As ever Candace Owens nails it:

"A Democrat candidate with the courage to look black people in the face and tell us what they really think, which is 'don’t ask questions, and vote for me because you are black'.

Can we all just take a moment to pause and consider the media reaction if @realdonaldtrump said this to a black person that asked him about his policies? Or if Trump said 'ain’t' as opposed to to 'are not', simply because he was speaking to a black man. Does @cthagod not understand English? Can anybody find a clip of @joebiden saying 'ain’t' when speaking to a white man? This is plantation-politics at its finest.

I’m not outraged or upset, because this clip is everything I’ve been screaming about for the last 3 years; Democrats view black people as trained chimpanzees who should perform the same circus act at the polls every 4 years to empower wealthy white liberals. Quite frankly, if you are black and you can’t see that by now, then maybe 'you ain’t smart'

Been honored these last 3 years to have spent considerable time with POTUS and his entire immediate family. Never, not once, has any one of them ever spoken to me in broken English. They speak to me how they speak to every single person that they encounter, no matter what skin color."

Edited by Penge Eagle (23 May 2020 1.22pm)

Genuinely do not know. Done some research (and yes I am that sad) into how the Democrats could pull such a stunt and there does appear to be a way. Key to it could be who Biden names as his VP running candidate.

But it is all rather murky at the moment. Many on the Left in the US are pulling their hair out about Biden because he clearly has issues and this latest faux-pas plays right into Trumps hands. It is not neccessarily about his words driving African-Americans into voting for Trump but rather about discouraging them to vote at all.

I genuinely cannot see him being in the frame come November. I could well be wrong and the polling in the US does have him beating Trump but then again the same was said about Hillary. And still don't rule her out.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

If they did then I would hold genuine fears about a second US civil war breaking out. I think the US is currently a lot more brittle than people realise and a stunt like that...

That is not to say the Clintons would not be involved in what plays out but she would be too divisive. I suspect they would go with an African-American but somebody deemed to be unifying because they would need to deal with the legitimacy question in terms of the election itself.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

I very much doubt that. They have rather more important local priorities at the moment, which weren't around during the Kavanaugh hearings.

I have read the profile of the interviewer and yes, it might have been tongue in cheek goading but this is a big nothing. Except in the political point-scoring game.

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If you could be bothered to read back through my posts I was suggesting this possibility quite a few weeks ago. I think the DMC see getting rid of Trump as the overwhelming priority and have called what amounts to a national emergency to achieve it.

They knew that if Sanders stood the floating voters would not be so likely to vote for him so managed to kick him off. They also know Biden won't do well in one to one TV debates but for the time being he can hold the line. Then he will get sick or have some other reason to be forced to withdraw.

Who is chosen as VP now becomes vital as they would be the obvious replacement.

I am pretty sure it won't be Hillary. Too much baggage! Don't think it will be Michelle Obama either. Her lack of public office experience would be exploited.

I do though think it will be a woman. Amy Klobuchar looks like the most likely to me, and is now undergoing vetting. However, don't write off Kamala Harris. She is young, smart and has another obvious appeal.

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Most of the developed world has a modern liberal democracy. We do.

The bs over globalisation is responsible for a lot, on that I can certainly agree. It has been exploited by both the left and the right to justify their own positions, but particularly so by the populists.

And it is complete bs but maybe this is not the thread to debate why. You ought not fear what you cannot change. You need to embrace it and make it work for you.

Obviously I hope there isn't blood shed over this but I acknowledge how tricky it is going to be to manage. I have enough contact with my American friends to know how entrenched their opinions are, how blind to reason but how flimsy their arguments are. One guy yesterday told me that, despite all the evidence I gave him to the contrary, he still believed 95% of everything Alex Jones says.

My objections to Brexit were 100% based on the fundamental democratic principals which exist in the UK, despite all the baloney to the contrary. Referendums are not part of our system and when there is evidence, as there undoubtedly was, that the result was manipulated by outside interference (as the unpublished report by our security forces will no doubt confirm) then they really ought not be trusted. Parliament is the ONLY place in which true trust in our democracy can be vested.

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