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 Mattconrov  30 Jul 23 10.31am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Even if half of that whitewashing was true it doesn't change the fact that Farage is making a fuss about his own closure, and now trying to make political capital out of others, whilst ignoring the many more that happened as a direct result of Brexit. That's the subject. Not how the deal we ended up with was negotiated.
As I've already said Farage and everyone else who voted yes(God bless those people) wanted a deal. It was the E U our government and bitter remainers who wanted it to fail. Those are the people to blame for this. Least of all Farage. You can call Farage hypocritical if you want. That's your opinion. However he was certainly not to blame for the banks closing down peoples accounts. That's the most important thing I actually agree with you that Nigel should have mentioned the bank closures for Brits abroad a few years ago. But not for the reasons you state. This would have shone a light again back on the E U Fascists. Nigel probably missed a trick here. That would have got him "more political gain. Edited by Mattconrov (30 Jul 2023 10.39am)
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| Mattconrov 30 Jul 23 10.55am |
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In my opinion this thread should be more about bank closures. Because of Nigels cult of personality. It has become about him and not the more important aspect of closing down ordinary folks bank accounts. Edited by Mattconrov (30 Jul 2023 10.56am)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 10.58am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
How is it not true about Private Godfrey in the White House? It's only an, rather rude and disrespectful, opinion. Other opinions exist. You know as well as I do what a non sequitur is. Have you though seen the giant sequoia trees in California? They are seriously big boys!
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| Stirlingsays 30 Jul 23 10.59am |
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Lies were told on both sides of the 2016 referendum. But those were for the normies....not an insult term....as I've been one for most of my life. The 'normie' title describes the non political person who doesn't have time to investigate claims and just accepts them as true....usually as they confirm their existing bias.....but the normie won't look at the claim regardless of whether they are from the left or right or centre. Most of us are normies about most things, because we just don't know that much about them....or more pointedly not that interested in that topic. Anyone who looked into Brexit saw that the initial impact was going to be a GDP reduction of around 4 percent and I said that years ago on here. It wasn't hard to find that out....and it could be found from non biased sources....which also were available, just not promoted as loudly as the opposing sides. For me Brexit was never about GDP, 'line go up' (which apparently doesn't matter to the left on climate change). It was about immigration and independence. Both have been betrayed. Democracy doesn't work properly because essentially it's run for business and donors instead of for the masses or non rich and increasingly even middle class.....they just give you bread and circuses and hope you don't notice. That's not me saying that Democracy isn't probably the best system....rather it's me saying that it's been corrupted and disfigured and has been for a long time....perhaps it always was. It's like libertarianism or the welfare state for the poor or taxes for corporations and the rich. In principle, they are all noble and correct ideas. In practice they are gamed.....the poor have less to be ashamed about in that regard. Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Jul 2023 11.03am)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 11.11am |
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Originally posted by Mattconrov
As I've already said Farage and everyone else who voted yes(God bless those people) wanted a deal. It was the E U our government and bitter remainers who wanted it to fail. Those are the people to blame for this. Least of all Farage. You can call Farage hypocritical if you want. That's your opinion. However he was certainly not to blame for the banks closing down peoples accounts. That's the most important thing I actually agree with you that Nigel should have mentioned the bank closures for Brits abroad a few years ago. But not for the reasons you state. This would have shone a light again back on the E U Fascists. Nigel probably missed a trick here. That would have got him "more political gain. Edited by Mattconrov (30 Jul 2023 10.39am) Farage didn't want a deal! He advocated a "no deal" Brexit. That would have made things even worse than they were, so whilst your attempts to get him off the hook might fool some of his admirers, they don't actually provide any sanctuary. The blame for this situation falls squarely on the UK. They took the action, not the UK. The EU didn't push us out. We left. I can well understand why he hasn't raised the issue because it would expose his hypocrisy to all and commentators would rip him apart. In fact, I think he is now being very foolish in trying to widen the issue beyond himself as the post-Brexit closures will soon be raised again and he will be forced on the back foot.
