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est1905 10 Sep 19 5.15pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'The Wilfried Zaha Thread' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by ASCPFC They were miles better than us even though they weren't that good. We weren't in the game at all. They won easily. Fair enough about the table but my point stands. We slightly beat Villa and lost slightly to Sheffield Utd. We got lucky at Man U. Hardly European contenders - as someone else also said - how the f*** would our squad compete in Europe? You have forgotten us getting slightly beaten by Colchester too. Doom and gloom before a ball kicked was jumping the gun but suddenly European contenders is miles off the mark. This - we will be incredibly lucky to get tenth place with our squad. My pre-season prediction was 16th and I'm not changing that yet. Despite some organised performances, our squad is the weakest I can see in the Premier League, whilst our first 11 is distinctly pretty average. I never said we were European contenders nor did I comment on any of the other games you mentioned (although for the record we completely played Villa off the park and but for woeful finishing and Heaton being in amazing form we'd have won that game by 5 goals at least regardless of whether their goal was allowed or not). I simply pulled you up on the thrashing comment by Sheff Untd. They didn't thrash us, they marginally beat us. They were poor, we were worse simple as that. We are not European contenders and I imagine we'll finish around mid table but there are too many pessimists that support Palace. We are not as awful as some like to make out and over the 38 games there will prove to be a lot of clubs more awful than us!
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Originally posted by ASCPFC

They were miles better than us even though they weren't that good. We weren't in the game at all. They won easily. Fair enough about the table but my point stands. We slightly beat Villa and lost slightly to Sheffield Utd. We got lucky at Man U. Hardly European contenders - as someone else also said - how the f*** would our squad compete in Europe? You have forgotten us getting slightly beaten by Colchester too.
Doom and gloom before a ball kicked was jumping the gun but suddenly European contenders is miles off the mark.
This - we will be incredibly lucky to get tenth place with our squad. My pre-season prediction was 16th and I'm not changing that yet.
Despite some organised performances, our squad is the weakest I can see in the Premier League, whilst our first 11 is distinctly pretty average.

I never said we were European contenders nor did I comment on any of the other games you mentioned (although for the record we completely played Villa off the park and but for woeful finishing and Heaton being in amazing form we'd have won that game by 5 goals at least regardless of whether their goal was allowed or not).
I simply pulled you up on the thrashing comment by Sheff Untd. They didn't thrash us, they marginally beat us. They were poor, we were worse simple as that.
We are not European contenders and I imagine we'll finish around mid table but there are too many pessimists that support Palace. We are not as awful as some like to make out and over the 38 games there will prove to be a lot of clubs more awful than us!

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Sep 19 5.30pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'The Wilfried Zaha Thread' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by est1905 I never said we were European contenders nor did I comment on any of the other games you mentioned (although for the record we completely played Villa off the park and but for woeful finishing and Heaton being in amazing form we'd have won that game by 5 goals at least regardless of whether their goal was allowed or not). I simply pulled you up on the thrashing comment by Sheff Untd. They didn't thrash us, they marginally beat us. They were poor, we were worse simple as that. We are not European contenders and I imagine we'll finish around mid table but there are too many pessimists that support Palace. We are not as awful as some like to make out and over the 38 games there will prove to be a lot of clubs more awful than us! Fair enough, I'm not entirely disagreeing with you. We will have to disagree on the Sheffield Utd game. I didn't go. I watched on TV - if you were there may have seemed different. To me, we looked a division lower than them throughout. If you knew nothing about football you would find it hard to believe we were the established side and they were the new boys. We might finish above a handful of teams - Sheffield Utd might be one. I have predicted 16th - you're entirely welcome to predict higher. It wasn't you I was fully replying to, it was the suddenly we are great people really. I'm still thinking we are going to have a few Sheffield Utd performances. We have Norwich coming up and don't think we will win. I thought the Villa performance was decent too. However, isn't it quite telling the margin was so low? There are issues here and I'm getting a bit fed up with them being glossed over by us just ticking over. Eighth season and grinding out a few one Nils with one upset a year. I would like a new stand and some exciting young talent. I guess I'm asking for far too much. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Sep 19 5.30pm

