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Hrolf The Ganger 02 Jan 18 2.08pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Go on... Yes, you do.
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02 Jan 18 2.08pm

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Originally posted by nickgusset

Go on...

Yes, you do.

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Stirlingsays 02 Jan 18 2.08pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Yes. A brilliant leader in wartime to whom who we owe an enormous debt of gratitude, he brought us Victory against Nazis and fascists (wonder what he'd make of Farage) but was also a c.* [Link] Voted greatest Briton. Don't give a damn what you think. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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02 Jan 18 2.08pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Yes. A brilliant leader in wartime to whom who we owe an enormous debt of gratitude, he brought us Victory against Nazis and fascists (wonder what he'd make of Farage) but was also a c***.

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Voted greatest Briton.

Don't give a damn what you think.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 02 Jan 18 2.13pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Voted greatest Briton. Don't give a damn what you think. Oh no. Stirling doesn't care. Mum, mum, Stirling doesn't care what I think. I care what you think, it worries me. It worries me that there are others with a similar outlook and viewpoint out there. But only because I love my country. Edited by nickgusset (02 Jan 2018 2.15pm)
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Shizzlehurst 02 Jan 18 2.13pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Voted greatest Briton.

Don't give a damn what you think.

Oh no. Stirling doesn't care. Mum, mum, Stirling doesn't care what I think.

I care what you think, it worries me. It worries me that there are others with a similar outlook and viewpoint out there. But only because I love my country.

Edited by nickgusset (02 Jan 2018 2.15pm)

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Stirlingsays 02 Jan 18 2.16pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 I think there is a grey area around calling for violence and promoting causes and ideologies that feed into violence. We see a problem with this in the US where rhetoric that doesn't explicitly call for violence does feed into prejudice and hate crimes. Whilst calling someone an abomnation to god, for example, isn't explictly stating violence should be pursued, it would be a stretch to say it isn't inciting violence (esp from Religious groups, given that such an affront to god is something to be 'destroyed'). Of course, it would need to be proven in a court of law that there was a direct threat, and that use of such language correlated with attacks, to a reasonable level, or malicious intent and a connection between the speaker and the perpetrator. It cannot just be explict threats of violence, veiled threats need to be considered to. We should be free to speak, but not free from the consequences of those statements. These are the imperfections of reality. I don't disagree that some positions...in fact many positions can lead to violence when taken to their edges but I'm suspicious of the motives of those that start building blocks of policy onto that.....it's shifting sand. It's not illegal to not to like groups......it's not against the law to dislike Jews or gays or Brighton supporters. There is opinion and there is action. We should be able to argue the irrationality and rationality of certain positions without fear of censor from overbearing overlords who think they know better. Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Jan 2018 2.23pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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02 Jan 18 2.16pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I think there is a grey area around calling for violence and promoting causes and ideologies that feed into violence. We see a problem with this in the US where rhetoric that doesn't explicitly call for violence does feed into prejudice and hate crimes. Whilst calling someone an abomnation to god, for example, isn't explictly stating violence should be pursued, it would be a stretch to say it isn't inciting violence (esp from Religious groups, given that such an affront to god is something to be 'destroyed').

Of course, it would need to be proven in a court of law that there was a direct threat, and that use of such language correlated with attacks, to a reasonable level, or malicious intent and a connection between the speaker and the perpetrator.

It cannot just be explict threats of violence, veiled threats need to be considered to. We should be free to speak, but not free from the consequences of those statements.

These are the imperfections of reality.

I don't disagree that some positions...in fact many positions can lead to violence when taken to their edges but I'm suspicious of the motives of those that start building blocks of policy onto that.....it's shifting sand.

It's not illegal to not to like groups......it's not against the law to dislike Jews or gays or Brighton supporters. There is opinion and there is action.

We should be able to argue the irrationality and rationality of certain positions without fear of censor from overbearing overlords who think they know better.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Jan 2018 2.23pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 02 Jan 18 2.22pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Oh no. Stirling doesn't care. Mum, mum, Stirling doesn't care what I think. I care what you think, it worries me. It worries me that there are others with a similar outlook and viewpoint out there. But only because I love my country. Edited by nickgusset (02 Jan 2018 2.15pm) Gusset the patriot.....always worth a laugh that one. I'm glad I worry you. I think people with your opinions are very damaging for the country and for the welfare of my class. I almost want Corbyn to win just so that you receive the condemnation that comes with his failure. We have a whole generation that are too young to realise the lies the far left tell them about what is possible. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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02 Jan 18 2.22pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Oh no. Stirling doesn't care. Mum, mum, Stirling doesn't care what I think.

