Isolated Fenland, where inbreeding is acceptable, is the literal embodiment of disfigurement.

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Wasn't aware of fenlands in pakistan.

Red and Blue Army!

But his people get to be 'unique'.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Dec 2023 8.03pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Unless there has been a revolutionary change of attitude, or people, in the years since I lived in Fenland the stereotypes, albeit rare, still exist. Some seriously out of touch people's around there who make Cornwall look like a modern paradise.

Which has nothing to do with Ukraine. If you discount the Russians who invaded the Fens using Latvian, Lithuanian or Estonian passports. Can’t trust the Russians.

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Russia took another town today....one that's been fought over since 2014.

Russia continues to gain ground on most fronts in Ukraine.

The inability of neo cons to realise that their day has past and that the ground swell of people who use to support their ideas is far lower now is partly why this war happened in the first place.

I said at the start that Russia would always hold the upper hand in this war for several reasons but fools had to go with high risk, no reward....because the only thing we gain here is having to rebuild and fund Ukraine.....When we can't even fund our own country properly.

Wars are incredibly damaging for all of us and I can only hope that when the settlement happens that some reflection is taken on how this madness was arrived at.

I won't hold my breath.

I use to be very pro American foreign policy but I've long since realised that while most Americans themselves are our brothers.....that country isn't run for the average American on the street....it's run by 'special interests' and highly dishonest and ruinous people, especially in the state and certain other departments.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Dec 2023 11.47pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Much damage is caused by control freaks over estimating their abilities and capacities and thus making situations much worse than could have been....then because they hold the megaphone and can censor whether it's in Russia or the west they get to convince people that they are the good guys.

That is essentially the human nature analysis here.

America don't get to dictate to Russia how they should relate to border countries. Just as Russia don't tell America what their border relations need to be.

The point has been made many times...If Russia had spent time and money convincing Canada or Mexico to elect an anti American government that was going to ally with Russia against the Americans then America would have behaved in precisely the same fashion that Russia did.

There is historical precedence for what I say here. America spent time and money and backed an invasion of Cuba to try to get rid of the regime there....exactly because it had allied with the Soviets.

Indeed, only when the freshly elected Kennedy took over had a change of heart and had to convince and change foreign policy did US support for that that Cuban invasion get canned and thus defeated.

America has interfered with and changed the regimes of many countries around the world. There is zero morality in these state policies, only presumed national self interest.

So when I hear these cold war attitudes that get backed up with morality fables I know exactly what I'm hearing.

Lies and half truths.

But far worse than the fact than that is what the actual outcomes are....These guys worsen the status quo and then claim otherwise. They take a sh1t in your back yard and then claim they are growing your roses.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Dec 2023 1.44am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)