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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 30 Jul 23 1.44pm
It’s with much pleasure I announce ; Coutts 0 Farage 2 Rose og Flavel og Red cards; Rose, Flavell Yellow card ; Davies ( NatWest ) Ref ; N. Farage , Biggin Hill Old, Ungifted and White
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NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 30 Jul 23 1.44pm

It’s with much pleasure I announce ;

Coutts 0 Farage 2

Rose og
Flavel og

Red cards; Rose, Flavell
Yellow card ; Davies ( NatWest )

Ref ; N. Farage , Biggin Hill

Old, Ungifted and White

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Mattconrov 30 Jul 23 1.58pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Nobody was really talking about a "deal" during the Brexit campaign. It was all part of the con trick. It was just suggested that making new arrangements was simplicity itself as it was as much in the EU's interest as ours because of our importance to them as customers. Things changed later. Remember Johnson's "oven-ready" deal that enabled him to further con people he could deliver Brexit. Farage was advocating a "clean break" for a long time and trying to push the Tories into accepting it through an election pact. Read this:- [Link] Your judgement seems clouded by your emotional attitude about the EU, evidenced by the use of terms like "fascists", which is so far from reality to be quite amusing. None of this though is really the point, which is that, for whatever reason, people lost their UK bank accounts as a consequence of Brexit, something Farage advocated for many years, welcomed unreservedly and still believes was necessary. To ignore that, whilst working himself into a faux rage over current account closures, is indicative of the fake nature of the man. I've already said he offered a no deal Brexit to Johnson in August 2019. Please see my original comments. He would of course of wanted a deal earlier. But because of the E.U. FASCISTS, one wasn't possible. It's totally contextual. You are not seeing that I assume. Farage asking for a no deal brexit in 2016 which he didn't and then for real on 2019 is contextual. Got it? Lol Using terms like fascism are not emotional Mr Wisbech. Just saying it how it is. I'm pleased you find it amusing. I just think you're making this about Nigel and not bank accounts being closed down. If you want to call Johnson a con man; then I totally agree. The vote for Brexit was do you want to leave? Yes or no. We voted no. People knew what they were voting for. Edited by Mattconrov (30 Jul 2023 2.02pm) Edited by Mattconrov (30 Jul 2023 2.05pm) " You're not laughing now are you". Nigel Farage 2016.
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Mattconrov

30 Jul 23 1.58pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Nobody was really talking about a "deal" during the Brexit campaign. It was all part of the con trick. It was just suggested that making new arrangements was simplicity itself as it was as much in the EU's interest as ours because of our importance to them as customers. Things changed later. Remember Johnson's "oven-ready" deal that enabled him to further con people he could deliver Brexit. Farage was advocating a "clean break" for a long time and trying to push the Tories into accepting it through an election pact. Read this:-

[Link]

Your judgement seems clouded by your emotional attitude about the EU, evidenced by the use of terms like "fascists", which is so far from reality to be quite amusing.

None of this though is really the point, which is that, for whatever reason, people lost their UK bank accounts as a consequence of Brexit, something Farage advocated for many years, welcomed unreservedly and still believes was necessary. To ignore that, whilst working himself into a faux rage over current account closures, is indicative of the fake nature of the man.

I've already said he offered a no deal Brexit to Johnson in August 2019. Please see my original comments. He would of course of wanted a deal earlier. But because of the E.U. FASCISTS, one wasn't possible. It's totally contextual. You are not seeing that I assume. Farage asking for a no deal brexit in 2016 which he didn't and then for real on 2019 is contextual. Got it? Lol

Using terms like fascism are not emotional Mr Wisbech. Just saying it how it is. I'm pleased you find it amusing. I just think you're making this about Nigel and not bank accounts being closed down.

If you want to call Johnson a con man; then I totally agree. The vote for Brexit was do you want to leave? Yes or no. We voted no. People knew what they were voting for.

