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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 17 Nov 16 3.04pm

Originally posted by Stuk

I don't agree. It's like saying no one should be self employed.

Most private landlords pay their taxes on the income, where almost no one does is the short term lets - like Airbnb.

Most private landlords with one or two properties rarely paid tax on the income, unless HMRC comes knocking and for a long time they didn't. Income just wasn't declared, it was easy to pay it into various different accounts. HMRC have been tightening up big time in recent years, but in the past three decades its been easy street for landlords compared to any other business.

Having a business with assets that are worth 300-400,000 each it seems odd to be self employed outside of a limited company. Its a bit different than someone who does a bit of trade.

 


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Stuk Flag Top half 17 Nov 16 4.55pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Most private landlords with one or two properties rarely paid tax on the income, unless HMRC comes knocking and for a long time they didn't. Income just wasn't declared, it was easy to pay it into various different accounts. HMRC have been tightening up big time in recent years, but in the past three decades its been easy street for landlords compared to any other business.

Having a business with assets that are worth 300-400,000 each it seems odd to be self employed outside of a limited company. Its a bit different than someone who does a bit of trade.

That's a lot of cash to "lose", and as a lot of them had loans against the properties, it'd mostly be declared. Probably more income avoided by people who house share or rent rooms out to friends etc.

Everything has been easier to not fully declare in the last 30 years, compared to now. People were getting paid cash in the 80s.

 


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Sportyteacher Flag London 18 Nov 16 7.56pm Send a Private Message to Sportyteacher Add Sportyteacher as a friend

Originally posted by matt_himself

I find it ironic that you and Michael claim so much to hate 'prejudice' and yet demonstrate your own prejudices so often and consistently.

No, we don't. We just try to see the bigger picture.

 

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matt_himself Flag Matataland 18 Nov 16 8.15pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

No, we don't. We just try to see the bigger picture.

No. You are political snobs who show distain for the elements of society you claim to support, like Emily Thornbury or Shami Chakribarti have done with snipes at white van man and Essex man.

 


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chris123 Flag hove actually 18 Nov 16 8.51pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

No, we don't. We just try to see the bigger picture.

My picture is bigger.

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 18 Nov 16 8.54pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

I was thinking surely this thread is going to be the longest of all time about 10 years IMO but who knows could be even more.

Thats just the brexit bit all the other stuff add it on.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 18 Nov 16 9.03pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

No. You are political snobs who show distain for the elements of society you claim to support, like Emily Thornbury or Shami Chakribarti have done with snipes at white van man and Essex man.

Play the man to distract from the fact that deep down you know they are right

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Nov 16 11.23pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Play the man to distract from the fact that deep down you know they are right

You should talk about avoiding what you know is right.
You are a serial avoider of truth in favour of party loyalty.

The Labour party are meant to support the ordinary man...even if he is a prat.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 19 Nov 16 1.49am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You should talk about avoiding what you know is right.
You are a serial avoider of truth in favour of party loyalty.

The Labour party are meant to support the ordinary man...even if he is a prat.

And they do. Many labour members are also trade unionists who give up their time to ensure both the workforce and management are happy with pay structures and working conditions. If that isn't helping the working man or woman, I don't know what is.

 

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Sportyteacher Flag London 19 Nov 16 7.25am Send a Private Message to Sportyteacher Add Sportyteacher as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Play the man to distract from the fact that deep down you know they are right

Well said, Nick! It doesn't take much to rattle Matt who still seems to assume that I follow Labour Party. Let's get back to dealing with facts supported by substance at a time when aforementioned tabloids were all for Brexit and pulling the strings of certain Government Ministers.

 

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matt_himself Flag Matataland 19 Nov 16 7.51am Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

Well said, Nick! It doesn't take much to rattle Matt who still seems to assume that I follow Labour Party. Let's get back to dealing with facts supported by substance at a time when aforementioned tabloids were all for Brexit and pulling the strings of certain Government Ministers.

You haven't understood, or have deliberately misinterpreted, what I said.

I have never claimed that you support Labour. I think that you are a typical leftie blowhard, for whom no party, collective or group fingerless glove wearing, placard bearing assortment of malcontents is 'aligned to your politics'. I do not believe that you even have a set politics, more a collection of envy, derision and acknowledgement of what you hate, but you are unsure of how to form this into a cognitive ideology, which shouldn't make you sad as 99% of your comrades around the world and in history are in same place as you.

What I do know, and what I was commenting on, is that you pour disdain on a group you claim to support, the white working class, for having the temerity to oppose the views you think hey should hold, because you want them to hold them. You comments on here about 'Daily Mail, Sun and Express readers' display a contempt of people you find repulsive and yet you cannot understand, and neither can your kind, understand why his disenfranchised group has been welcomed by UKIP, and listened too, whom will act upon their concerns, whereas you tell people worried about their jobs, families or communities, that their well being is less important than chasing your pet social engineering projects, such as 'fighting transphobia' or 'holding Israel to account'.

Take the above in. Don't knee jerk a poor response like your one above and I am always happy to provide any observations on your 'politics' you may wish to receive.


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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 19 Nov 16 12.11pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

And they do. Many labour members are also trade unionists who give up their time to ensure both the workforce and management are happy with pay structures and working conditions. If that isn't helping the working man or woman, I don't know what is.

....and huge swathes of the Labour party have never worked a meaningful job. I always say trade union shop floor stewards a bit like site agents on construction sites are purely there because on the whole they are incapable of doing their original job to a satisfactory level.

 


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