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Originally posted by est1905

Fair enough, I'm not entirely disagreeing with you. We will have to disagree on the Sheffield Utd game. I didn't go. I watched on TV - if you were there may have seemed different.
To me, we looked a division lower than them throughout. If you knew nothing about football you would find it hard to believe we were the established side and they were the new boys.
We might finish above a handful of teams - Sheffield Utd might be one. I have predicted 16th - you're entirely welcome to predict higher.
It wasn't you I was fully replying to, it was the suddenly we are great people really. I'm still thinking we are going to have a few Sheffield Utd performances. We have Norwich coming up and don't think we will win.
I thought the Villa performance was decent too. However, isn't it quite telling the margin was so low? There are issues here and I'm getting a bit fed up with them being glossed over by us just ticking over. Eighth season and grinding out a few one Nils with one upset a year.
I would like a new stand and some exciting young talent. I guess I'm asking for far too much.

Red and Blue Army!

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kennybrowns leftfoot Reigate 10 Sep 19 10.13pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'The Wilfried Zaha Thread' by Midlands Eagle Wilf strikes me as a lad who likes his home comforts.. I can’t see him wanting to move outside of London.. I always remember reading Brian Cloughs autobiography years ago when he signed Teddy Sheringham for Forest. Sheringham didn’t stay long and Clough said it was because he was terribly homesick and missed London... Clough said ‘Apparently Londoners miss London... A place I wouldn’t work no matter how much you paid me’.. I reckon this type of scenario would apply to Wilf. Don't waste your time with jealousy. Sometimes your ahead, sometimes your behind, the race is long. But in the end it's only with yourself!!
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Wilf strikes me as a lad who likes his home comforts.. I can’t see him wanting to move outside of London..

I always remember reading Brian Cloughs autobiography years ago when he signed Teddy Sheringham for Forest. Sheringham didn’t stay long and Clough said it was because he was terribly homesick and missed London...

Clough said ‘Apparently Londoners miss London... A place I wouldn’t work no matter how much you paid me’..

I reckon this type of scenario would apply to Wilf.

Don't waste your time with jealousy. Sometimes your ahead, sometimes your behind, the race is long. But in the end it's only with yourself!!

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Sep 19 11.21pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'The Wilfried Zaha Thread' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot Wilf strikes me as a lad who likes his home comforts.. I can’t see him wanting to move outside of London.. I always remember reading Brian Cloughs autobiography years ago when he signed Teddy Sheringham for Forest. Sheringham didn’t stay long and Clough said it was because he was terribly homesick and missed London... Clough said ‘Apparently Londoners miss London... A place I wouldn’t work no matter how much you paid me’.. I reckon this type of scenario would apply to Wilf. I remember his deleted tweet from Manchester basically saying 'What am I supposed to do here, place is boring, can't even get a decent pizza' or words to that effect. Red and Blue Army!
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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

Wilf strikes me as a lad who likes his home comforts.. I can’t see him wanting to move outside of London..

Clough said ‘Apparently Londoners miss London... A place I wouldn’t work no matter how much you paid me’..

I reckon this type of scenario would apply to Wilf.

I remember his deleted tweet from Manchester basically saying 'What am I supposed to do here, place is boring, can't even get a decent pizza' or words to that effect.

