Apr 23 8.01pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

We are now reaping the benefits of the Privatisation of companies we all used to own. Put into private hands by the Tories.
5hlt filled rivers and beaches
soaring energy bills
Loads of Council subsidiaries(Council departments that were privatised), failing. Things like social care, old people's homes etc.
"Care in the community", where mentally ill people were put on the streets
Affordable housing stock is non-existent, with people being forced to rent.
The first recorded suicide of a teacher directly due to OFSTED.
Not enough prison space for all the police that are going to be prosecuted for abuse of power.

And the elites getting richer and blaming the working classes for their Governmental failures in looking after the population.

 


I disengage, I turn the page.

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 06 Apr 23 8.15pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

England & Wales are the only countries in the world to have a fully-privatised water system.

They have never taken any notice of fines, govt agencies and the consumer is just there to pay bills and their shareholders.

they are even allowed to monitor themselves often producing totally false figures that are picked up later.

We have Thatcher to blame I think or John Major, but it's what we actually do now that matters, and its difficult to see that fining people will have any effect.

Public ownership of water is not on Starmer's list, it was a priority of Corbyn.

Didn’t labour have 12 years in power after them ?

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 06 Apr 23 8.52pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Nationally, Labour can be proud of much of their record on housing between 1997 and 2010.

• Under Labour, the number of home-owners rose by over a million and built almost two million homes between 1997-2010

• Labour undertook the biggest affordable housing investment programme in a generation, committing £9.3bn over three years from 2008 and adding an extra £1.5bn in 2009

• More than 40,000 new social rented homes were built in the last year of the last Labour Government. In 2009, Labour launched the biggest council house building programme for over two decades.

• After years of high homelessness under the Tories, Labour cut homelessness by almost two-thirds between 1998 to 2010.

• After two decades of Tory neglect, Labour introduced the Decent Homes standard and made £22bn of public investment in decent homes, improving the housing conditions of over 1.4m council homes. By 2009, 86% of all council and housing association homes were brought up to a decent standard

• When the global financial crisis and world-wide downturn struck, Labour stepped in to help home-owners stay in their homes. Despite the much deeper scale of the recession, Labour’s mortgage rescue scheme meant that repossessions were over
a third lower than in 1991 with the Tories, when Government did little to help and over 75,000 homes were repossessed.

I would describe the tories record on housing since 2010 but its too awful to even contemplate.

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 06 Apr 23 9.25pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Didn’t labour have 12 years in power after them ?

Don’t be silly

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 06 Apr 23 10.18pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Wow, reading Steely shilling for the Blair years is quite something.

Most of those statistics are just spun rubbish but he's happy to cut and paste it.

Should just hang up his communist card after that.

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 06 Apr 23 10.33pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Tories fail to build any of 200,000 starter homes promised in 2015, says watchdog.

Or any houses at all - Andrew Neill to Liz Truss.

The worst of all the privatisation disasters council housing, the Thatcher dream of home ownership a shattered dream to our young people.

Living in rented squalor a reality for many, unable to afford the rent or heating.

13 years of the tories.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 07 Apr 23 7.06am Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Tories fail to build any of 200,000 starter homes promised in 2015, says watchdog.

Or any houses at all - Andrew Neill to Liz Truss.

The worst of all the privatisation disasters council housing, the Thatcher dream of home ownership a shattered dream to our young people.

Living in rented squalor a reality for many, unable to afford the rent or heating.

13 years of the tories.

Did you work at Pravda - or the Beano?

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 07 Apr 23 9.28am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Nationally, Labour can be proud of much of their record on housing between 1997 and 2010.

• Under Labour, the number of home-owners rose by over a million and built almost two million homes between 1997-2010

• Labour undertook the biggest affordable housing investment programme in a generation, committing £9.3bn over three years from 2008 and adding an extra £1.5bn in 2009

• More than 40,000 new social rented homes were built in the last year of the last Labour Government. In 2009, Labour launched the biggest council house building programme for over two decades.

• After years of high homelessness under the Tories, Labour cut homelessness by almost two-thirds between 1998 to 2010.

• After two decades of Tory neglect, Labour introduced the Decent Homes standard and made £22bn of public investment in decent homes, improving the housing conditions of over 1.4m council homes. By 2009, 86% of all council and housing association homes were brought up to a decent standard

• When the global financial crisis and world-wide downturn struck, Labour stepped in to help home-owners stay in their homes. Despite the much deeper scale of the recession, Labour’s mortgage rescue scheme meant that repossessions were over
a third lower than in 1991 with the Tories, when Government did little to help and over 75,000 homes were repossessed.

I would describe the tories record on housing since 2010 but its too awful to even contemplate.

The tories have just spent 500 billion on covid help and recently the cost of living ‘crisis’ and illegal immigrants. Is that not what a hmg is meant to do? Help its and others citizens.
I was repossessed during the time you mentioned and got a council flat eventually.
Now got my own home. I never shouted about a lack of help, I took it on the chin like a grown up should. This life thing isn’t meant to be easy, if you want that then go to Waco and be brainwashed, oh hang on you are on the left so you already are !

 

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Matov Flag 07 Apr 23 10.19am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Did you work at Pravda - or the Beano?


But he is right. This is the point. The Tories have reneged on promise after promise.

Now I will, by force of habit, repeat my current mantra of hang every politician in our current farce of a system, irrelevant of whatever rosette they hide behind but we live in a country ripped to bits by the Conservatives.

We have a Tory government who can literally do whatever they want given the size of their majority. They choose to do nothing.

Accept that and a whole new world view opens up. This Lab/Con dichotomy is the current root of what is so wrong about the UK.

No longer Blue. And never Red.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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