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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Jun 23 12.22pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Interesting and can't help but agree.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 16 Jun 23 12.25pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Interesting and can't help but agree.

Tips hat.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 16 Jun 23 12.43pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Interesting and can't help but agree.

What's interesting is that some seem so completely blinkered that they cannot see the obvious difference and seek to conflate two totally different sets of circumstances.

This is like Rees-Mogg and Dorries continuing to stand up for Johnson. It belies belief.

Trump really could shoot someone in broad daylight on 5th Avenue and some would point at Biden and say what about that time he stood on an ant?

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 16 Jun 23 12.55pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What's interesting is that some seem so completely blinkered that they cannot see the obvious difference and seek to conflate two totally different sets of circumstances.

This is like Rees-Mogg and Dorries continuing to stand up for Johnson. It belies belief.

Trump really could shoot someone in broad daylight on 5th Avenue and some would point at Biden and say what about that time he stood on an ant?

Some ants are safer than others.

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Jun 23 1.55pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What's interesting is that some seem so completely blinkered that they cannot see the obvious difference and seek to conflate two totally different sets of circumstances.

This is like Rees-Mogg and Dorries continuing to stand up for Johnson. It belies belief.

Trump really could shoot someone in broad daylight on 5th Avenue and some would point at Biden and say what about that time he stood on an ant?

I'm not Trump fanatic whatsoever. Also to inform you on this: Tucker Carlson doesn't like Trump as far as I'm aware. He's trying to call out some pretty nefarious behaviour - which he wasn't able to do as a news anchor, but he can as an independent. As far as I'm aware, Carlson dislikes Trump quite a lot so can be perhaps considered one of the less bias sources. Also, since he now has no bosses, he can call things as he sees it.
However, I do dislike Biden, a very poor President from a bad bunch of potential candidates. So I am bias on this - but not pro Trump. Still, think Trump is constantly treated differently to other candidates and I can't help but think that Carlson gives some food for thought about the reasons here.
As for war, I actually support involvement in Ukraine - my own reasoning, don't let Russia and Putin dictate anything. But the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan - plenty of others. I supported them at the time but as history goes on, I frankly feel duped. No good has come of them - in fact the complete opposite. I have total support for the western armed forces and am an ex serviceman myself. Their leadership is poor and corrupt, however, and we're being constantly misled and, frankly, taken for fools. I hope you have a think about this. This isn't Trump people are defending - it's the whole democratic process. The criminal charges stink of political chicanery.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 16 Jun 23 3.00pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Some ants are safer than others.

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This sounds like a real "fishing" exercise but as I have said many times if anyone has broken the law, let due process deal with it. No one is above the law.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 16 Jun 23 3.19pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I'm not Trump fanatic whatsoever. Also to inform you on this: Tucker Carlson doesn't like Trump as far as I'm aware. He's trying to call out some pretty nefarious behaviour - which he wasn't able to do as a news anchor, but he can as an independent. As far as I'm aware, Carlson dislikes Trump quite a lot so can be perhaps considered one of the less bias sources. Also, since he now has no bosses, he can call things as he sees it.
However, I do dislike Biden, a very poor President from a bad bunch of potential candidates. So I am bias on this - but not pro Trump. Still, think Trump is constantly treated differently to other candidates and I can't help but think that Carlson gives some food for thought about the reasons here.
As for war, I actually support involvement in Ukraine - my own reasoning, don't let Russia and Putin dictate anything. But the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan - plenty of others. I supported them at the time but as history goes on, I frankly feel duped. No good has come of them - in fact the complete opposite. I have total support for the western armed forces and am an ex serviceman myself. Their leadership is poor and corrupt, however, and we're being constantly misled and, frankly, taken for fools. I hope you have a think about this. This isn't Trump people are defending - it's the whole democratic process. The criminal charges stink of political chicanery.

I do think about it. I wouldn't trust Carlson much more than I trust Trump, who I wouldn't trust to clean my toilet. He has his own agenda and ambitions. He might now have decided to distance himself from Trump but he can still use him to retain the affection of the Trump base.

I simply reject any political influence over the decisions. I realise there is less of a clear line between politics and the judicial system in the USA than there is here. You have only to look at the Supreme Court and the way it's appointed to know that. However, knowing that the current administration has made a deliberate point of standing back and keeping quiet. They have allowed the D o J to do their job. Added to that is the fact that prosecuting Trump may well not be in their best interests.

So the only stink is that coming from Trump, and parroted by the right, about this being another "witch hunt", which it so obviously isn't. All that evidence didn't invent itself.

I don't doubt previous Presidents might have retained a few things, either by mistake or as mementos. They though would have cooperated in full should it be discovered. Not like Trump, who has kept a mountain, lied about it and refused to cooperate. It feels almost deliberate to set himself up as a martyr, and divert attention from his behaviour before and after the last election whilst keeping himself in the spotlight. You wouldn't put that past him, would you?

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (16 Jun 2023 3.20pm)

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 16 Jun 23 7.17pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I do think about it. I wouldn't trust Carlson much more than I trust Trump, who I wouldn't trust to clean my toilet. He has his own agenda and ambitions. He might now have decided to distance himself from Trump but he can still use him to retain the affection of the Trump base.

