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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Jan 20 12.15pm
Originally posted by doombear At this juncture I don't have any information apropos Wickham's assist record. In terms of him playing alongside another striker, I really don't know if he has played many,if any, games in this system.At Sunderland in the 13/14 season when he scored 15 goals, the strikers at the club at that time included Fletcher,Altidore,Borini and Watmore. At Sunderland he did play games out on the left but don't know how often he was deployed in this role.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Jan 20 12.15pm

Originally posted by doombear

At this juncture I don't have any information apropos Wickham's assist record.

In terms of him playing alongside another striker, I really don't know if he has played many,if any, games in this system.At Sunderland in the 13/14 season when he scored 15 goals, the strikers at the club at that time included Fletcher,Altidore,Borini and Watmore. At Sunderland he did play games out on the left but don't know how often he was deployed in this role.

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Putitout Oxford 04 Jan 20 12.25pm
Originally posted by Willo I have no information as to how many starts he made amongst the apps I have listed. And it’s the minutes, not even appearances, that would tell the tale a whole lot better, whilst still not telling how good a footballer Wickham ,actually is. Goals so often are just a matter of getting on the end of things anyway. Would Sterling have developed the game he now has if it were not for the stream of fabulous passes that come his way, ? He has learned the runs and the finish ,but they only pay because of the fantastic assists he can rely on. The point being that at this level you are in many respects only as good as the feed you can expect. Quiet honestly ,Wickham, gets a pat on the back for the goal at Norwich, but that goal belonged to all three lads, Pierrick, Wilf, and of course the feller on the end of it. If he keeps fit , and so does the rest of the squad, it could work out well for him and the club.
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Putitout

Oxford 04 Jan 20 12.25pm

Originally posted by Willo

I have no information as to how many starts he made amongst the apps I have listed.

And it’s the minutes, not even appearances, that would tell the tale a whole lot better, whilst still not telling how good a footballer Wickham ,actually is.
Goals so often are just a matter of getting on the end of things anyway. Would Sterling have developed the game he now has if it were not for the stream of fabulous passes that come his way, ? He has learned the runs and the finish ,but they only pay because of the fantastic assists he can rely on. The point being that at this level you are in many respects only as good as the feed you can expect.
Quiet honestly ,Wickham, gets a pat on the back for the goal at Norwich, but that goal belonged to all three lads, Pierrick, Wilf, and of course the feller on the end of it. If he keeps fit , and so does the rest of the squad, it could work out well for him and the club.

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mattteo 04 Jan 20 12.33pm
Originally posted by Willo At this juncture I don't have any information apropos Wickham's assist record. In terms of him playing alongside another striker, I really don't know if he has played many,if any, games in this system.At Sunderland in the 13/14 season when he scored 15 goals, the strikers at the club at that time included Fletcher,Altidore,Borini and Watmore. At Sunderland he did play games out on the left but don't know how often he was deployed in this role. The man scored 15 goals in that season, but only 5 were against Premier League opponents. The rest 10 were Championship goals or in Cup games, against Charlton, Blackpool, Hudderfield, Reading. Following seasons he scored 5 in 36 in the top level, then 5 in 21, then he became injured for 600 days.. By now, his level is probably League One-Championship. Yes, once in a while he is going to contribute, especially with headers setting up others and being a target man, cause he's very tall and strong. But nothing much better than Benteke or other injury prone Andy Carrol. Calling Wickham a 15-20 goal a season striker if he's not injured is just.....wrong. He has 15 goals in the PL in 3 seasons before his injury (5 a season) and 3 goals since the 16/17 season, so 18 goals in total, in more than 100 matches. The man cannot be a 15-20 goals A SEASON scorer. Edited by mattteo (04 Jan 2020 12.36pm)
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mattteo

04 Jan 20 12.33pm

Originally posted by Willo

At this juncture I don't have any information apropos Wickham's assist record.

The man scored 15 goals in that season, but only 5 were against Premier League opponents. The rest 10 were Championship goals or in Cup games, against Charlton, Blackpool, Hudderfield, Reading.

Following seasons he scored 5 in 36 in the top level, then 5 in 21, then he became injured for 600 days..

