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matt_himself Flag Matataland 17 Nov 16 5.52am Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

Anyone also who doesn't read The Sun; Daily Mail or Daily Express should also be deported...

I find it ironic that you and Michael claim so much to hate 'prejudice' and yet demonstrate your own prejudices so often and consistently.

 


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Part Time James Flag 17 Nov 16 6.48am Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

Same here. But he said born, not living, so I'm in.

Unfortunately my grandad was from Scotland. We don't talk about it.

 




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matt_himself Flag Matataland 17 Nov 16 6.58am Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by Part Time James

Unfortunately my grandad was from Scotland. We don't talk about it.

Permit me to suggest that as you have distant relatives from Scotland, but have never lived there, why don't you bang on about being Scottish as if you were a combination of Robert the f***ing Bruce and Rab C Nesbitt, forcing myths, assumptions and carefully constructed bulls*** onto people when debating matters related to the Tartan Nation?

 


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Part Time James Flag 17 Nov 16 7.09am Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Originally posted by matt_himself

Permit me to suggest that as you have distant relatives from Scotland, but have never lived there, why don't you bang on about being Scottish as if you were a combination of Robert the f***ing Bruce and Rab C Nesbitt, forcing myths, assumptions and carefully constructed bulls*** onto people when debating matters related to the Tartan Nation?

Aye, ah ken, but get tae f*ck ya wee radge b*stard

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 17 Nov 16 9.32am

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

And removal of a significant number of those already here.

Could be problematic, given they came here legally. They'd need to be in default of immigration rules before you could deport them (i.e. out of work for a set period of time for non-EU and probably commission of a crime or leaving the country by choice.

For non-eu it could be easier, as their working permits and visas would expire, but then there is the question of whether they can be replaced from the available work force.

If you were to say, immediately pursue a policy of deporting say the 300,000 or so EU migrants in a year, its likely the economy would tank.

The desire to 'be free of non-British' and the practicality of doing so, need to be considered. Just because people may have a Nationalist agenda, pursuing something like that ideologically will f**k the country.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 17 Nov 16 9.33am

Originally posted by Kermit8

Anyone who doesn't have four English born grandparents should be deported forthwith.

See ya!

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 17 Nov 16 9.42am

Originally posted by Mr_Gristle

Indeed, which is the crux of my point. I can get a mortgage and, despite the fortunate position I now find myself in, property ownership in the SE is inaccesible (perhaps a better semantic choice than "unaffordable" ). What does that mean for other income groups?

Anyway, enough finger pointing. My view is that blaming this situation on EU freedom of movement conveniently moves the focus away from years of government's economic policies which have entrenched multiple property ownership as the one guaranteed way to generate decent returns on wealth.

Apologies for earlier outbursts of sarcasm.

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Edited by Mr_Gristle (16 Nov 2016 8.40pm)

It was a problem before the introduction of freedom of movement - house prices were ridiculous - its just that banking practices around mortgages were just as crazy - and we saw where that ended up.

Whilst I suspect that if you lower your expectations then many people could, with some financial struggle, buy a house. It says something about our society that we feel that's a good thing, that the biggest purchase of your life, will be for something that is not as bad as the other options.

You can spend 250k to live in a crime riddled area of town, in a house that the council used to provide for very reasonable rent.

 


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DanH Flag SW2 17 Nov 16 9.59am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by We are goin up!

True. Mortgage advisor here, almost all the first time buyers I see end up paying less on their first mortgage than they did on rent, whilst upgrading the quality of property.

Yep, that's the depressing thing. Chucking away money on rent that could otherwise be going towards a deposit and caught in the perpetual cycle.

 

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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 17 Nov 16 10.10am Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Could be problematic, given they came here legally. They'd need to be in default of immigration rules before you could deport them (i.e. out of work for a set period of time for non-EU and probably commission of a crime or leaving the country by choice.

For non-eu it could be easier, as their working permits and visas would expire, but then there is the question of whether they can be replaced from the available work force.

If you were to say, immediately pursue a policy of deporting say the 300,000 or so EU migrants in a year, its likely the economy would tank.

The desire to 'be free of non-British' and the practicality of doing so, need to be considered. Just because people may have a Nationalist agenda, pursuing something like that ideologically will f**k the country.

But think of what fun it'd be.

 


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L.E.Eagle Flag 17 Nov 16 10.25am Send a Private Message to L.E.Eagle Add L.E.Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Anyone who doesn't have four English born grandparents should be deported forthwith.

2 questions:

1.Is U.K okay or do you really mean England?

2.Are we talking 'birth certificate' grandparents or 'what everybody thinks is probably more like the truth and would explain a lot' grandparents?

 

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Part Time James Flag 17 Nov 16 10.27am Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Originally posted by L.E.Eagle

2 questions:

1.Is U.K okay or do you really mean England?

2.Are we talking 'birth certificate' grandparents or 'what everybody thinks is probably more like the truth and would explain a lot' grandparents?

These are good questions, but I don't think this law is going to be brought in. No disrespect to Kermit, but he has to get this bill through parliament first, he can't just post his ideas on the HOL forum and make them so.

 




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We are goin up! Flag Coulsdon 17 Nov 16 10.58am Send a Private Message to We are goin up! Add We are goin up! as a friend

Originally posted by chris123

I think the market will adjust before long.


I would agree with you normally, but Osborne decided to mess with the market by hiking up stamp duty and making it much harder to get a landlord's mortgage. This has put landlords' costs up, which obviously puts rents up.

Will be watching the Autumn Statement very closely, if the new government have any sense they'll reverse some of the changes that the previous administration made.

 


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