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cryrst The garden of England 17 May 20 3.37pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I would think that was Obama's own decision, and he has been biding his time, but now feels the situation with Trump has become so dangerous that he can no longer stay silent. We will have to reserve judgement on Biden but as removing Trump is the imperative if it looks as though there is even the smallest chance he won't then he may well be asked to step aside and allow another to be parachuted in. Someone they know will capture the public's imagination and trust at a time of crisis. Or he could just turn out to be a stalking horse and there is already a plan in place ready to be announced at the most effective moment. We'll see. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (17 May 2020 2.57pm) Better the devil you know though. You may get what you wish for and an even more hard line (you think) republican leader.
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The garden of England 17 May 20 3.37pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I would think that was Obama's own decision, and he has been biding his time, but now feels the situation with Trump has become so dangerous that he can no longer stay silent.

We will have to reserve judgement on Biden but as removing Trump is the imperative if it looks as though there is even the smallest chance he won't then he may well be asked to step aside and allow another to be parachuted in. Someone they know will capture the public's imagination and trust at a time of crisis. Or he could just turn out to be a stalking horse and there is already a plan in place ready to be announced at the most effective moment.

We'll see.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (17 May 2020 2.57pm)

Better the devil you know though. You may get what you wish for and an even more hard line (you think) republican leader.

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Stirlingsays 17 May 20 3.49pm
Don't get me wrong, I think Trump can be and should be criticised like any politician. However, this thread has been a container for TDS on a scale that blows my mind. Conspiracy theory, incorrect predictions, distortions and pure soy boy rage....it's all here in copious amounts....like some kind of sick and bitter tasting cocktail of progressive design. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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17 May 20 3.49pm

Don't get me wrong, I think Trump can be and should be criticised like any politician. However, this thread has been a container for TDS on a scale that blows my mind.

Conspiracy theory, incorrect predictions, distortions and pure soy boy rage....it's all here in copious amounts....like some kind of sick and bitter tasting cocktail of progressive design.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Hrolf The Ganger 17 May 20 3.53pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I didn't say that did I? I said the test might be flawed or that you cheated. Why? Because everything you say here places you, in my own opinion, firmly on the right side of politics and neither the centre nor the left. That Trump does put his head into any traps set for him just shows how dumb he is! Although he actually doesn't require any traps to prove that. He manages it every day all on his own. The MSM have a duty to expose his failures and not cover them up. So don't be surprised when they do that. Maybe your thinking is flawed. Imagine that. Irrespective of what Trump does or doesn't do, the media is heavily biased towards the Left/Liberal. Trump could be the best President ever and it would make no difference.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I didn't say that did I?

I said the test might be flawed or that you cheated. Why? Because everything you say here places you, in my own opinion, firmly on the right side of politics and neither the centre nor the left.

That Trump does put his head into any traps set for him just shows how dumb he is! Although he actually doesn't require any traps to prove that. He manages it every day all on his own.

The MSM have a duty to expose his failures and not cover them up. So don't be surprised when they do that.

Maybe your thinking is flawed. Imagine that.
Irrespective of what Trump does or doesn't do, the media is heavily biased towards the Left/Liberal. Trump could be the best President ever and it would make no difference.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 May 20 9.11pm
Originally posted by cryrst Better the devil you know though. You may get what you wish for and an even more hard line (you think) republican leader. Hardline can be managed. It's stupid and irresponsible which cannot. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 17 May 20 9.11pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Better the devil you know though. You may get what you wish for and an even more hard line (you think) republican leader.

