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Stirlingsays 16 Sep 21 12.18pm
Can't we do all this stuff in a thread better suited to it? 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

16 Sep 21 12.18pm

Can't we do all this stuff in a thread better suited to it?

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Spiderman Horsham 16 Sep 21 12.34pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 As an EU partner France was more than co-operative, in fact it had to pay for the operation, which it sees as a UK border and ex-colonial UK issue using their own country as a conduit. And even now they are working to make the crossings safer. France has an enviable record on asylum taking 4 times as many as the UK and has been widely praised for its prompt humanitarian airlift from Afghanistan. The UK never thought any of its brexit issues through and its daily round of failures are simply its own fault. Anyone could see that brexit would increase immigration as is proving to be the case. Working to make the crossings safer? They should be working to stop them. I have seen many examples of the non-cooperation but you seem to know better,
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Horsham 16 Sep 21 12.34pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

As an EU partner France was more than co-operative, in fact it had to pay for the operation, which it sees as a UK border and ex-colonial UK issue using their own country as a conduit.

And even now they are working to make the crossings safer.

France has an enviable record on asylum taking 4 times as many as the UK and has been widely praised for its prompt humanitarian airlift from Afghanistan.

The UK never thought any of its brexit issues through and its daily round of failures are simply its own fault.

Anyone could see that brexit would increase immigration as is proving to be the case.

Working to make the crossings safer? They should be working to stop them.
I have seen many examples of the non-cooperation but you seem to know better,

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Hrolf The Ganger 16 Sep 21 12.45pm
Originally posted by kuge But Brexit is very influential on the refugee problem. We have lost our voice in the EU and we are therefore unable to change future policies there. In relation to international organised crime, which is what fuels most of the people trafficking across the channel, our exit from Europol which was not even necessary post-Brexit has robbed us of valuable intelligence. It’s quite possible that the criminals presently have better cross border cooperation and coordination than the UK has. There is no need to talk down Brexit it does all its own work in that direction. We are all waiting for a single benefit to be identified, nothing is forthcoming yet. You don't really expect civility after your previous posts. Take your Brexit negativity and shove it where the sun don't shine. It's easy to come on here to mock, criticize and insult. Any Joe can do that. It requires no substance. You think that membership of the EU would benefit us in the long run as regards refugees and international crime? You are deluded. Remember. Most of the international crime that affects Britain occurs because of the immigration policy that fools like you support. If we are not protecting our own borders properly, that is a matter for the British government to deal with. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (16 Sep 2021 12.46pm)
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Originally posted by kuge

But Brexit is very influential on the refugee problem. We have lost our voice in the EU and we are therefore unable to change future policies there.

In relation to international organised crime, which is what fuels most of the people trafficking across the channel, our exit from Europol which was not even necessary post-Brexit has robbed us of valuable intelligence. It’s quite possible that the criminals presently have better cross border cooperation and coordination than the UK has.

There is no need to talk down Brexit it does all its own work in that direction. We are all waiting for a single benefit to be identified, nothing is forthcoming yet.

You don't really expect civility after your previous posts. Take your Brexit negativity and shove it where the sun don't shine.
It's easy to come on here to mock, criticize and insult. Any Joe can do that. It requires no substance.

You think that membership of the EU would benefit us in the long run as regards refugees and international crime? You are deluded.

Remember. Most of the international crime that affects Britain occurs because of the immigration policy that fools like you support.
If we are not protecting our own borders properly, that is a matter for the British government to deal with.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (16 Sep 2021 12.46pm)

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PalazioVecchio south pole 16 Sep 21 12.58pm
Originally posted by HKOwen If Ireland is ever reunified it will be under the terms of the Good Friday Agreement, 50%+1, nothing to do with Brexit. There is no other scenario currently agreed. If Scotland goes then the rest of the UK will benefit from a flight of capital and people from Scotland. It's academic most likely as even the most Braveheart Scot is surely not so stupid as to vote for a country that likely will not be viable economically. Putting all else aside the currency problems are too big, especially around pensions. More money for Wales and NI. Edited by HKOwen (16 Sep 2021 10.53am) nobody want a united Ireland. Except for a few nutter Shinners...LGBT, BLM, Feminist action, Abortion, Palestine & a United Ireland. even the hardcore 'RA heads of Kerry have no interest in getting Arlene Foster into the Dáil. Ulster ? you broke it, you can keep it mate. ''nice to handle, nice to hold, but when it breaks, call it sold'' Edited by PalazioVecchio (16 Sep 2021 1.00pm) Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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Originally posted by HKOwen

If Ireland is ever reunified it will be under the terms of the Good Friday Agreement, 50%+1, nothing to do with Brexit. There is no other scenario currently agreed.

If Scotland goes then the rest of the UK will benefit from a flight of capital and people from Scotland.

It's academic most likely as even the most Braveheart Scot is surely not so stupid as to vote for a country that likely will not be viable economically.

Putting all else aside the currency problems are too big, especially around pensions.

More money for Wales and NI.

Edited by HKOwen (16 Sep 2021 10.53am)

nobody want a united Ireland. Except for a few nutter Shinners...LGBT, BLM, Feminist action, Abortion, Palestine & a United Ireland.

even the hardcore 'RA heads of Kerry have no interest in getting Arlene Foster into the Dáil.

Ulster ? you broke it, you can keep it mate.