Edited by Mattconrov (30 Jul 2023 2.02pm)

Edited by Mattconrov (30 Jul 2023 2.05pm)

" You're not laughing now are you". Nigel Farage 2016.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 2.23pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Must make it worse that such a fake and fraud achieved what he set out to do. It just points up the madness of allowing our country's future to be decided by political campaigning in which people like Farage can play significant roles. That he is still here, using his GB News platform to promote his political views and make a fuss about personal matters, like the loss of his Coutts account, raises many questions in my mind. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 2.23pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Must make it worse that such a fake and fraud achieved what he set out to do.

It just points up the madness of allowing our country's future to be decided by political campaigning in which people like Farage can play significant roles.

That he is still here, using his GB News platform to promote his political views and make a fuss about personal matters, like the loss of his Coutts account, raises many questions in my mind.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Teddy Eagle 30 Jul 23 2.30pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle It just points up the madness of allowing our country's future to be decided by political campaigning in which people like Farage can play significant roles. That he is still here, using his GB News platform to promote his political views and make a fuss about personal matters, like the loss of his Coutts account, raises many questions in my mind. Is one of those questions why David Cameron escapes censure despite not being forced to offer the referendum for any reason other than his own party fearing losing their seats to UKIP?
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Teddy Eagle

30 Jul 23 2.30pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It just points up the madness of allowing our country's future to be decided by political campaigning in which people like Farage can play significant roles.

That he is still here, using his GB News platform to promote his political views and make a fuss about personal matters, like the loss of his Coutts account, raises many questions in my mind.

Is one of those questions why David Cameron escapes censure despite not being forced to offer the referendum for any reason other than his own party fearing losing their seats to UKIP?

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 2.36pm
Originally posted by Mattconrov I've already said he offered a no deal Brexit to Johnson in August 2019. Please see my original comments. He would of course of wanted a deal earlier. But because of the E.U. FASCISTS, one wasn't possible. It's totally contextual. You are not seeing that I assume. Farage asking for a no deal brexit in 2016 which he didn't and then for real on 2019 is contextual. Got it? Lol Using terms like fascism are not emotional Mr Wisbech. Just saying it how it is. I'm pleased you find it amusing. I just think you're making this about Nigel and not bank accounts being closed down. If you want to call Johnson a con man; then I totally agree. The vote for Brexit was do you want to leave? Yes or no. We voted no. People knew what they were voting for. Edited by Mattconrov (30 Jul 2023 2.02pm) Edited by Mattconrov (30 Jul 2023 2.05pm) What you actually said was that he offered Johnson a no-deal Brexit. He didn't, as he couldn't. He offered an election pact if Johnson agreed to promote a no-deal Brexit. The context is indeed important. If you don't think describing those who are almost all social democrats, fascists, isn't based on an emotional response to the EU, fine. I do. It isn't how it is. There are a few who might deserve that epithet, but they are all on the right. This particular mini thread is about Farage's hypocrisy over his use of the personal event with Couttes to promote himself, whilst ignoring a much bigger event, involving thousands of people, caused by an event he promoted. It's all therefore about bank account closures. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 2.36pm

Originally posted by Mattconrov

Using terms like fascism are not emotional Mr Wisbech. Just saying it how it is. I'm pleased you find it amusing. I just think you're making this about Nigel and not bank accounts being closed down.

If you want to call Johnson a con man; then I totally agree. The vote for Brexit was do you want to leave? Yes or no. We voted no. People knew what they were voting for.

Edited by Mattconrov (30 Jul 2023 2.02pm)

Edited by Mattconrov (30 Jul 2023 2.05pm)

What you actually said was that he offered Johnson a no-deal Brexit. He didn't, as he couldn't. He offered an election pact if Johnson agreed to promote a no-deal Brexit. The context is indeed important.

If you don't think describing those who are almost all social democrats, fascists, isn't based on an emotional response to the EU, fine. I do. It isn't how it is. There are a few who might deserve that epithet, but they are all on the right.

