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legaleagle 06 Oct 17 8.51am
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Yes, people behaving in a racist manner is greatly fueled by the failure of multi-culturalism which has caused dangerous fragmentation within society - as it has throughout the world. plleeeaaassseeee... So,the patent success of a policy of multiculturalism in Australia and Canada is conveniently ignored ....because it doesn't fit into your narrative
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06 Oct 17 8.51am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Yes, people behaving in a racist manner is greatly fueled by the failure of multi-culturalism which has caused dangerous fragmentation within society - as it has throughout the world.

plleeeaaassseeee...

So,the patent success of a policy of multiculturalism in Australia and Canada is conveniently ignored ....because it doesn't fit into your narrative

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 06 Oct 17 8.52am
Originally posted by Willo Getting back 'On Track' by commenting on matters at 'Conference', Theresa May deserves credit for the resilience she showed in battling through to the end of her speech. And her bracelet with a bisexual Communist who dated Trotsky on it. That was nice.
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Shizzlehurst 06 Oct 17 8.52am

Originally posted by Willo

Getting back 'On Track' by commenting on matters at 'Conference', Theresa May deserves credit for the resilience she showed in battling through to the end of her speech.

And her bracelet with a bisexual Communist who dated Trotsky on it. That was nice.

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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 06 Oct 17 8.53am
Originally posted by Willo One may gloss over it as a mere prank but it was serious enough for a major security investigation to be underway last night into how the nitwit got so close to the PM and why it took 2 minutes for him to be bundled him out of the hall before he was arrested. Edited by Willo (05 Oct 2017 4.20pm) I don't remember Phil Hammond being bundled out of the hall and arrested. Should there be a list of people who are allowed to go near the PM and a list who aren't? Perhaps simply those with wealth of at least £1m are allowed and any hoi poloi must be kept at a distance of at least 50m. That way she could justify dodging the public on the campaign trail.
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Sydenham 06 Oct 17 8.53am

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Originally posted by Willo

One may gloss over it as a mere prank but it was serious enough for a major security investigation to be underway last night into how the nitwit got so close to the PM and why it took 2 minutes for him to be bundled him out of the hall before he was arrested.

Edited by Willo (05 Oct 2017 4.20pm)

I don't remember Phil Hammond being bundled out of the hall and arrested. Should there be a list of people who are allowed to go near the PM and a list who aren't? Perhaps simply those with wealth of at least £1m are allowed and any hoi poloi must be kept at a distance of at least 50m. That way she could justify dodging the public on the campaign trail.

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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 06 Oct 17 8.56am
Originally posted by Willo The Conservative Party are not headlining this at all.Coverage in the media is drawing attention to the nitwit. At the end of the day the incident is serious enough to warrant a security investigation and such an invesigation would have been invoked even if Corbyn was subjected to similar behaviour. If indeed Corbyn had been interrupted in similar fashion all the lefties on here would have taken a different stance, blaming the Tories for setting it up ! The more relevant point is why did it happen to May and not to Corbyn?
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Sydenham 06 Oct 17 8.56am

Originally posted by Willo

The Conservative Party are not headlining this at all.Coverage in the media is drawing attention to the nitwit.

At the end of the day the incident is serious enough to warrant a security investigation and such an invesigation would have been invoked even if Corbyn was subjected to similar behaviour.

If indeed Corbyn had been interrupted in similar fashion all the lefties on here would have taken a different stance, blaming the Tories for setting it up !

The more relevant point is why did it happen to May and not to Corbyn?

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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 06 Oct 17 9.04am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Yawn. I know you prefer a more Lord of the Flies affair. Maybe all the suitable bodyguards had been hired out for so-called right biased media at your bash and that's why that knob got so close to the PM. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (05 Oct 2017 6.47pm) The events were at no point concurrent so any "suitable bodyguards" could have easily worked at both events. I believe the road and public transport network isn't so broken that getting between Brighton and Manchester in under a day is impossible. The fact that there were 3 days in between the two conferences should have afforded ample time for those "suitable bodyguards" to have arrived in Manchester in time.
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Sydenham 06 Oct 17 9.04am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Yawn.

