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 Mapletree  Croydon 09 Feb 23 11.57pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Of course it's true. £30k a year gross is about £24k a year net, so £2k a month. Average rent in London is £1.5-1.6k conservatively with utilities and council tax on top - that's your £2k basically done. Even if you find somewhere for £1200 PCM on rent, you're leaving £300 a month for travel, food and essentials. Impossible. If you have kids or dependents the numbers make even less sense. That whole argument is also centred around this idea that people doing jobs as important as nursing or firefighting should be happy saving lives all day for money which does not afford them any sort of social life, hobby or luxury. Is that a reasonable expectation? "Yeah you may do life saving work, but if you ate nothing but oats and pasta 7 days a week, you wouldn't need the food bank!" is not the win some people seem to think it is. At the same time as demonising key workers for being poor and not being able to budget, our Lee claims £223k a year in expenses on top of his salary.
£23,474 net. Anderson started with £30k then tried to argue for £35k. I believe the discussion was about a family, so more than one bedroom presumably. Portico analysed 26,417 rental properties currently available on Rightmove (as of May 2021) throughout all 32 London boroughs, to find the most affordable places to rent in and around the capital. The research found that the average rental price in London is currently £1,832 per month, with the average rental for a two-bedroom property at £1,800 per month. So £21,600. There was no discussion about additional housing support or other allowances So Anderson thinks you can feed, cloth and keep a family warm for less than £2,000 per annum. EDN is entirety correct and Anderson is living on another planet.
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Teddy Eagle  10 Feb 23 12.19am |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
£23,474 net. Anderson started with £30k then tried to argue for £35k. I believe the discussion was about a family, so more than one bedroom presumably. Portico analysed 26,417 rental properties currently available on Rightmove (as of May 2021) throughout all 32 London boroughs, to find the most affordable places to rent in and around the capital. The research found that the average rental price in London is currently £1,832 per month, with the average rental for a two-bedroom property at £1,800 per month. So £21,600. There was no discussion about additional housing support or other allowances So Anderson thinks you can feed, cloth and keep a family warm for less than £2,000 per annum. EDN is entirety correct and Anderson is living on another planet. Assuming only one income.
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cryrst  The garden of England 10 Feb 23 5.08am |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Brilliant. Ok so you have just got a mortgage and good luck sincerely with it. It is a long slow drag. What if you get to a point where you are struggling. What will you personally do ?
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| Midlands Eagle 10 Feb 23 6.04am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
In which case the BBC will have no problems finding volunteers and showing Lee Anderson up. PS you forgot to include child benefit and possibly in work benefits but I take your point. If the facts support you let's see the detail on the BBC. He did cover himself by saying "find someone in Ashfield" and I agree with him that in many parts of the country where rents are cheaper it is possible to live on a nurses income without resorting to food banks. Rents in the town in which I live are from £600 to £700 per month for a reasonable two bedroomed house or flat
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| Spiderman Horsham 10 Feb 23 7.33am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Assuming only one income. Good point
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 10 Feb 23 9.37am |
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When you blow away all the fog, basically you cannot afford to lice in London unless you live with your parents or have no rent, or have social housing. Private rents mean that for people earning less that about 30K they are simply existing with London rents. London needs a huge number of workers in public and private sectors who can neither afford to live near work aor afford to commute from areas with lower rents. It's a problem that's been building for a long time and is now near bursting point.
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Feb 23 11.33am |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
When you blow away all the fog, basically you cannot afford to lice in London unless you live with your parents or have no rent, or have social housing. Private rents mean that for people earning less that about 30K they are simply existing with London rents. London needs a huge number of workers in public and private sectors who can neither afford to live near work aor afford to commute from areas with lower rents. It's a problem that's been building for a long time and is now near bursting point. Surely Brexit though? Otherwise everyone would be in trendy EU street cafes sipping an espresso.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 10 Feb 23 2.41pm |
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Hunt disappointed UK ‘lost out this time’ on £320m new AstraZeneca factory. Chancellor Jeremy Hunt said he was disappointed the UK “lost out this time” on a £320 million new AstraZeneca factory after the drugs giant chose the low-tax Republic of Ireland instead. High tax, low growth UK is safe in your hands Jeremy.
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| Mapletree Croydon 10 Feb 23 3.12pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Assuming only one income. Yes, that was the debate with Anderson.
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| JRW2 Dulwich 10 Feb 23 3.15pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Hunt disappointed UK ‘lost out this time’ on £320m new AstraZeneca factory. Chancellor Jeremy Hunt said he was disappointed the UK “lost out this time” on a £320 million new AstraZeneca factory after the drugs giant chose the low-tax Republic of Ireland instead. High tax, low growth UK is safe in your hands Jeremy. T think he said that low corporation tax was desirable but that cuts had to be paid for, either by borrowing (and we saw a few months ago where that would have got us) or increases in non-corporate taxes (which he is being criticised for because they're already higher than ever before). Yes, I'm paraphrasing and filling out what he said, but I think that's a fair summary of what he meant.
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| Teddy Eagle 10 Feb 23 8.18pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
£23,474 net. Anderson started with £30k then tried to argue for £35k. I believe the discussion was about a family, so more than one bedroom presumably. Portico analysed 26,417 rental properties currently available on Rightmove (as of May 2021) throughout all 32 London boroughs, to find the most affordable places to rent in and around the capital. The research found that the average rental price in London is currently £1,832 per month, with the average rental for a two-bedroom property at £1,800 per month. So £21,600. There was no discussion about additional housing support or other allowances So Anderson thinks you can feed, cloth and keep a family warm for less than £2,000 per annum. EDN is entirety correct and Anderson is living on another planet. Once they've paid the mayor's ULEZ expansion charges they'll have minus £1000 a year.
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 10 Feb 23 10.19pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Hunt disappointed UK ‘lost out this time’ on £320m new AstraZeneca factory. Chancellor Jeremy Hunt said he was disappointed the UK “lost out this time” on a £320 million new AstraZeneca factory after the drugs giant chose the low-tax Republic of Ireland instead. High tax, low growth UK is safe in your hands Jeremy. This also means that for Astrazeneca they see no difference in workforce skills available in Ireland compared to UK.IF the differentiator is less tax then only one winner.
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