I simply reject any political influence over the decisions. I realise there is less of a clear line between politics and the judicial system in the USA than there is here. You have only to look at the Supreme Court and the way it's appointed to know that. However, knowing that the current administration has made a deliberate point of standing back and keeping quiet. They have allowed the D o J to do their job. Added to that is the fact that prosecuting Trump may well not be in their best interests.

So the only stink is that coming from Trump, and parroted by the right, about this being another "witch hunt", which it so obviously isn't. All that evidence didn't invent itself.

I don't doubt previous Presidents might have retained a few things, either by mistake or as mementos. They though would have cooperated in full should it be discovered. Not like Trump, who has kept a mountain, lied about it and refused to cooperate. It feels almost deliberate to set himself up as a martyr, and divert attention from his behaviour before and after the last election whilst keeping himself in the spotlight. You wouldn't put that past him, would you?

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (16 Jun 2023 3.20pm)

Tbh you do not trust anyone with a different opinion to you.
The fact that just maybe you could be wrong doesn’t enter your ether of thought.
Consider for one moment that Tucker is producing facts. Where you’s at then?

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 16 Jun 23 8.25pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Tbh you do not trust anyone with a different opinion to you.
The fact that just maybe you could be wrong doesn’t enter your ether of thought.
Consider for one moment that Tucker is producing facts. Where you’s at then?

Untrue. I trust my wife and she has different opinions to me on many things. I can respect others who hold different opinions just so long as they respect mine. For instance I respect yours a great deal more than some here because you are not anti everything and are prepared to be realistic, for instance on the vaccines.

Tucker doesn’t produce facts, on this issue at least. He is spreading disinformation and conspiracy theory even if they are widely believed in the USA.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (16 Jun 2023 8.29pm)

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Untrue. I trust my wife and she has different opinions to me on many things. I can respect others who hold different opinions just so long as they respect mine. For instance I respect yours a great deal more than some here because you are not anti everything and are prepared to be realistic, for instance on the vaccines.

Tucker doesn’t produce facts, on this issue at least. He is spreading disinformation and conspiracy theory even if they are widely believed in the USA.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (16 Jun 2023 8.29pm)

You think that everything that contradicts your opinion is a conspiracy theory.

In time honoured tradition, you talk about facts as if there was ever any chance that they could be produced.

In case you weren't aware, conspirators generally hide them on purpose.

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Jun 23 1.07pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I do think about it. I wouldn't trust Carlson much more than I trust Trump, who I wouldn't trust to clean my toilet. He has his own agenda and ambitions. He might now have decided to distance himself from Trump but he can still use him to retain the affection of the Trump base.

I simply reject any political influence over the decisions. I realise there is less of a clear line between politics and the judicial system in the USA than there is here. You have only to look at the Supreme Court and the way it's appointed to know that. However, knowing that the current administration has made a deliberate point of standing back and keeping quiet. They have allowed the D o J to do their job. Added to that is the fact that prosecuting Trump may well not be in their best interests.

So the only stink is that coming from Trump, and parroted by the right, about this being another "witch hunt", which it so obviously isn't. All that evidence didn't invent itself.

I don't doubt previous Presidents might have retained a few things, either by mistake or as mementos. They though would have cooperated in full should it be discovered. Not like Trump, who has kept a mountain, lied about it and refused to cooperate. It feels almost deliberate to set himself up as a martyr, and divert attention from his behaviour before and after the last election whilst keeping himself in the spotlight. You wouldn't put that past him, would you?

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (16 Jun 2023 3.20pm)

It's not Trump's subversion of the press I'm particularly worried about. He quite clearly failed to get them onside and then went on the attack against them. It's the mainstream narrative being, shall we say, economical with the truth that's becoming more and more concerning. Have an opinion and, like you have here, get labelled a right wing conspiracy theorist.
I wouldn't go as far as to say Carlson quoted facts - it's an opinion piece. However, it's food for thought unless you look back and agree with Vietnam, The Congo Crisis, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, the fake Shah - I could go on - but will have to not say too much. How come all were right at the time - then total bollox afterwards? Surely there's something to that? Plus a few million lives and a few million displaced. Oh well, just go along with it, True Blue, wave the flag, our boys etc.
As I say I support involvement in Ukraine, however, if it leads to WW3 it will not be worth it. If it drags on forever is the likely sign the arms companies are having fun. Making hay while the sun shines - which is literally almost forever in a US context.

 


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Behind Enemy Lines Flag Sussex 17 Jun 23 1.30pm Send a Private Message to Behind Enemy Lines Add Behind Enemy Lines as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Best option? Never said that.

Better than Trump? As I have said many times almost anyone else with a modicum of compassion and wisdom would be better than Trump. Mickey Mouse would be better.


God Save The Queen...apparently Biden signed off with these words at a meeting in Connecticut. Trump may not be perfect but Biden is showing that the Free World is being led by somebody who should be in a home. So who is really pulling the strings if Biden is incapable?

 


hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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