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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 19 Nov 16 12.15pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

....and huge swathes of the Labour party have never worked a meaningful job. I always say trade union shop floor stewards a bit like site agents on construction sites are purely there because on the whole they are incapable of doing their original job to a satisfactory level.


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Originally posted by nickgusset

And they do. Many labour members are also trade unionists who give up their time to ensure both the workforce and management are happy with pay structures and working conditions. If that isn't helping the working man or woman, I don't know what is.

I;m all for fair working conditions but look where union power got us in the 70's. The sick man of Europe. There has to be balance and under old Labour the likes of Jim Callaghan nearly brought this country to it's knees. That is why we had Thatcher and Blair.People were sick of industrial action, inflation and Britain being a laughing stock. We can't go back there with Jeremy Corbyn.

 

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Hoof Hearted 19 Nov 16 12.19pm

What Do We Want?.........

A Hard Brexit

When do we want it?........

Next March!

 

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Hoof Hearted 19 Nov 16 12.22pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I;m all for fair working conditions but look where union power got us in the 70's. The sick man of Europe. There has to be balance and under old Labour the likes of Jim Callaghan nearly brought this country to it's knees. That is why we had Thatcher and Blair.People were sick of industrial action, inflation and Britain being a laughing stock. We can't go back there with Jeremy Corbyn.

To quote Cucking.....

"The unions in the 70's had us in a tailspin even Biggles couldn't pull out of!"

 

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.TUX. Flag 19 Nov 16 12.53pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I;m all for fair working conditions but look where union power got us in the 70's. The sick man of Europe. There has to be balance and under old Labour the likes of Jim Callaghan nearly brought this country to it's knees. That is why we had Thatcher and Blair.People were sick of industrial action, inflation and Britain being a laughing stock. We can't go back there with Jeremy Corbyn.

Nothing whatsoever to do with Labour but everything to do with the previous PM Edward Heath, Conservative, and the credit control rules that governed the Bank of England being 'relaxed'.
Chuck a GLOBAL energy crisis into the mix and hey presto, things were bad for a while.
Is there anything you won't blame Labour for?

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 19 Nov 16 1.02pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by .TUX.

Nothing whatsoever to do with Labour but everything to do with the previous PM Edward Heath, Conservative, and the credit control rules that governed the Bank of England being 'relaxed'.
Chuck a GLOBAL energy crisis into the mix and hey presto, things were bad for a while.
Is there anything you won't blame Labour for?


You have got to be joking.

Inflation was fueled by ridiculous pay rises that Jim Calllaghan signed off. Heath tried his best to stablise things during his spell but the dinosaur left had other ideas.

Were you alive back then?

 

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legaleagle Flag 19 Nov 16 1.21pm

Were you alive back then?

The cause was the "Barber boom",courtesy of Ted Heath and his Chancellor,Anthony Barber.

"The Bank of England deregulated the mortgage market - meaning High Street Banks could now lend mortgages (not just local building societies). This helped fuel a rise in house prices and consumer wealth.
Barber Boom of 1972. In the 1972 budget, the chancellor Anthony Barber made a dash for growth - with large tax cuts against a backdrop of high economic growth.
Growth of Credit. It was in the 1970s, we saw the first mass use of credit cards (Access). This helped create a consumer bubble".

...which led to 20% inflation..which led to the wage demands...

and,of course,we can still see today what a great idea the deregulation of the mortgage market and the growth of consumer credit has been

But,don't let any of that stand in the way of knee jerk "leftie" bashing

 

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.TUX. Flag 19 Nov 16 1.27pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


You have got to be joking.

Inflation was fueled by ridiculous pay rises that Jim Calllaghan signed off. Heath tried his best to stablise things during his spell but the dinosaur left had other ideas.

Were you alive back then?

............the Bank of England printing money like it was going out of fashion once 'the handcuffs' had been removed.
And yeah, mum let me strike the match that lit the candles.

 


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Originally posted by .TUX.

............the Bank of England printing money like it was going out of fashion once 'the handcuffs' had been removed.
And yeah, mum let me strike the match that lit the candles.

I remember it differently. Strike, strike, strike, pay rise, pay rise, pay rise.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 19 Nov 16 1.46pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by legaleagle

Were you alive back then?

The cause was the "Barber boom",courtesy of Ted Heath and his Chancellor,Anthony Barber.

"The Bank of England deregulated the mortgage market - meaning High Street Banks could now lend mortgages (not just local building societies). This helped fuel a rise in house prices and consumer wealth.
Barber Boom of 1972. In the 1972 budget, the chancellor Anthony Barber made a dash for growth - with large tax cuts against a backdrop of high economic growth.
Growth of Credit. It was in the 1970s, we saw the first mass use of credit cards (Access). This helped create a consumer bubble".

...which led to 20% inflation..which led to the wage demands...

and,of course,we can still see today what a great idea the deregulation of the mortgage market and the growth of consumer credit has been

But,don't let any of that stand in the way of knee jerk "leftie" bashing

So you are blaming the Tories for prosperity and the ability to buy your own home? Terrible.

So tell me. Why didn't Jim Callahan sort this terrible mess out when he was in power?
The country was handcuffed to rigid working practices and Union power from the usual suspects. Miners, car builders etc. Thatcher brought us out of the dark ages and the unions only had themselves to blame. They took on the government and that time they lost heavily with thousands of workers paying the price by losing their lifetime jobs.

 

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chris123 Flag hove actually 19 Nov 16 1.52pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by legaleagle

Were you alive back then?

The cause was the "Barber boom",courtesy of Ted Heath and his Chancellor,Anthony Barber.

"The Bank of England deregulated the mortgage market - meaning High Street Banks could now lend mortgages (not just local building societies). This helped fuel a rise in house prices and consumer wealth.
Barber Boom of 1972. In the 1972 budget, the chancellor Anthony Barber made a dash for growth - with large tax cuts against a backdrop of high economic growth.
Growth of Credit. It was in the 1970s, we saw the first mass use of credit cards (Access). This helped create a consumer bubble".

...which led to 20% inflation..which led to the wage demands...

and,of course,we can still see today what a great idea the deregulation of the mortgage market and the growth of consumer credit has been

But,don't let any of that stand in the way of knee jerk "leftie" bashing

Big bang was in the 80's surely?

 

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.TUX. Flag 19 Nov 16 1.57pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I remember it differently. Strike, strike, strike, pay rise, pay rise, pay rise.

All due to the massive inflation that had begun under Heath. To be fair to Heath though, the decision to end our money supply being linked to gold wasn't his and he was powerless to do anything about it (no PM at the time (or anytime) could've as it was taken by those with the real power, the Central Banks).
Since the early 70's and the end of the Bretton Woods system, things for 'us' have slowly got worse financially, not better, as many seem to think.

 


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