By now, his level is probably League One-Championship. Yes, once in a while he is going to contribute, especially with headers setting up others and being a target man, cause he's very tall and strong. But nothing much better than Benteke or other injury prone Andy Carrol.

Calling Wickham a 15-20 goal a season striker if he's not injured is just.....wrong.

He has 15 goals in the PL in 3 seasons before his injury (5 a season) and 3 goals since the 16/17 season, so 18 goals in total, in more than 100 matches.

The man cannot be a 15-20 goals A SEASON scorer.

Edited by mattteo (04 Jan 2020 12.36pm)

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Tickled pink Cornwall 04 Jan 20 1.03pm
Originally posted by Willo Living up to one of my nicknames 'Statto' outside of HOL (!), I have conducted some research and discovered the following : 2019/20 1 goal from 5 apps 2018/19 1 goal from 8 apps 2017/18 Possibly missed whole season as no stats available 2016/17 3 goals from 10 apps 2015/16 6 goals from 24 apps 2014/15 6 goals from 40 apps 2013/14 15 goals from 34 apps 2012/13 2 goals from 23 apps 2011/12 1 goal from 19 apps 2010/11 9 goals from 41 apps 2009/10 6 goals from 29 apps 2008/09 0 goals from 2 apps I have no information as to how many starts he made amongst the apps I have listed. Edited by Willo (04 Jan 2020 9.26am) Thank you Willo. I found this ... [Link]
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Tickled pink

Cornwall 04 Jan 20 1.03pm

Originally posted by Willo

Living up to one of my nicknames 'Statto' outside of HOL (!), I have conducted some research and discovered the following :

2019/20 1 goal from 5 apps
2018/19 1 goal from 8 apps
2017/18 Possibly missed whole season as no stats available
2016/17 3 goals from 10 apps
2015/16 6 goals from 24 apps
2014/15 6 goals from 40 apps
2013/14 15 goals from 34 apps
2012/13 2 goals from 23 apps
2011/12 1 goal from 19 apps
2010/11 9 goals from 41 apps
2009/10 6 goals from 29 apps
2008/09 0 goals from 2 apps

I have no information as to how many starts he made amongst the apps I have listed.

Edited by Willo (04 Jan 2020 9.26am)

Thank you Willo.

I found this ...

[Link]

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Jan 20 1.10pm
Originally posted by Tickled pink Thank you Willo. I found this ... [Link] Excellent.Very useful.Had not heard of this website. Thank you very much. Edited by Willo (04 Jan 2020 1.13pm)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Jan 20 1.10pm

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Thank you Willo.

I found this ...

[Link]

Excellent.Very useful.Had not heard of this website.
Thank you very much.

Edited by Willo (04 Jan 2020 1.13pm)

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NickinOX Sailing country. 04 Jan 20 1.16pm
Originally posted by Tickled pink Thank you Willo. I found this ... [Link] That is interesting as he averages 1 goal every three whole matches despite his injury problems. I’d never have guessed that. If you come to a fork in the road, take it.
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NickinOX

Sailing country. 04 Jan 20 1.16pm

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Thank you Willo.

I found this ...

[Link]

That is interesting as he averages 1 goal every three whole matches despite his injury problems. I’d never have guessed that.

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

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Putitout Oxford 04 Jan 20 1.39pm
Originally posted by Tickled pink Thank you Willo. I found this ... [Link] These give a description of what could be a decent player , that has only ever been playing for or helping out clubs doing less than well.. About one goal in three for the minutes played in starts. But very prone to injury. 19 league starts with Palace, in all the time we have had him. It all comes back to can he stay fit. But he deserves the chance to help this club going forward.
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Putitout

Oxford 04 Jan 20 1.39pm

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Thank you Willo.

I found this ...

[Link]

These give a description of what could be a decent player , that has only ever been playing for or helping out clubs doing less than well..
About one goal in three for the minutes played in starts. But very prone to injury. 19 league starts with Palace, in all the time we have had him. It all comes back to can he stay fit. But he deserves the chance to help this club going forward.