This particular mini thread is about Farage's hypocrisy over his use of the personal event with Couttes to promote himself, whilst ignoring a much bigger event, involving thousands of people, caused by an event he promoted. It's all therefore about bank account closures.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 2.40pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Is one of those questions why David Cameron escapes censure despite not being forced to offer the referendum for any reason other than his own party fearing losing their seats to UKIP? Off thread, but certainly. Cameron, and those behind him, bear a heavy responsibility not only for allowing Brexit to happen but also for creating circumstances which will probably result in the destruction of the Tory Party, something they were fearful of when they agreed to hold a referendum. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 2.40pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Is one of those questions why David Cameron escapes censure despite not being forced to offer the referendum for any reason other than his own party fearing losing their seats to UKIP?

Off thread, but certainly. Cameron, and those behind him, bear a heavy responsibility not only for allowing Brexit to happen but also for creating circumstances which will probably result in the destruction of the Tory Party, something they were fearful of when they agreed to hold a referendum.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Mattconrov 30 Jul 23 3.34pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle What you actually said was that he offered Johnson a no-deal Brexit. He didn't, as he couldn't. He offered an election pact if Johnson agreed to promote a no-deal Brexit. The context is indeed important. If you don't think describing those who are almost all social democrats, fascists, isn't based on an emotional response to the EU, fine. I do. It isn't how it is. There are a few who might deserve that epithet, but they are all on the right. This particular mini thread is about Farage's hypocrisy over his use of the personal event with Couttes to promote himself, whilst ignoring a much bigger event, involving thousands of people, caused by an event he promoted. It's all therefore about bank account closures. Nigel offered his support for a no brexit deal by standing down candidates. Pact or support. Means the same thing. People voted no on 2016. Then voted for a conservative government in 2017 and 2019. So we voted 3 times to leave. The last election was overwhelming the n support of brexit.As much as I dislike the main parties. I even voted for Johnson. That may not be relevant to what we're talking about. But I thought I'd remind you. Anyways I'm done. Till the next time. Love Matt. " You're not laughing now are you". Nigel Farage 2016.
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Mattconrov

30 Jul 23 3.34pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Nigel offered his support for a no brexit deal by standing down candidates. Pact or support. Means the same thing.

People voted no on 2016. Then voted for a conservative government in 2017 and 2019. So we voted 3 times to leave. The last election was overwhelming the n support of brexit.As much as I dislike the main parties. I even voted for Johnson. That may not be relevant to what we're talking about. But I thought I'd remind you.

Anyways I'm done. Till the next time.

Love Matt.

" You're not laughing now are you". Nigel Farage 2016.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 4.27pm
Originally posted by Mattconrov Nigel offered his support for a no brexit deal by standing down candidates. Pact or support. Means the same thing. People voted no on 2016. Then voted for a conservative government in 2017 and 2019. So we voted 3 times to leave. The last election was overwhelming the n support of brexit.As much as I dislike the main parties. I even voted for Johnson. That may not be relevant to what we're talking about. But I thought I'd remind you. Anyways I'm done. Till the next time. Love Matt. It isn't relevant. People did vote no, just, in 2016. In 2017 and 2019 they voted back in a Tory government. Reversing Brexit was not on offer from either of the two big parties, so not a live issue. Keeping Corbyn out of power was a much bigger factor. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 4.27pm

Originally posted by Mattconrov

Nigel offered his support for a no brexit deal by standing down candidates. Pact or support. Means the same thing.

Anyways I'm done. Till the next time.

Love Matt.

It isn't relevant. People did vote no, just, in 2016. In 2017 and 2019 they voted back in a Tory government. Reversing Brexit was not on offer from either of the two big parties, so not a live issue. Keeping Corbyn out of power was a much bigger factor.

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becky over the moon 30 Jul 23 4.35pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle None of this though is really the point, which is that, for whatever reason, people lost their UK bank accounts as a consequence of Brexit, something Farage advocated for many years, welcomed unreservedly and still believes was necessary. To ignore that, whilst working himself into a faux rage over current account closures, is indicative of the fake nature of the man. I totally fail to see how any blame can be put on NF for the closure of overseas people's bank accounts. Yes, he advocated for Brexit, but was in no way responsible for delivering it, or the terms of our withdrawal. If people chose, under Brexit, to change their country of residence then that was their free choice - they cannot then complain that they are, as EX-patriots, required to obey the financial requirements of the country in which they have chosen to live, or comply with the rules of the country that they have chosen to leave, nor can NF be blamed for their choices. NF is a resident of the UK, broke no financial regulations, had the confidentiality that he was entitled to expect from a financial institute breached in a very public way, and yet, when he rightly complains, he seems to be cast as the felon in all this! A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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over the moon 30 Jul 23 4.35pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I totally fail to see how any blame can be put on NF for the closure of overseas people's bank accounts.