Hardline can be managed. It's stupid and irresponsible which cannot.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 May 20 10.13pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Maybe your thinking is flawed. Imagine that. Irrespective of what Trump does or doesn't do, the media is heavily biased towards the Left/Liberal. Trump could be the best President ever and it would make no difference. My thinking may well be flawed in some minds, but not in those with both eyes and ears open and at least half a brain able to discern truth from lies. Trump is, in my opinion, by far the worst President of my lifetime. And that list includes Nixon, who was a shining beacon of honest endeavour in comparison. Many in the USA who possess a greater knowledge of all the past Presidents than me, consider him the worst ever. So to simply dismiss the media criticism of him as tribal politics is to totally miss the point. This man is an exception and exceptional men deserve exceptional treatment. Which is why he is getting it. I am used to the lack of objectivity in the Trump support base in the USA, having had many exchanges with them over the years, which continue until today. It is always though disappointing to witness it here as we are generally much better than that. To see the term "TDS" used in a recent post (not by yourself) is an example of that. The term, which in case anyone is unfamiliar is meant to be short for "Trump Derangement Syndrome" and is intended as an insult to those who criticise him. It's the standard Trump modus operandi. Never answer criticism. Attack the attacker. Counter sue those who sue as we have more money and better lawyers. He learned it from Roy Cohn and has employed it ever since. His supporters, like the good sycophantic sheep they are, parrot it endlessly. To see it here though is really disappointing. Especially as the term is actually defined in the "Urban Dictionary" as:- "Trump Derangement Syndrome, is the unwavering adoration and devotion to a political leader, beginning with Donald Trump the namesake of the disorder, extending to other forms of leadership including presidents and rulers typically of a fascist or populist nature. While the name is meant to have pejorative connotations the actual condition is characterized primarily by behaviors found in "cult of leader" or "cult of personality" scenarios." As the term doesn't appear to have made it into the major dictionaries that will have to do. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 17 May 20 10.13pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

My thinking may well be flawed in some minds, but not in those with both eyes and ears open and at least half a brain able to discern truth from lies.

Trump is, in my opinion, by far the worst President of my lifetime. And that list includes Nixon, who was a shining beacon of honest endeavour in comparison. Many in the USA who possess a greater knowledge of all the past Presidents than me, consider him the worst ever. So to simply dismiss the media criticism of him as tribal politics is to totally miss the point. This man is an exception and exceptional men deserve exceptional treatment. Which is why he is getting it.

I am used to the lack of objectivity in the Trump support base in the USA, having had many exchanges with them over the years, which continue until today.

It is always though disappointing to witness it here as we are generally much better than that.

To see the term "TDS" used in a recent post (not by yourself) is an example of that. The term, which in case anyone is unfamiliar is meant to be short for "Trump Derangement Syndrome" and is intended as an insult to those who criticise him. It's the standard Trump modus operandi. Never answer criticism. Attack the attacker. Counter sue those who sue as we have more money and better lawyers. He learned it from Roy Cohn and has employed it ever since. His supporters, like the good sycophantic sheep they are, parrot it endlessly. To see it here though is really disappointing. Especially as the term is actually defined in the "Urban Dictionary" as:-

"Trump Derangement Syndrome, is the unwavering adoration and devotion to a political leader, beginning with Donald Trump the namesake of the disorder, extending to other forms of leadership including presidents and rulers typically of a fascist or populist nature. While the name is meant to have pejorative connotations the actual condition is characterized primarily by behaviors found in "cult of leader" or "cult of personality" scenarios."

As the term doesn't appear to have made it into the major dictionaries that will have to do.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Teddy Eagle 17 May 20 10.33pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle My thinking may well be flawed in some minds, but not in those with both eyes and ears open and at least half a brain able to discern truth from lies. Trump is, in my opinion, by far the worst President of my lifetime. And that list includes Nixon, who was a shining beacon of honest endeavour in comparison. Many in the USA who possess a greater knowledge of all the past Presidents than me, consider him the worst ever. So to simply dismiss the media criticism of him as tribal politics is to totally miss the point. This man is an exception and exceptional men deserve exceptional treatment. Which is why he is getting it. I am used to the lack of objectivity in the Trump support base in the USA, having had many exchanges with them over the years, which continue until today. It is always though disappointing to witness it here as we are generally much better than that. To see the term "TDS" used in a recent post (not by yourself) is an example of that. The term, which in case anyone is unfamiliar is meant to be short for "Trump Derangement Syndrome" and is intended as an insult to those who criticise him. It's the standard Trump modus operandi. Never answer criticism. Attack the attacker. Counter sue those who sue as we have more money and better lawyers. He learned it from Roy Cohn and has employed it ever since. His supporters, like the good sycophantic sheep they are, parrot it endlessly. To see it here though is really disappointing. Especially as the term is actually defined in the "Urban Dictionary" as:- "Trump Derangement Syndrome, is the unwavering adoration and devotion to a political leader, beginning with Donald Trump the namesake of the disorder, extending to other forms of leadership including presidents and rulers typically of a fascist or populist nature. While the name is meant to have pejorative connotations the actual condition is characterized primarily by behaviors found in "cult of leader" or "cult of personality" scenarios." As the term doesn't appear to have made it into the major dictionaries that will have to do. Urban dictionary? Is that the go-to resource now? The one that defines Obamacare as “to create a sudden and ignominious failure; fiasco”?
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Teddy Eagle