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est1905 11 Sep 19 5.37pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'The Wilfried Zaha Thread' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by ASCPFC Fair enough, I'm not entirely disagreeing with you. We will have to disagree on the Sheffield Utd game. I didn't go. I watched on TV - if you were there may have seemed different. To me, we looked a division lower than them throughout. If you knew nothing about football you would find it hard to believe we were the established side and they were the new boys. We might finish above a handful of teams - Sheffield Utd might be one. I have predicted 16th - you're entirely welcome to predict higher. It wasn't you I was fully replying to, it was the suddenly we are great people really. I'm still thinking we are going to have a few Sheffield Utd performances. We have Norwich coming up and don't think we will win. I thought the Villa performance was decent too. However, isn't it quite telling the margin was so low? There are issues here and I'm getting a bit fed up with them being glossed over by us just ticking over. Eighth season and grinding out a few one Nils with one upset a year. I would like a new stand and some exciting young talent. I guess I'm asking for far too much. I dont actually think we are too far apart in our opinions. Reading what you have put above, much of which I agree with. Not all but much.
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Originally posted by ASCPFC

I dont actually think we are too far apart in our opinions. Reading what you have put above, much of which I agree with. Not all but much.

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RyWa Beckenham 12 Sep 19 9.15am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'The Wilfried Zaha Thread' by Midlands Eagle By all accounts hes filed the motion to sack his agent Will Salthouse. If you believe reports his reasoning is because.. 1) He didnt get him the move he wanted away from Palace 2) Will Salthouse is too close to Parish and Palace.. Wilf thinks there may be some biased happenings in favour of Parish and not him...i.e him not getting his dream move to Everton he so badly wants. I do agree there must be some sort of conflict of interest there now..
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By all accounts hes filed the motion to sack his agent Will Salthouse.
If you believe reports his reasoning is because..

1) He didnt get him the move he wanted away from Palace

2) Will Salthouse is too close to Parish and Palace.. Wilf thinks there may be some biased happenings in favour of Parish and not him...i.e him not getting his dream move to Everton he so badly wants.

I do agree there must be some sort of conflict of interest there now..

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bexleydave Barnehurst 12 Sep 19 9.28am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'The Wilfried Zaha Thread' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by RyWa By all accounts hes filed the motion to sack his agent Will Salthouse. If you believe reports his reasoning is because.. 1) He didnt get him the move he wanted away from Palace 2) Will Salthouse is too close to Parish and Palace.. Wilf thinks there may be some biased happenings in favour of Parish and not him...i.e him not getting his dream move to Everton he so badly wants. I do agree there must be some sort of conflict of interest there now.. How times change! It wasn't so long ago that Parish was wasting away a transfer window, travelling to Spain and smoozing Zaha with more cash, but the moment the poor little rich boy can't do exactly as he wants..."dream move to Everton" my arse. Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)
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Originally posted by RyWa

By all accounts hes filed the motion to sack his agent Will Salthouse.
If you believe reports his reasoning is because..

1) He didnt get him the move he wanted away from Palace

I do agree there must be some sort of conflict of interest there now..

How times change! It wasn't so long ago that Parish was wasting away a transfer window, travelling to Spain and smoozing Zaha with more cash, but the moment the poor little rich boy can't do exactly as he wants..."dream move to Everton" my arse.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

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steeleye20 Croydon 12 Sep 19 10.03am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'The Wilfried Zaha Thread' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by RyWa By all accounts hes filed the motion to sack his agent Will Salthouse. If you believe reports his reasoning is because.. 1) He didnt get him the move he wanted away from Palace 2) Will Salthouse is too close to Parish and Palace.. Wilf thinks there may be some biased happenings in favour of Parish and not him...i.e him not getting his dream move to Everton he so badly wants. I do agree there must be some sort of conflict of interest there now.. Does he have to have an agent? Feels like someone owns you.
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Originally posted by RyWa

By all accounts hes filed the motion to sack his agent Will Salthouse.
If you believe reports his reasoning is because..

1) He didnt get him the move he wanted away from Palace

I do agree there must be some sort of conflict of interest there now..

Does he have to have an agent? Feels like someone owns you.