I care what you think, it worries me. It worries me that there are others with a similar outlook and viewpoint out there. But only because I love my country.

Edited by nickgusset (02 Jan 2018 2.15pm)

Gusset the patriot.....always worth a laugh that one.

I'm glad I worry you. I think people with your opinions are very damaging for the country and for the welfare of my class.

I almost want Corbyn to win just so that you receive the condemnation that comes with his failure. We have a whole generation that are too young to realise the lies the far left tell them about what is possible.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 02 Jan 18 2.30pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Gusset the patriot.....always worth a laugh that one. I'm glad I worry you. I think people with your opinions are very damaging for the country and for the welfare of my class. I almost want Corbyn to win just so that you receive the condemnation that comes with his failure. We have a whole generation that are too young to realise the lies the far left tell them about what is possible. Yep you support the party of murderers. As seen in the news article earlier. Also I heard that Nigel applied for German Citizenship. I'm going to repeat it even though the claim might be dubious. It's quite enjoyable adopting the tactics of how those from 'the other side ' carry on. [Tweet Link] Edited by nickgusset (02 Jan 2018 2.32pm) Edit. Question for mods. How come Stirling posted after this thread was locked? See attachment. Edited by nickgusset (02 Jan 2018 2.41pm) Edit 2. Q.2 How come I can edit a locked thread? Q.3 Where will the responses to these questions be found? Edited by nickgusset (02 Jan 2018 2.43pm) Attachment: Screenshot_20180102-143838.png (700.40Kb)
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Shizzlehurst 02 Jan 18 2.30pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Gusset the patriot.....always worth a laugh that one.

I'm glad I worry you. I think people with your opinions are very damaging for the country and for the welfare of my class.

Yep you support the party of murderers. As seen in the news article earlier.

Also I heard that Nigel applied for German Citizenship. I'm going to repeat it even though the claim might be dubious. It's quite enjoyable adopting the tactics of how those from 'the other side ' carry on.

[Tweet Link]

Edited by nickgusset (02 Jan 2018 2.32pm)

Edit. Question for mods.
How come Stirling posted after this thread was locked? See attachment.

Edited by nickgusset (02 Jan 2018 2.41pm)

Edit 2. Q.2 How come I can edit a locked thread?
Q.3 Where will the responses to these questions be found?

Edited by nickgusset (02 Jan 2018 2.43pm)

Attachment: Screenshot_20180102-143838.png (700.40Kb)

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Midlands Eagle 02 Jan 18 2.32pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Oh no. Stirling doesn't care. Mum, mum, Stirling doesn't care what I think. As we have now plunged to the depths of childish insults it must be time to close this thread
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Originally posted by nickgusset

Oh no. Stirling doesn't care. Mum, mum, Stirling doesn't care what I think.

As we have now plunged to the depths of childish insults it must be time to close this thread

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Stirlingsays 02 Jan 18 2.36pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Yep you support the party of murderers. As seen in the news article earlier. Also I heard that Nigel applied for German Citizenship. I'm going to repeat it even though the claim might be dubious. It's quite enjoyable adopting the tactics of how those from 'the other side ' carry on. Edited by nickgusset (02 Jan 2018 2.32pm) You know....probably the only thing I like about you Nick is that you are a bit of a troll.....don't give us this 'adopting' tactics...you've been like this for years. You go too far sometimes and aren't the most ethical but then again most trolls aren't. You like to attack and I don't have a problem with that.....even if it's mostly a load of old cobblers. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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02 Jan 18 2.36pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Yep you support the party of murderers. As seen in the news article earlier.

Edited by nickgusset (02 Jan 2018 2.32pm)

You know....probably the only thing I like about you Nick is that you are a bit of a troll.....don't give us this 'adopting' tactics...you've been like this for years.

You go too far sometimes and aren't the most ethical but then again most trolls aren't.

You like to attack and I don't have a problem with that.....even if it's mostly a load of old cobblers.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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