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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 27 Mar 20 2.12pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
That's what happen when you have a PM called Boris. Indeed it is Badger, indeed it is!
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cryrst The garden of England 27 Mar 20 4.49pm | |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Handled brilliantly by the cons.
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 28 Mar 20 3.27pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Handled brilliantly by the cons. Nothing wrong with Addo cryst, good palace area,but im more central, and is letting the Italian flights in unchecked until two weeks ago brilliant? I think we have a different understanding of the word in that case, but alas i"m not criticising everything the CONS have done, but the flight fiasco was an obvious mistake, as is not testing nhs workers and not having proper kit for them, so brilliant it is not!
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PalazioVecchio south pole 28 Mar 20 3.43pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Richard Littlejojn says Corbyn must be gutted with the Tories throwing money around like confetti it's a socialist wet dream. Reminds him of the Yvonne Fair song "It should have been me" yes, The tories spending money like a lefty government. Except for Corbyn every day is pandemic day.
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Stirlingsays 28 Mar 20 4.48pm | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
yes, The tories spending money like a lefty government. Except for Corbyn every day is pandemic day. If we get a world recession and taxes go up.....something tells me the tune will start altering.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 28 Mar 20 4.58pm | |
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will Corbyn get Diane Abbott to work the mathematics of the epidemiology ? my mates reckon the transmission is exponential, others say its on a logarithmic scale and my local fruit seller says it looks like an arithmetic progression. Email Abbott and ask is it a Binomial expansion ? the same Corbyn who accused Theresa May of being a 'stupid woman'.
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Mapletree Croydon 28 Mar 20 5.28pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Handled brilliantly by the cons. Well, no. ICU beds in the UK are well below those of our comparator countries and were running at over 90% occupancy well before this crisis - something considered troubling by The Kings Fund. The bed numbers have been going down for many years - basically during Conservative rule. Plus this particular issue has been predicted for 20 years. We should have had proper contingency plans and rapid ramp up capabilities. Further, our staffing numbers are in trouble. We can't get nurses due to the reduction in education support and the challenges put in place by immigration policies. I tried hard and had some success to bring nurses in from overseas but man it was made so hard. So you have a crippled system already, now asked to step up to a massive but predictable crisis. Simple answers - don't cripple the system in the first place, leave sensible slack for some kind of emergency and have plans for a massive emergency. Oh, and stop bed blocking by having broader social supports to allow patients to return to the community instead of emasculating them as well. Edited by Mapletree (28 Mar 2020 5.30pm)
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Hrolf The Ganger 28 Mar 20 5.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Well, no. ICU beds in the UK are well below those of our comparator countries and were running at over 90% occupancy well before this crisis - something considered troubling by The Kings Fund. The bed numbers have been going down for many years - basically during Conservative rule. Plus this particular issue has been predicted for 20 years. We should have had proper contingency plans and rapid ramp up capabilities. Further, our staffing numbers are in trouble. We can't get nurses due to the reduction in education support and the challenges put in place by immigration policies. I tried hard and had some success to bring nurses in from overseas but man it was made so hard. So you have a crippled system already, now asked to step up to a massive but predictable crisis. Simple answers - don't cripple the system in the first place, leave sensible slack for some kind of emergency and have plans for a massive emergency. Oh, and stop bed blocking by having broader social supports to allow patients to return to the community instead of emasculating them as well. Edited by Mapletree (28 Mar 2020 5.30pm)
If you can't support the government's efforts then you are part of the problem. The vast majority of people are happy with that effort so far. Ony the same old Lefty muppets are complaining. You lost the election and Brexit and Trump is up for another term so suck it up comrade.
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cryrst The garden of England 28 Mar 20 6.35pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Well, no. ICU beds in the UK are well below those of our comparator countries and were running at over 90% occupancy well before this crisis - something considered troubling by The Kings Fund. The bed numbers have been going down for many years - basically during Conservative rule. Plus this particular issue has been predicted for 20 years. We should have had proper contingency plans and rapid ramp up capabilities. Further, our staffing numbers are in trouble. We can't get nurses due to the reduction in education support and the challenges put in place by immigration policies. I tried hard and had some success to bring nurses in from overseas but man it was made so hard. So you have a crippled system already, now asked to step up to a massive but predictable crisis. Simple answers - don't cripple the system in the first place, leave sensible slack for some kind of emergency and have plans for a massive emergency. Oh, and stop bed blocking by having broader social supports to allow patients to return to the community instead of emasculating them as well. Edited by Mapletree (28 Mar 2020 5.30pm) "A predictable crisis" you maple are up there with the sickest post ever with that line.
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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 28 Mar 20 7.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Well, no. ICU beds in the UK are well below those of our comparator countries and were running at over 90% occupancy well before this crisis - something considered troubling by The Kings Fund. The bed numbers have been going down for many years - basically during Conservative rule. Plus this particular issue has been predicted for 20 years. We should have had proper contingency plans and rapid ramp up capabilities. Further, our staffing numbers are in trouble. We can't get nurses due to the reduction in education support and the challenges put in place by immigration policies. I tried hard and had some success to bring nurses in from overseas but man it was made so hard. So you have a crippled system already, now asked to step up to a massive but predictable crisis. Simple answers - don't cripple the system in the first place, leave sensible slack for some kind of emergency and have plans for a massive emergency. Oh, and stop bed blocking by having broader social supports to allow patients to return to the community instead of emasculating them as well. Edited by Mapletree (28 Mar 2020 5.30pm) Spoken like a true loser
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Mapletree Croydon 28 Mar 20 11.53pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
"A predictable crisis" you maple are up there with the sickest post ever with that line. What are you talking about. This was always coming. Which is why I had a plan prepared for my business. If the NHS had one it wasn’t very good. Far too few ventilators and trained staff. How can you not see the NHS has been put in a horribly weakened position by multiple poor choices leading up to this? Now we need to buy time and do what we are good at, find a way. But don’t pretend we were anywhere near where we should have been when this kicked off.
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Mapletree Croydon 28 Mar 20 11.59pm | |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Spoken like a true loser That just means nothing Try getting some facts. I suggest The Kings Fund as a good place to start.
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