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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 04 Jan 20 1.40pm
Originally posted by mattteo The man scored 15 goals in that season, but only 5 were against Premier League opponents. The rest 10 were Championship goals or in Cup games, against Charlton, Blackpool, Hudderfield, Reading. Following seasons he scored 5 in 36 in the top level, then 5 in 21, then he became injured for 600 days.. By now, his level is probably League One-Championship. Yes, once in a while he is going to contribute, especially with headers setting up others and being a target man, cause he's very tall and strong. But nothing much better than Benteke or other injury prone Andy Carrol. Calling Wickham a 15-20 goal a season striker if he's not injured is just.....wrong. He has 15 goals in the PL in 3 seasons before his injury (5 a season) and 3 goals since the 16/17 season, so 18 goals in total, in more than 100 matches. The man cannot be a 15-20 goals A SEASON scorer. Edited by mattteo (04 Jan 2020 12.36pm) Well according to some on here apparently he can! "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Tom-the-eagle

Croydon 04 Jan 20 1.40pm

Originally posted by mattteo

The man scored 15 goals in that season, but only 5 were against Premier League opponents. The rest 10 were Championship goals or in Cup games, against Charlton, Blackpool, Hudderfield, Reading.

Following seasons he scored 5 in 36 in the top level, then 5 in 21, then he became injured for 600 days..

Calling Wickham a 15-20 goal a season striker if he's not injured is just.....wrong.

He has 15 goals in the PL in 3 seasons before his injury (5 a season) and 3 goals since the 16/17 season, so 18 goals in total, in more than 100 matches.

The man cannot be a 15-20 goals A SEASON scorer.

Edited by mattteo (04 Jan 2020 12.36pm)

Well according to some on here apparently he can!

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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EddieMac 04 Jan 20 1.51pm
Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle Well according to some on here apparently he can! Anyone who thinks Mr Wickham is going to score 15 goals in a Premier league season needs their head tested.
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EddieMac

04 Jan 20 1.51pm

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Well according to some on here apparently he can!

Anyone who thinks Mr Wickham is going to score 15 goals in a Premier league season needs their head tested.

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Tickled pink Cornwall 04 Jan 20 1.58pm
Originally posted by EddieMac Anyone who thinks Mr Wickham is going to score 15 goals in a Premier league season needs their head tested. Open to conjecture, if he can keep free from injury then there is no reason to suggest he cannot score 15 goals in one season. I don't know you don't know, I just purely hope.
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Tickled pink

Cornwall 04 Jan 20 1.58pm

Originally posted by EddieMac

Anyone who thinks Mr Wickham is going to score 15 goals in a Premier league season needs their head tested.

Open to conjecture, if he can keep free from injury then there is no reason to suggest he cannot score 15 goals in one season.
I don't know you don't know, I just purely hope.

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Tickled pink Cornwall 04 Jan 20 2.04pm
The amount of times Zaha plays a lovely ball across oppositions boxes must hold out some hope for a player like Wickham and us as fans watching.
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Tickled pink

Cornwall 04 Jan 20 2.04pm

The amount of times Zaha plays a lovely ball across oppositions boxes must hold out some hope for a player like Wickham and us as fans watching.

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mattteo 04 Jan 20 2.29pm
Originally posted by NickinOX That is interesting as he averages 1 goal every three whole matches despite his injury problems. I’d never have guessed that. This is a very interesting reply. Are you saying he averages a goal every 3 full matches as in 1 goal every 270 minutes?? If you show me 3 Premier League strikers poorer than that (you can search them everywhere, but Benteke aside ), I'll gladly bow my head in shame. 270 minutes is a lousy period to have 1 goal on average.
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mattteo

04 Jan 20 2.29pm

Originally posted by NickinOX

That is interesting as he averages 1 goal every three whole matches despite his injury problems. I’d never have guessed that.

This is a very interesting reply. Are you saying he averages a goal every 3 full matches as in 1 goal every 270 minutes??

If you show me 3 Premier League strikers poorer than that (you can search them everywhere, but Benteke aside ), I'll gladly bow my head in shame.

270 minutes is a lousy period to have 1 goal on average.

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