Yes, he advocated for Brexit, but was in no way responsible for delivering it, or the terms of our withdrawal.

If people chose, under Brexit, to change their country of residence then that was their free choice - they cannot then complain that they are, as EX-patriots, required to obey the financial requirements of the country in which they have chosen to live, or comply with the rules of the country that they have chosen to leave, nor can NF be blamed for their choices.

NF is a resident of the UK, broke no financial regulations, had the confidentiality that he was entitled to expect from a financial institute breached in a very public way, and yet, when he rightly complains, he seems to be cast as the felon in all this!

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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 30 Jul 23 4.57pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle No, they had their UK bank accounts closed because they live in the EU and we were no longer a member. I live in the EU, the bank didn't close my account....maybe I just had too much money in it?
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the silurian

The garden of England.(not really) 30 Jul 23 4.57pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No, they had their UK bank accounts closed because they live in the EU and we were no longer a member.

I live in the EU, the bank didn't close my account....maybe I just had too much money in it?

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 5.25pm
Originally posted by becky I totally fail to see how any blame can be put on NF for the closure of overseas people's bank accounts. Yes, he advocated for Brexit, but was in no way responsible for delivering it, or the terms of our withdrawal. If people chose, under Brexit, to change their country of residence then that was their free choice - they cannot then complain that they are, as EX-patriots, required to obey the financial requirements of the country in which they have chosen to live, or comply with the rules of the country that they have chosen to leave, nor can NF be blamed for their choices. NF is a resident of the UK, broke no financial regulations, had the confidentiality that he was entitled to expect from a financial institute breached in a very public way, and yet, when he rightly complains, he seems to be cast as the felon in all this! I don't think he should be blamed either. With due respect that's not the issue. The people involved didn't change their country of residence. They were already living in EU countries but had their UK bank accounts closed as a consequence of Brexit, something Farage advocated and campaigned for. They now have problems with receiving their pensions etc. The issue is his lack of attention to their plight, when there are thousands impacted, whilst getting in a froth over others who almost certainly are able to easily access alternatives, which the other group cannot. They did nothing wrong, or moved anywhere. This all happened because we voted to leave. It's the hypocrisy which is the issue. Maybe you don't see any hypocrisy but others do. Not just myself. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 5.25pm

Originally posted by becky

I totally fail to see how any blame can be put on NF for the closure of overseas people's bank accounts.

Yes, he advocated for Brexit, but was in no way responsible for delivering it, or the terms of our withdrawal.

I don't think he should be blamed either. With due respect that's not the issue. The people involved didn't change their country of residence. They were already living in EU countries but had their UK bank accounts closed as a consequence of Brexit, something Farage advocated and campaigned for. They now have problems with receiving their pensions etc.

The issue is his lack of attention to their plight, when there are thousands impacted, whilst getting in a froth over others who almost certainly are able to easily access alternatives, which the other group cannot. They did nothing wrong, or moved anywhere. This all happened because we voted to leave.

It's the hypocrisy which is the issue. Maybe you don't see any hypocrisy but others do. Not just myself.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 5.28pm
Originally posted by the silurian I live in the EU, the bank didn't close my account....maybe I just had too much money in it? I suspect that maybe because you have a UK address you are able to use for mail. That's all that's required but a surprisingly large number of people seem not to have one. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 5.28pm

Originally posted by the silurian

I live in the EU, the bank didn't close my account....maybe I just had too much money in it?

I suspect that maybe because you have a UK address you are able to use for mail. That's all that's required but a surprisingly large number of people seem not to have one.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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