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Hrolf The Ganger 06 Jun 20 12.57pm | |
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Originally posted by Belmont
I suppose there is a difference between you and me I was told that I didn't belong in this country I had bad BO I shouldn't be going out with a white person but I don't have a bad view of the white community I take as I find.
If people have a problem with immigration then that is a political decision making issue. No one has a problem with an individual looking for a better life in another place. They should be judged on their actions thereafter like everyone else is.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 06 Jun 20 12.57pm | |
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Originally posted by Belmont
I suppose there is a difference between you and me I was told that I didn't belong in this country I had bad BO I shouldn't be going out with a white person but I don't have a bad view of the white community I take as I find. When was this?
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cryrst The garden of England 06 Jun 20 12.58pm | |
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Originally posted by Belmont
Ok fair enough you are entitled to believe what you believe, but you stated with such surety why I was wrong I would have thought you would have had some more factual evidence to back it up than that, but I'll leave this one there as we will end up going round in circles. You have written the ultimate BS with your first 11 words. That is not the case. Unconscious bias in a negative way against BAME is now being treated as racism so what chance has verbally giving your beliefs got. It's got a criminal record, the sack and certain vilification written all over it. And sadly that is where this is going. I have asked before as to whether you can be a little bit racist. I can be a little bit of every other no no as different crimes have different descriptions and sentences if it gets to that level. But would you clarify why I cant be a little racist. If you cant answer with anything but no how can this ever be resolved.
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cryrst The garden of England 06 Jun 20 12.59pm | |
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Originally posted by Belmont
I suppose there is a difference between you and me I was told that I didn't belong in this country I had bad BO I shouldn't be going out with a white person but I don't have a bad view of the white community I take as I find. Did you have BO
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 06 Jun 20 1.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Belmont
I suppose there is a difference between you and me I was told that I didn't belong in this country I had bad BO I shouldn't be going out with a white person but I don't have a bad view of the white community I take as I find. I don’t see the difference? Sounds like you were subject to very archetypal racism unless you don’t agree? I’d find it hard to believe that doesn’t leave you with some conscious or unconscious bias towards an albeit vast white community? For example, I would have associated the attitudes you described when I got caught in town whilst the pro-brexit protests were happening last summer and passed by a swarm of skin heads, cans of Stella and union jacks. Doesn’t mean that’s representative of all those who voted out or all those that were there even... but I thought it nonetheless. I’d find it hard to believe this didn’t affect you at all, even on an unconscious level? This is where all sides need some learning.
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Belmont 06 Jun 20 1.29pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
You have written the ultimate BS with your first 11 words. That is not the case. Unconscious bias in a negative way against BAME is now being treated as racism so what chance has verbally giving your beliefs got. It's got a criminal record, the sack and certain vilification written all over it. And sadly that is where this is going. I have asked before as to whether you can be a little bit racist. I can be a little bit of every other no no as different crimes have different descriptions and sentences if it gets to that level. But would you clarify why I cant be a little racist. If you cant answer with anything but no how can this ever be resolved. I was talking about Hrolf specifically not generally so if you think it's bulls*** for him to believe what he belive' that's up to you, but I'll let him deal with that one.
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Belmont 06 Jun 20 1.31pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Did you have BO Sorry I think an apology on my behalf is in order, if I realised you didn't get nuance I would have made my point a little clearer. No I don't, clearer?
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Belmont 06 Jun 20 1.33pm | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
I don’t see the difference? Sounds like you were subject to very archetypal racism unless you don’t agree? I’d find it hard to believe that doesn’t leave you with some conscious or unconscious bias towards an albeit vast white community? For example, I would have associated the attitudes you described when I got caught in town whilst the pro-brexit protests were happening last summer and passed by a swarm of skin heads, cans of Stella and union jacks. Doesn’t mean that’s representative of all those who voted out or all those that were there even... but I thought it nonetheless. I’d find it hard to believe this didn’t affect you at all, even on an unconscious level? This is where all sides need some learning. I didn't say it didn't affect me I just don't view all white people the same as those skin heads.
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cryrst The garden of England 06 Jun 20 1.33pm | |
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Originally posted by Belmont
I was talking about Hrolf specifically not generally so if you think it's bulls*** for him to believe what he belive' that's up to you, but I'll let him deal with that one. And I was generising about your first 11 words.
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BlueJay UK 06 Jun 20 1.33pm | |
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Originally posted by Belmont
What's your racial background? Apologies if you've already answered.
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Belmont 06 Jun 20 1.36pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
You have written the ultimate BS with your first 11 words. That is not the case. Unconscious bias in a negative way against BAME is now being treated as racism so what chance has verbally giving your beliefs got. It's got a criminal record, the sack and certain vilification written all over it. And sadly that is where this is going. I have asked before as to whether you can be a little bit racist. I can be a little bit of every other no no as different crimes have different descriptions and sentences if it gets to that level. But would you clarify why I cant be a little racist. If you cant answer with anything but no how can this ever be resolved. I'm not entirely sure what a little bit racist is if I'm being honest, you mean you only like a certain race only part of the time or they are alright but the rest aren't, what does it mean?
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Belmont 06 Jun 20 1.37pm | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
What's your racial background? Apologies if you've already answered. My father was from Trinidad my mother from Lincolnshire.
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