And that is why they are in the mess they are in now, political infighting and the blame game.

Within any political party there are jobs which should be above the fray such as the running of the party (not the policies). The people in that office should be strong enough to stand up to the leader as he is temporary but they need to represent all sides of the party who one day may be in power. A civil service if you like.

The internal report that was leaked recently showed staff members withholding funds for key marginals and actively prolonging disciplinary proceedings to make the party look bad. This isn't conjecture, it's fact.

Labour has now lost the last 4 elections - with leaders from every side of the party - and these people have faced no accountability whatsoever.

The decision today is f*cking idiocy - and I know you may think that's me saying it as a lefty, but think about the context. Unite, which is the single biggest donor to the Labour party, have put their funding into question recently. Today's decision will almost certainly mean that Starmer will lose that money. Thousand and thousands of members are also going to leave, adding another massive hole in the party finances.

It would seem as if the ground is therefore ripe for a new left wing party, which would be the nightmare of all nightmares for Starmer, because it would effectively end any chance of him becoming PM. The money's there, the activists are there, and now the anger is there.

They could have just let Corbyn see out his last few years from the backbench before retirement, watched the internal struggles blow over as leftists lost interest and still picked up their apathetic votes come election day because hey, we're never going to vote Tory. But they didn't, because they had their petty vendettas, and about as much political nous as flaccid c*ck.

100%. Quite staggering. And many of those staff members then left the Labour Party and took up posts with the Peoples Vote campaign. Remember them? LOL.

Your boy Corbyn must have scared the s*** out of the powers that be in 2017. Absolutely caused them to cack their pants. 40% of the vote he pulled in. LOL. Ed Milibands entire strategy in 2015 had been to get 35%.

But then t***s like you had to be all precious about Brexit. Think you knew it all. That somehow what people really wanted was to have to go through the farce of a second referendum again. And Starmer is the cheer leader. Going against agreed Shadow Cabinet policy in that speech he gave at the 2018 at conference. Directly contradicting what had been said by Corbyn and McDonnell in the run up to it.

They should have sacked Starmer there and then. Pledged to honour the Brexit vote like they had in 2017. Stuck by their guns. Honoured the most basic of democratic principles.

Instead they just cracked. Lost their bottle. Allowed Starmer and Thornberry to come up with the worst possible of all stances on a second referendum. Thornberry even boasting how she was going to get a deal, put that on the ballot, and then vote against it. You could not make this s*** up if you tried. A policy GUARANTEED to lose them any general election fought on it. The electoral maths smacking you in the face, the basic reality of England & Wales voting on a constiuency basis of 73 to 27 in favour of Brexit. And the a country sick to death of it all. With Labour just promising more of the same, none of which would have settled anything.

And Labour get f***ed. Absolutely rogered. Lose seats that have never been anything else other than nailed on Labour. Blowing majorities in excess of 10,000. Utter catestrophy.

Here we are, less than a year later. Starmer is leading the very party whose electoral defeat he masterminded and has now suspened the man who got 40% of the vote in 2017. Who engineered the biggest swing (or so I believe) ever achieved in a general election. And suspending Corbyn.

Beautiful. I do love a political shenanigan but this tops them all. Popcorn on order, deckchair in place and all ready to watch you Lefties, after a few hysterics, fall into place with it all.

Or will you surprise me? Actually show some cajones? I suspect not but would loved to see it.

Charming.

I have always said I took no side on Brexit. In fact I was leaning towards voting for it but in the end felt the whole thing was futile.

If we want to build a political project for localism, democracy and for the benefit of citizens, we need to create something people engage in. Otherwise you end up with the Tories or Blairism, where a tiny cabal of people work for the benefit of big finance.

Corbynism was as close as we have come in decades. Mass membership, local activism, and getting ordinary people involved in the political process. It terrified the status quo, and that's why they have now ruthlessly disposed of him. But the millions who made that project haven't gone away, and are more than capable of building something again.

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I sympathise with much that you say now and in your previous posts but there's no doubt we disagree about JC. Corbynism became a cult for a minority of Labour supporters fed by Momentum and in turn ostracised a lot of core long-term members such as myself.

I gave JC my support when he was elected but his obsession with the Israel/Palestine problem and not acting swiftly and firmly over the undoubted cases of antisemitism inside the party meant that I could not support him.

Putting aside the Labour MPs who resigned over antisemitism I know other Jewish Labour members who felt they could not support JC and his followers and have left the party feeling deeply hurt. Some of the antisemitic statements made by people who identified themselves as JC supporters are utterly indefensible.

Like many others I want a Labour Party capable of being elected and putting into practice core Labour values. Starmer has suspended JC and some might see that as a foolish act as it will antagonise JC supporters. I think it's a pragmatic act in the same way that Kinnock kicked Militant Tendency out of the party.

Time to move on from JC and Momentum. Time for Labour supporters to support the party and not a faction.

By the way, if anyone wants a good laugh, go and have a look at the Facebook page 'We Support Jeremy Corbyn'. A refugee for the truly delusional.