''nice to handle, nice to hold, but when it breaks, call it sold''

Edited by PalazioVecchio (16 Sep 2021 1.00pm)

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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jeeagles 16 Sep 21 1.08pm
Originally posted by cryrst No just the thinking. Just what thinking is that? A land when if you don't belong to a set ethnicity or religion you get persecuted? A land where women and homosexuals are persecuted? A land where stepping outside of a very strict set of behaviors persecuted. The hateful, racists, core idiology of the far right and the taliban are very closely aligned.
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16 Sep 21 1.08pm

Originally posted by cryrst

No just the thinking.

Just what thinking is that?

A land when if you don't belong to a set ethnicity or religion you get persecuted?
A land where women and homosexuals are persecuted?
A land where stepping outside of a very strict set of behaviors persecuted.

The hateful, racists, core idiology of the far right and the taliban are very closely aligned.

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jeeagles 16 Sep 21 1.11pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger You don't really expect civility after your previous posts. Take your Brexit negativity and shove it where the sun don't shine. It's easy to come on here to mock, criticize and insult. Any Joe can do that. It requires no substance. You think that membership of the EU would benefit us in the long run as regards refugees and international crime? You are deluded. Remember. Most of the international crime that affects Britain occurs because of the immigration policy that fools like you support. If we are not protecting our own borders properly, that is a matter for the British government to deal with. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (16 Sep 2021 12.46pm) Aww Hrolf.... trying to cancel people who show you up again. Why not, try and be successful, then you won't have to worry about immigrants stealing crappy jobs and council flats.
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jeeagles

16 Sep 21 1.11pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You think that membership of the EU would benefit us in the long run as regards refugees and international crime? You are deluded.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (16 Sep 2021 12.46pm)

Aww Hrolf.... trying to cancel people who show you up again.

Why not, try and be successful, then you won't have to worry about immigrants stealing crappy jobs and council flats.

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jeeagles 16 Sep 21 1.13pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio nobody want a united Ireland. Except for a few nutter Shinners...LGBT, BLM, Feminist action, Abortion, Palestine & a United Ireland. even the hardcore 'RA heads of Kerry have no interest in getting Arlene Foster into the Dáil. Ulster ? you broke it, you can keep it mate. ''nice to handle, nice to hold, but when it breaks, call it sold'' Edited by PalazioVecchio (16 Sep 2021 1.00pm) I can tell your getting angry simply by looking at the difficulties you are having using your keyboard.
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jeeagles

16 Sep 21 1.13pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

nobody want a united Ireland. Except for a few nutter Shinners...LGBT, BLM, Feminist action, Abortion, Palestine & a United Ireland.

even the hardcore 'RA heads of Kerry have no interest in getting Arlene Foster into the Dáil.

Ulster ? you broke it, you can keep it mate.

''nice to handle, nice to hold, but when it breaks, call it sold''

Edited by PalazioVecchio (16 Sep 2021 1.00pm)

I can tell your getting angry simply by looking at the difficulties you are having using your keyboard.

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 16 Sep 21 1.16pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Ironic. Irony AND sarcasm actually. 2 for 1 today Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 16 Sep 21 1.16pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Ironic.

Irony AND sarcasm actually. 2 for 1 today

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 16 Sep 21 1.17pm
Originally posted by jeeagles I can tell your getting angry simply by looking at the difficulties you are having using your keyboard. haha. Excellent lunchtime entertainment Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 16 Sep 21 1.17pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

I can tell your getting angry simply by looking at the difficulties you are having using your keyboard.

haha. Excellent lunchtime entertainment

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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DanH SW2 16 Sep 21 1.28pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow So a self-declared feminist supports the thinking of the Taliban? That's some logic There’s no logic or thinking actually applied.
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SW2 16 Sep 21 1.28pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

So a self-declared feminist supports the thinking of the Taliban? That's some logic

There’s no logic or thinking actually applied.

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Stirlingsays 16 Sep 21 1.34pm
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Irony AND sarcasm actually. 2 for 1 today You're kind of hard to dislike. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Sep 2021 1.34pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

16 Sep 21 1.34pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Irony AND sarcasm actually. 2 for 1 today

You're kind of hard to dislike.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Sep 2021 1.34pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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cryrst The garden of England 16 Sep 21 1.42pm
Originally posted by jeeagles Just what thinking is that? A land when if you don't belong to a set ethnicity or religion you get persecuted? A land where women and homosexuals are persecuted? A land where stepping outside of a very strict set of behaviors persecuted. The hateful, racists, core idiology of the far right and the taliban are very closely aligned. Like some corners of the UK if you scratch deep enough. Don't be naive enough to think that enclaves here don't aspire to or actually are like this. As for the far right what exactly is their thinking bearing in mind the bnp and edl had black and Asian members if that is who you mean. Its about the country not the colour. I would also add a section on blm into that alignment, would you?
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cryrst

The garden of England 16 Sep 21 1.42pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

Just what thinking is that?

The hateful, racists, core idiology of the far right and the taliban are very closely aligned.

Like some corners of the UK if you scratch deep enough. Don't be naive enough to think that enclaves here don't aspire to or actually are like this.
As for the far right what exactly is their thinking bearing in mind the bnp and edl had black and Asian members if that is who you mean. Its about the country not the colour. I would also add a section on blm into that alignment, would you?

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