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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 16 Sep 23 9.01am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
It’s obvious that it translates to ‘trump bad ‘ Of course it doesn’t.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Sep 23 9.04am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You are comedy gold Wisbech. You have always had a weird sense of humour alongside your weird ideas.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Sep 23 9.05am |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Must be very conflicting for a BBC loving Trump hater Not in the least. It’s a statement of truth. Sad but true.
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| eaglesdare 07 Oct 23 11.11pm |
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We had peace under trump.
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| Stirlingsays 07 Oct 23 11.34pm |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
We had peace under trump. I know, I remember what the left said about fearing him starting WW3. You couldn't make it up. These people are a nightmare.....couldn't run a lemonade stand properly let alone a superpower. They make bad decision after bad decision and then blame everybody else. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Oct 2023 11.35pm)
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| Badger11 Beckenham 08 Oct 23 7.54am |
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Lots of jokes on X about Kamala Harris at the moment which prompts me to speculate. How bad do you have to be as a politician, to be VP to a doddering senile old fool who may not even run, and still not be the anointed candidate of your own party. I don't follow US politics that much but I have not seen a KH for President movement so I am guessing that the Democrats will either nominate Old Man Joe or anyone but her. Edited by Badger11 (08 Oct 2023 7.56am)
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| Badger11 Beckenham 08 Oct 23 8.26am |
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I have seen several articles about the civil case in NY accusing Trump of fraud brought by the NY AG. Trump is accused of artificially inflating his wealth in order to obtain a better deal with the banks. The main points of these articles was this. Charge. Trump is accused of inflating his wealth when talking to the Forbes 500 wealthiest people list. Answer. So what it's a magazine article with no legal bearing. If he did exaggerate it's no different to the bloke down the pub bragging about how much money he has. Besides Forbes have their own investigators as quite often "The Rich" refuse to co-operate with them so why didn't they challenge that number. Charge. Trump did the same with the banks to get loans. Answer. Similar to above, if he did the banks don't except what people say at face value so what investigations did they do. Besides Trump has not defaulted on payment so where are the victims. Charge. The judge has just ruled that his Mar a Lago property is only worth between $18-25m not the $400m that Trump claims. This lower valuation the judge accepted comes from a local political appointee so no bias there.. According to the author of the article who has actually been to Trumps property he think that Trump has undervalued it and it is worth closer to a $1bn. Two things to bear in mind Palm Beach is one of the most expensive areas in the US. And secondly this is not just a house but an estate including prestigious golf course with memberships costs of £200k pa. A similar sized property down the road went for $400m. Once again I am not a fan of trump but this stinks.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Oct 23 8.38pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I have seen several articles about the civil case in NY accusing Trump of fraud brought by the NY AG. Trump is accused of artificially inflating his wealth in order to obtain a better deal with the banks. The main points of these articles was this. Charge. Trump is accused of inflating his wealth when talking to the Forbes 500 wealthiest people list. Answer. So what it's a magazine article with no legal bearing. If he did exaggerate it's no different to the bloke down the pub bragging about how much money he has. Besides Forbes have their own investigators as quite often "The Rich" refuse to co-operate with them so why didn't they challenge that number. Charge. Trump did the same with the banks to get loans. Answer. Similar to above, if he did the banks don't except what people say at face value so what investigations did they do. Besides Trump has not defaulted on payment so where are the victims. Charge. The judge has just ruled that his Mar a Lago property is only worth between -25m not the 0m that Trump claims. This lower valuation the judge accepted comes from a local political appointee so no bias there.. According to the author of the article who has actually been to Trumps property he think that Trump has undervalued it and it is worth closer to a bn. Two things to bear in mind Palm Beach is one of the most expensive areas in the US. And secondly this is not just a house but an estate including prestigious golf course with memberships costs of £200k pa. A similar sized property down the road went for 0m. Once again I am not a fan of trump but this stinks.
Opinions obviously vary and any lender has the responsibility to do their own due diligence. That’s clearly true. There are opinions and there are accepted market norms. So there must be something else involved here, that we have not seen the evidence for. Trump and his co accused are charged with repeatedly cooking the books in order to get advantageous loans so my guess is that they must have falsified records to substantiate claims. Pulling huge con tricks seems to match the character involved. The Judge has already ruled that fraud exists. So we will have to see where this goes.
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cryrst  The garden of England 08 Oct 23 9.28pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Opinions obviously vary and any lender has the responsibility to do their own due diligence. That’s clearly true. There are opinions and there are accepted market norms. So there must be something else involved here, that we have not seen the evidence for. Trump and his co accused are charged with repeatedly cooking the books in order to get advantageous loans so my guess is that they must have falsified records to substantiate claims. Pulling huge con tricks seems to match the character involved. The Judge has already ruled that fraud exists. So we will have to see where this goes. Due diligence should supersede whatever trump may have claimed. Smoke and mirrors. Anyone but trump !
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Oct 23 11.21pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Due diligence should supersede whatever trump may have claimed. Smoke and mirrors. Anyone but trump ! It does but that is no defence against fraud. Until we know what has actually happened we have very little evidence to make any kind of assessment.
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| cryrst The garden of England 09 Oct 23 5.59am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It does but that is no defence against fraud. Until we know what has actually happened we have very little evidence to make any kind of assessment. You’ve had trump as guilty from day one so that’s not true for everyone’s opinion!
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| Stirlingsays 09 Oct 23 3.19pm |
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America makes 5 trillion and spends 7 trillion annually. Running a 2 trillion budget is an economic crime and this has been going on for so long it can't be fixed. They will let the cards fall rather than try to.....Then whoever isn't in power will blame the other lot. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Oct 2023 3.23pm)
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