I know you prefer a more Lord of the Flies affair. Maybe all the suitable bodyguards had been hired out for so-called right biased media at your bash and that's why that knob got so close to the PM.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (05 Oct 2017 6.47pm)

The events were at no point concurrent so any "suitable bodyguards" could have easily worked at both events. I believe the road and public transport network isn't so broken that getting between Brighton and Manchester in under a day is impossible. The fact that there were 3 days in between the two conferences should have afforded ample time for those "suitable bodyguards" to have arrived in Manchester in time.

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 06 Oct 17 9.07am
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle The more relevant point is why did it happen to May and not to Corbyn? Because Corbyn's such a dick already, it's not possible to make him look any more of a fcking idiot. "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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wherever I lay my hat....... 06 Oct 17 9.07am

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

The more relevant point is why did it happen to May and not to Corbyn?

Because Corbyn's such a dick already, it's not possible to make him look any more of a fcking idiot.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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hedgehog50 Croydon 06 Oct 17 9.11am
Originally posted by legaleagle plleeeaaassseeee... So,the patent success of a policy of multiculturalism in Australia and Canada is conveniently ignored ....because it doesn't fit into your narrative There have been inter-communal problems in both countries - not to mention armed struggle with bombings by French speaking Canadians against English speaking Canadians. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 06 Oct 17 9.11am

Originally posted by legaleagle

plleeeaaassseeee...

So,the patent success of a policy of multiculturalism in Australia and Canada is conveniently ignored ....because it doesn't fit into your narrative

There have been inter-communal problems in both countries - not to mention armed struggle with bombings by French speaking Canadians against English speaking Canadians.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 06 Oct 17 9.16am
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Firstly, it is not the true face of conservatism. It is of course unpleasant and reprehensible, but it illustrates the failure of multi-culturalism - a failure from all sides. It is a simple matter to find and post videos of say, Imans, who have nothing whatsoever to do with Islam, calling for death to infidels; or other agitators from disparate 'communities' demanding various 'rights' while denigrating society at large and the authorities. All cheered on by the Trotskyite wing of the current Labour party to ferment even more trouble. Are you under the illusion that all benefit claimants are non-white/non-British? Or even a majority. To say her comments are a failure of multiculturalism ignores that fact that what she said was not only based on narrow minded bigotry, but also on a complete and utter ignorance of fact. Your comments are likewise. Something like 92% of benefit claimants are white and British for the record, making them significantly MORE likely to be claiming benefits than immigrants. (source: DWP)
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Sydenham 06 Oct 17 9.16am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Firstly, it is not the true face of conservatism. It is of course unpleasant and reprehensible, but it illustrates the failure of multi-culturalism - a failure from all sides. It is a simple matter to find and post videos of say, Imans, who have nothing whatsoever to do with Islam, calling for death to infidels; or other agitators from disparate 'communities' demanding various 'rights' while denigrating society at large and the authorities. All cheered on by the Trotskyite wing of the current Labour party to ferment even more trouble.

Are you under the illusion that all benefit claimants are non-white/non-British? Or even a majority.

To say her comments are a failure of multiculturalism ignores that fact that what she said was not only based on narrow minded bigotry, but also on a complete and utter ignorance of fact.

Your comments are likewise.

Something like 92% of benefit claimants are white and British for the record, making them significantly MORE likely to be claiming benefits than immigrants. (source: DWP)

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Oct 17 9.17am
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle The more relevant point is why did it happen to May and not to Corbyn? Because some attention seeking nincompoop decided to engage in a publicity stunt based on the current 'Mood music'. Might happen to Corbyn one day and if so I suspect the reaction on the lefties on here would be very different.My sentiments and reaction would be exactly the same if such a fate befell the apologist for the IRA, Hamas etc but alas there are some on here who wish to promote their political agenda by blatant point-scoring.I like to think I set my bar somewhat higher.
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South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Oct 17 9.17am

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

The more relevant point is why did it happen to May and not to Corbyn?

Because some attention seeking nincompoop decided to engage in a publicity stunt based on the current 'Mood music'.

Might happen to Corbyn one day and if so I suspect the reaction on the lefties on here would be very different.My sentiments and reaction would be exactly the same if such a fate befell the apologist for the IRA, Hamas etc but alas there are some on here who wish to promote their political agenda by blatant point-scoring.I like to think I set my bar somewhat higher.

