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Ukraine Situation - Should We Be Worried?
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 steeleye20  Croydon 31 Aug 23 12.56pm |
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New British defence minister has no defence experience. Sunak hands election to Starmer as MPs ask: does ‘Spreadsheet Shapps’ know the difference between a fighter jet and a tank? Tory MPs not happy, Ben Wallace was regarded as a competent safe minister.
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 georgenorman 31 Aug 23 1.18pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
New British defence minister has no defence experience. Sunak hands election to Starmer as MPs ask: does ‘Spreadsheet Shapps’ know the difference between a fighter jet and a tank? Tory MPs not happy, Ben Wallace was regarded as a competent safe minister.
Yes, you were constantly posting that he was a competent, safe minister.
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| Eaglehamster Storrington 31 Aug 23 2.03pm |
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Off topic but if people were assigned roles according to their strengths rather that a reward for loyalty, we might get a better government.
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| silvertop Portishead 31 Aug 23 2.14pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglehamster
Off topic but if people were assigned roles according to their strengths rather that a reward for loyalty, we might get a better government. Liz Truss in FO being a good example.
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| Stirlingsays 31 Aug 23 3.33pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
The US has a long track record of passionately supporting the right to free speech at home while paradoxically supporting regimes elsewhere who very much don't. On Ukraine I am split. On one level I back their resistance to Russia for more reasons than I have space to give here. On another, I would very much like Ukraine to have a better government. The historic parallel that comes to mind is WWII Poland. An awful military junta before the panzers rolled in. An inconvenient fact conveniently forgotten given it was the poor Poles who were crushed between two deadly superpowers. I guess my point is that you can say what you like about the Ukraine government, but thoughts should really be with the Ukraine people. I'd agree with a lot of that......though I probably differ with you on where the bulk of the blame for where we are lies. As for WW2, I love Dad's Army and in a lot of ways revere the bulk of that generation, however there are a lot of lies, half truths and omissions around WW2 that I certainly wasn't told growing up......Indeed, you get taught the 'Dad's Army' patriotic perspective (some of which I'm proud of) but it hides a lot of what actually happened. And when I looked at it with fresh eyes as an older more experienced adult I was shocked at the lesser told and omitted truths. This war carries a lot of the same simplistic one eyed narrative fed to us and in lots of ways I'm deeply cynical and tired of it. That said, you are of course correct. The real people that deserve our sympathy are the innocents who suffer war. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Aug 2023 3.34pm)
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| eaglesdare 08 Sep 23 8.48pm |
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I see Stephen Fry is visiting that crook Zelensky in Ukraine. Is there actually a war going on?
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| Mapletree Croydon 08 Sep 23 9.34pm |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
I see Stephen Fry is visiting that crook Zelensky in Ukraine. Is there actually a war going on? Would you care to explain what makes Zelensky a ‘crook’?
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| eaglesdare 08 Sep 23 10.02pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Would you care to explain what makes Zelensky a ‘crook’? A crook is a person who is dishonest or a criminal.
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| Mapletree Croydon 08 Sep 23 11.44pm |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
A crook is a person who is dishonest or a criminal. Answer the question will you
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| Stirlingsays 09 Sep 23 4.46am |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
I see Stephen Fry is visiting that crook Zelensky in Ukraine. Is there actually a war going on? [Tweet Link]
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| steeleye20 Croydon 09 Sep 23 4.58pm |
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'Nothing to be proud of': Ukraine hits out at G20 declaration. Failure to condemn Russia for the war. The G20 are, in any case, a waste of space imo, didn't agree on hardly anything else either.
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eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 09 Sep 23 5.19pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
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That made me laugh & i even remember him in Blackadder. Col Melchet wasn't it?
This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise. |
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