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| Mattconrov 30 Jul 23 11.24am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Farage didn't want a deal! He advocated a "no deal" Brexit. He o That would have made things even worse than they were, so whilst your attempts to get him off the hook might fool some of his admirers, they don't actually provide any sanctuary. The blame for this situation falls squarely on the UK. They took the action, not the UK. The EU didn't push us out. We left. I can well understand why he hasn't raised the issue because it would expose his hypocrisy to all and commentators would rip him apart. In fact, I think he is now being very foolish in trying to widen the issue beyond himself as the post-Brexit closures will soon be raised again and he will be forced on the back foot. I can see why you wind up people on here. Lol. Good for you.we certainly need a different opinion; otherwise we might become lazy. Farage did not want a no deal Brexit after winning the referendum. After years of this government and the E U fascists not wanting to do a deal. He then may have said (I can't remember) let's have a no deal Brexit. That would have been our only recourse for calling them out. He actually offered Johnson a no deal Brexit in August 2019. 3 years after the vote. I just checked. Nice try Mr Wisbech but. No cigar. I'm certainly not trying to get him of f the hook. There is no hook to start with. I've been critical of Nigel for his comments on "covid" for one. I'll call out people if I think they have done wrong. Edited by Mattconrov (30 Jul 2023 11.27am) Edited by Mattconrov (30 Jul 2023 11.33am)
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| Mattconrov 30 Jul 23 11.59am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Lies were told on both sides of the 2016 referendum. But those were for the normies....not an insult term....as I've been one for most of my life. The 'normie' title describes the non political person who doesn't have time to investigate claims and just accepts them as true....usually as they confirm their existing bias.....but the normie won't look at the claim regardless of whether they are from the left or right or centre. Most of us are normies about most things, because we just don't know that much about them....or more pointedly not that interested in that topic. Anyone who looked into Brexit saw that the initial impact was going to be a GDP reduction of around 4 percent and I said that years ago on here. It wasn't hard to find that out....and it could be found from non biased sources....which also were available, just not promoted as loudly as the opposing sides. For me Brexit was never about GDP, 'line go up' (which apparently doesn't matter to the left on climate change). It was about immigration and independence. Both have been betrayed. Democracy doesn't work properly because essentially it's run for business and donors instead of for the masses or non rich and increasingly even middle class.....they just give you bread and circuses and hope you don't notice. That's not me saying that Democracy isn't probably the best system....rather it's me saying that it's been corrupted and disfigured and has been for a long time....perhaps it always was. It's like libertarianism or the welfare state for the poor or taxes for corporations and the rich. In principle, they are all noble and correct ideas. In practice they are gamed.....the poor have less to be ashamed about in that regard. Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Jul 2023 11.03am) The one thing that remainers never talk about when discussing Britains financial situation is "covid" They blame it would on Brexit which in reality is only about 2 years old. They also blame the war in Ukraine. What they never mention is the 300 billion plus pounds of money wasted on a flu pandemic and to pay millions to sit at home all day. Add that to every other countries response and I think I can guess why we are in a financial mess. Edited by Mattconrov (30 Jul 2023 12.02pm) Edited by Mattconrov (30 Jul 2023 12.03pm)
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| Stirlingsays 30 Jul 23 12.48pm |
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Originally posted by Mattconrov
They blame it would on Brexit which in reality is only about 2 years old. They also blame the war in Ukraine. What they never mention is the 300 billion plus pounds of money wasted on a flu pandemic and to pay millions to sit at home all day. Add that to every other countries response and I think I can guess why we are in a financial mess. Edited by Mattconrov (30 Jul 2023 12.02pm) Edited by Mattconrov (30 Jul 2023 12.03pm) Indeed. In reality they have no issues with policies that create financial disasters. For them covid was an existential crises so their needs mattered far more than the needs of generations to come. Though I was told that hope of paying this stuff back ended in 2008. Anyway it's this 'me, me' thinking that has pretty much the thinking that has destroyed the country economically for at least a generation to come. As the debt piles rises higher so do the interest payments on it, bigger than the defence budget apparently.....just how do people think that's going to go? The same nation that produced Captain Smith who went down with his ship out of duty and saved the women and children first is the same nation that today hmmm and rrrrs over what a woman is. Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Jul 2023 12.50pm)
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 30 Jul 23 12.55pm |
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A point I was trying to make, is that with banks non-disclosure policies, things like this shouldn't have happened. Where do we think this Lottery winner keeps his money ? Loads of convicts and rich people with unscrupulous financial incomes, such as arms dealers, adult-material producers have had their identifies kept from the public as far as their banking activities. And rightly so. Farage's political activities were entirely legal, and endorsed by the majority of the population. Why should Farage have to go through this stuff because someone in the bank didn't like him ? Well, she's gone and lost her job. Boo hoo.