17 May 20 10.33pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

My thinking may well be flawed in some minds, but not in those with both eyes and ears open and at least half a brain able to discern truth from lies.

I am used to the lack of objectivity in the Trump support base in the USA, having had many exchanges with them over the years, which continue until today.

It is always though disappointing to witness it here as we are generally much better than that.

As the term doesn't appear to have made it into the major dictionaries that will have to do.

Urban dictionary? Is that the go-to resource now? The one that defines Obamacare as “to create a sudden and ignominious failure; fiasco”?

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 May 20 12.08am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Urban dictionary? Is that the go-to resource now? The one that defines Obamacare as “to create a sudden and ignominious failure; fiasco”? Not in any way. It just happened to be the only one which provided any kind of definition so something being better than nothing was the intention. Oddly it also provides the first result if you search for "soy boy", which a more traditional dictionary describes as:- "Associated with the alt-right, soyboy is an insult used online for men seen as effeminate liberals. It comes from the myth that consuming soy products lowers testosterone levels in a man" Which is also rather apposite. Alt-right insults by Trump defenders. Who would have imagined it? For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 18 May 20 12.08am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Urban dictionary? Is that the go-to resource now? The one that defines Obamacare as “to create a sudden and ignominious failure; fiasco”?

Not in any way. It just happened to be the only one which provided any kind of definition so something being better than nothing was the intention.

Oddly it also provides the first result if you search for "soy boy", which a more traditional dictionary describes as:-

"Associated with the alt-right, soyboy is an insult used online for men seen as effeminate liberals. It comes from the myth that consuming soy products lowers testosterone levels in a man"

Which is also rather apposite. Alt-right insults by Trump defenders. Who would have imagined it?

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Teddy Eagle 18 May 20 1.01am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Not in any way. It just happened to be the only one which provided any kind of definition so something being better than nothing was the intention. Oddly it also provides the first result if you search for "soy boy", which a more traditional dictionary describes as:- "Associated with the alt-right, soyboy is an insult used online for men seen as effeminate liberals. It comes from the myth that consuming soy products lowers testosterone levels in a man" Which is also rather apposite. Alt-right insults by Trump defenders. Who would have imagined it? It also adds to the definition “ likely reduces all his arguments to labeling the opposition as "Nazis".” so isn’t entirely inaccurate.
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Teddy Eagle

18 May 20 1.01am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Not in any way. It just happened to be the only one which provided any kind of definition so something being better than nothing was the intention.

Oddly it also provides the first result if you search for "soy boy", which a more traditional dictionary describes as:-

"Associated with the alt-right, soyboy is an insult used online for men seen as effeminate liberals. It comes from the myth that consuming soy products lowers testosterone levels in a man"

Which is also rather apposite. Alt-right insults by Trump defenders. Who would have imagined it?

It also adds to the definition “ likely reduces all his arguments to labeling the opposition as "Nazis".” so isn’t entirely inaccurate.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 May 20 10.40am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle It also adds to the definition “ likely reduces all his arguments to labeling the opposition as "Nazis".” so isn’t entirely inaccurate. The labelling isn't always inaccurate either. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 18 May 20 10.40am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

It also adds to the definition “ likely reduces all his arguments to labeling the opposition as "Nazis".” so isn’t entirely inaccurate.

The labelling isn't always inaccurate either.

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Penge Eagle Beckenham 18 May 20 1.08pm
I'm old enough to remember a time when journalists were impartial... [Tweet Link]
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glazedallover Allier 18 May 20 1.12pm
Originally posted by Penge Eagle I'm old enough to remember a time when journalists were impartial... [Tweet Link] Maybe you will try it one day.
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