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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 06 Oct 17 9.28am
Originally posted by Willo Because some attention seeking nincompoop decided to engage in a publicity stunt based on the current 'Mood music'. Might happen to Corbyn one day and if so I suspect the reaction on the lefties on here would be very different.My sentiments and reaction would be exactly the same if such a fate befell the apologist for the IRA, Hamas etc but alas there are some on here who wish to promote their political agenda by blatant point-scoring.I like to think I set my bar somewhat higher. What, by making unfounded claims about what others would do in the future, based on your biases against those people? You talk about 'Mood music' like it's some sort of state of being unrelated to the real world, past events or the state of the nation. It's not just some flight of fancy. People won't just forget austerity and crumbling public services and falling living standards and the mess they are making of Breixt and their embarrassing infighting like it's all tomorrow's fish and chip wrappings. The 'Mood music' is there for a reason and very much real and it's not going away.
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Sydenham 06 Oct 17 9.28am

Originally posted by Willo

Because some attention seeking nincompoop decided to engage in a publicity stunt based on the current 'Mood music'.

What, by making unfounded claims about what others would do in the future, based on your biases against those people?

You talk about 'Mood music' like it's some sort of state of being unrelated to the real world, past events or the state of the nation. It's not just some flight of fancy. People won't just forget austerity and crumbling public services and falling living standards and the mess they are making of Breixt and their embarrassing infighting like it's all tomorrow's fish and chip wrappings. The 'Mood music' is there for a reason and very much real and it's not going away.

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Kermit8 Hevon 06 Oct 17 9.33am
If anyone looks down on others because of the colour of their skin, or their nationality or those who have moderate and benign belief systems then it is the former and not the the latter who has problems with some serious character flaws and personal issues thrown in. Edited by Kermit8 (06 Oct 2017 9.35am) Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 06 Oct 17 9.33am

If anyone looks down on others because of the colour of their skin, or their nationality or those who have moderate and benign belief systems then it is the former and not the the latter who has problems with some serious character flaws and personal issues thrown in.

Edited by Kermit8 (06 Oct 2017 9.35am)

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Oct 17 9.42am
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle What, by making unfounded claims about what others would do in the future, based on your biases against those people? You talk about 'Mood music' like it's some sort of state of being unrelated to the real world, past events or the state of the nation. It's not just some flight of fancy. People won't just forget austerity and crumbling public services and falling living standards and the mess they are making of Breixt and their embarrassing infighting like it's all tomorrow's fish and chip wrappings. The 'Mood music' is there for a reason and very much real and it's not going away. And people will recognise the astonishing achievements of the Conservatives from record employment to polices which despite blatant Labour lies, have sharply narrowed the gap between rich and poor.And the Conservatives won their highest vote share for over 30 years. As for Brexit, these were always going to be complex negotations and it is a bit rich deriding Conservatives for Brexit when Labour keep flip-flopping from week to week regarding what they would do- in the single market out of the single market,in the customs union out of the customs union.Thank heavens we don't have them negotiating with the EU. Finally when I mentioned 'Mood music' I was referring to Boris and not the overall picture. Edited by Willo (06 Oct 2017 9.43am)
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South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Oct 17 9.42am

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

What, by making unfounded claims about what others would do in the future, based on your biases against those people?

You talk about 'Mood music' like it's some sort of state of being unrelated to the real world, past events or the state of the nation. It's not just some flight of fancy. People won't just forget austerity and crumbling public services and falling living standards and the mess they are making of Breixt and their embarrassing infighting like it's all tomorrow's fish and chip wrappings. The 'Mood music' is there for a reason and very much real and it's not going away.

And people will recognise the astonishing achievements of the Conservatives from record employment to polices which despite blatant Labour lies, have sharply narrowed the gap between rich and poor.And the Conservatives won their highest vote share for over 30 years.

As for Brexit, these were always going to be complex negotations and it is a bit rich deriding Conservatives for Brexit when Labour keep flip-flopping from week to week regarding what they would do- in the single market out of the single market,in the customs union out of the customs union.Thank heavens we don't have them negotiating with the EU.

Finally when I mentioned 'Mood music' I was referring to Boris and not the overall picture.

Edited by Willo (06 Oct 2017 9.43am)

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