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RyWa Beckenham 12 Sep 19 10.32am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'The Wilfried Zaha Thread' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by steeleye20 Does he have to have an agent? Feels like someone owns you. I guess the idea of an agent is they do all your negotiating for you. In Wilfs case, he wanted his agent to be contacting all the big clubs in Europe offering them his services and saying he wants to leave Palace.. Wilfs now sacked him because he didnt get him a move. You can operate "agentless" but you potentially wouldn't earn as much money as some of the players with top agents. What baffles me is how desperate Wilf seems to be to get out the club. Everton will not compete in the champions league during the remaining span of Wilfs peak (The next 3 seasons), yet hes still so eager to go there, is Palace so bad? everyone else seems pretty happy. Id have no issue with teams like City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Dortmund, PSG etc, but not bloody Everton. Theres new reports in the press today stating how unhappy and miserable he is. We will forever have this until the day he goes. Ive almost started looking forward to that day coming.. Edited by RyWa (12 Sep 2019 10.32am) Edited by RyWa (12 Sep 2019 10.33am)
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Originally posted by steeleye20

Does he have to have an agent? Feels like someone owns you.

I guess the idea of an agent is they do all your negotiating for you.
In Wilfs case, he wanted his agent to be contacting all the big clubs in Europe offering them his services and saying he wants to leave Palace.. Wilfs now sacked him because he didnt get him a move.
You can operate "agentless" but you potentially wouldn't earn as much money as some of the players with top agents.
What baffles me is how desperate Wilf seems to be to get out the club.
Everton will not compete in the champions league during the remaining span of Wilfs peak (The next 3 seasons), yet hes still so eager to go there, is Palace so bad? everyone else seems pretty happy.

Id have no issue with teams like City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Dortmund, PSG etc, but not bloody Everton.

Theres new reports in the press today stating how unhappy and miserable he is. We will forever have this until the day he goes. Ive almost started looking forward to that day coming..

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Canterbury Palace Whitstable 12 Sep 19 10.58am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'The Wilfried Zaha Thread' by Midlands Eagle Oh dear. This rumbles on. What a sad end to his time at the club. I think the best possible outcome of this is that we sign an agreement to flog him to Chelsea next summer when the transfer window reopens, hopefully that would motivate princess for the remainder of the season and give us time to find a replacement. We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...
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Oh dear. This rumbles on. What a sad end to his time at the club.

I think the best possible outcome of this is that we sign an agreement to flog him to Chelsea next summer when the transfer window reopens, hopefully that would motivate princess for the remainder of the season and give us time to find a replacement.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 12 Sep 19 11.58am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'The Wilfried Zaha Thread' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Canterbury Palace Oh dear. This rumbles on. What a sad end to his time at the club. I think the best possible outcome of this is that we sign an agreement to flog him to Chelsea next summer when the transfer window reopens, hopefully that would motivate princess for the remainder of the season and give us time to find a replacement. Agree. Agree. Possibly. Not a hope in hells chance. This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

Oh dear. This rumbles on. What a sad end to his time at the club.

Agree. Agree. Possibly. Not a hope in hells chance.

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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Crystal_Clear Belfast 12 Sep 19 12.00pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'The Wilfried Zaha Thread' by Midlands Eagle So now he has sacked his agent, the more this goes on the more he is looking like a spoilt child. What is the agent supposed to do, if other clubs wont pay the money that Palace are asking for ? Palace are not going to let him go for nothing just because he wants to play at a bigger club. Again, he should not have signed a long term contract without thinking about the negative repercussions. That is what the agent should have warned him about. Quite frankly his performances so far been average at best, but more like disinterested to me. If he does eventually get his move, I suspect it will all go pear shaped again. Palace appear to be one side that can accommodate his style. But quite frankly his antics are leaving a bad taste.
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So now he has sacked his agent, the more this goes on the more he is looking like a spoilt child.

What is the agent supposed to do, if other clubs wont pay the money that Palace are asking for ? Palace are not going to let him go for nothing just because he wants to play at a bigger club.

Again, he should not have signed a long term contract without thinking about the negative repercussions. That is what the agent should have warned him about.

Quite frankly his performances so far been average at best, but more like disinterested to me.

If he does eventually get his move, I suspect it will all go pear shaped again. Palace appear to be one side that can accommodate his style.

But quite frankly his antics are leaving a bad taste.

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