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| Stirlingsays 30 Jul 23 1.02pm |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
A point I was trying to make, is that with banks non-disclosure policies, things like this shouldn't have happened. Where do we think this Lottery winner keeps his money ? Loads of convicts and rich people with unscrupulous financial incomes, such as arms dealers, adult-material producers have had their identifies kept from the public as far as their banking activities. And rightly so. Farage's political activities were entirely legal, and endorsed by the majority of the population. Why should Farage have to go through this stuff because someone in the bank didn't like him ? Well, she's gone and lost her job. Boo hoo.
Just one observation. How on earth do we have a situation where serious criminals are legally allowed to buy lottery tickets? But if they are and win then why are they spending all that money on lawyers contesting it?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 1.13pm |
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Originally posted by Mattconrov
I can see why you wind up people on here. Lol. Good for you.we certainly need a different opinion; otherwise we might become lazy. Farage did not want a no deal Brexit after winning the referendum. After years of this government and the E U fascists not wanting to do a deal. He then may have said (I can't remember) let's have a no deal Brexit. That would have been our only recourse for calling them out. He actually offered Johnson a no deal Brexit in August 2019. 3 years after the vote. I just checked. Nice try Mr Wisbech but. No cigar. I'm certainly not trying to get him of f the hook. There is no hook to start with. I've been critical of Nigel for his comments on "covid" for one. I'll call out people if I think they have done wrong. Edited by Mattconrov (30 Jul 2023 11.27am) Edited by Mattconrov (30 Jul 2023 11.33am) Nobody was really talking about a "deal" during the Brexit campaign. It was all part of the con trick. It was just suggested that making new arrangements was simplicity itself as it was as much in the EU's interest as ours because of our importance to them as customers. Things changed later. Remember Johnson's "oven-ready" deal that enabled him to further con people he could deliver Brexit. Farage was advocating a "clean break" for a long time and trying to push the Tories into accepting it through an election pact. Read this:- Your judgement seems clouded by your emotional attitude about the EU, evidenced by the use of terms like "fascists", which is so far from reality to be quite amusing. None of this though is really the point, which is that, for whatever reason, people lost their UK bank accounts as a consequence of Brexit, something Farage advocated for many years, welcomed unreservedly and still believes was necessary. To ignore that, whilst working himself into a faux rage over current account closures, is indicative of the fake nature of the man.
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Teddy Eagle  30 Jul 23 1.34pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Nobody was really talking about a "deal" during the Brexit campaign. It was all part of the con trick. It was just suggested that making new arrangements was simplicity itself as it was as much in the EU's interest as ours because of our importance to them as customers. Things changed later. Remember Johnson's "oven-ready" deal that enabled him to further con people he could deliver Brexit. Farage was advocating a "clean break" for a long time and trying to push the Tories into accepting it through an election pact. Read this:- Your judgement seems clouded by your emotional attitude about the EU, evidenced by the use of terms like "fascists", which is so far from reality to be quite amusing. None of this though is really the point, which is that, for whatever reason, people lost their UK bank accounts as a consequence of Brexit, something Farage advocated for many years, welcomed unreservedly and still believes was necessary. To ignore that, whilst working himself into a faux rage over current account closures, is indicative of the fake nature of the man. Must make it worse that such a fake and fraud achieved what he set out to do.
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