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jamiemartin721 Reading 30 Oct 17 11.53am | |
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Originally posted by crystal balls
It's got nothing to do with Trump's objective; he's just a reality game show host who's accidentally got to be President and is running with it. He never believed he'd win! I don't think that's true. Maybe when he first started running for the Republican primaries that might have been true - But once he started polling support, its pretty clear he had a shot at the Republican nomination - and once you've won that, you've got a very realistic chance of winning it. He might be dumb, but he's not so stupid as to think he stood no chance. Whilst its true not everyone runs for President in the early stages thinks they're going to win, by the time you're about half way into the party primaries you have a reasonable idea of your chances.
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Stirlingsays 30 Oct 17 11.56am | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
I don't think that's true. Maybe when he first started running for the Republican primaries that might have been true - But once he started polling support, its pretty clear he had a shot at the Republican nomination - and once you've won that, you've got a very realistic chance of winning it. He might be dumb, but he's not so stupid as to think he stood no chance. Whilst its true not everyone runs for President in the early stages thinks they're going to win, by the time you're about half way into the party primaries you have a reasonable idea of your chances. The Simpsons predicted President Trump. I was waiting for Adam West to become major....guess that's impossible now.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 30 Oct 17 1.15pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The Simpsons predicted President Trump. I was waiting for Adam West to become major....guess that's impossible now. Akria predicted that the 2020 Olympics would be held in (Neo) Tokyo. Now that to me means that the Olympic mascot has to be Kaneda or his bike. Animation seems to be prophetic...
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Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 30 Oct 17 1.19pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Akria predicted that the 2020 Olympics would be held in (Neo) Tokyo. Now that to me means that the Olympic mascot has to be Kaneda or his bike. Animation seems to be prophetic... Even Tetsuo in full end-game giant blob mode would be a better Olympic mascot that the one-eyed trouser snake we came up with for London 2012.
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Stuk Top half 30 Oct 17 4.35pm | |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
You are correct that they do not produce video content for every story they cover. But the video content they do produce portrays no negativity for the Democrats. That is false reporting, whether it's on the YouTube page, the website, their radio shows etc. It's the BBC and it's supposed to be impartial. I am specifically referring to the BBC's YouTube channel which has 1.6 million subscribers around the world. The story was buried, and you know for certain if it involved Trump, then it would have been the top story. And the BBC pumps out fake news like this: Mike Pence ignores Nasa 'do not touch' sign [Link] I mean really?? Edited by Penge Eagle (27 Oct 2017 8.00pm) I'm sure I could probably find some, but in regards to video I'd say it's more selective reporting than false reporting. Just use the main website if you want to get all of their content/coverage. I'm not sure why they even need/have a YouTube page when it's all on their own website. If you only use a selective source, or number of them, you'll get selective reporting. They don't bury things on the main news site. Mike Pence did touch a NASA piece of kit that had a a "do not touch" sign on it so how is that "fake news"? That is what nick's (repeated) links are on here, and not what the BBC produce. I'd call it pointless news, or light-hearted news, which is evident from his own responses to the stories.
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Penge Eagle Beckenham 30 Oct 17 6.38pm | |
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Originally posted by Stuk
I'm sure I could probably find some, but in regards to video I'd say it's more selective reporting than false reporting. Just use the main website if you want to get all of their content/coverage. I'm not sure why they even need/have a YouTube page when it's all on their own website. If you only use a selective source, or number of them, you'll get selective reporting. They don't bury things on the main news site. Mike Pence did touch a NASA piece of kit that had a a "do not touch" sign on it so how is that "fake news"? That is what nick's (repeated) links are on here, and not what the BBC produce. I'd call it pointless news, or light-hearted news, which is evident from his own responses to the stories. "If you only use a selective source, or number of them, you'll get selective reporting." That is rubbish! If you select random stories, you select them even handedly. I do use the BBC website and that too has anti-Trump and anti-Bexit bias. It's harder to argue on some days whether the order of importance of their stories on the homepage are justified. Certainly anti-Democrat stuff gets buried and anti-Trump stuff is pushed higher up the pecking order and it happens more often. But it's harder to monitor as the home page changes regularly throughout the day, unlike the YouTube page where it's obvious. Living in the UK, I always felt that Obama was this fantastic president because we never really got any negative stories on him by MSM. Speaking to people in the US and doing my own research, I can see that it's a very different story. Again, how many negative storied on him can you find? MSM certainly has an agenda. I like consuming video content and use YouTube every day for a variety of different subjects, music, news, entertainment. I find it easy to navigate and see short clips on what's happening and subscribe to many media outlets. If the BBC wants to promote its content through social media channels, then it must still adopt fair reporting. Forget the bias story selections, even its reporting on Trump is bad. Another reason why I mention its YouTube channel is because it's very easy to view the story choice at a glance and stories can't be hidden. I don't need to spend hours a week trawling their various TV and radio channels making notes on bias – its all their to see. OK, let's agree on selective reporting here then. It's not their job to do that. They are supposed to have no political bias. I look forward to seeing your tally of anti-Dem stories! And the Mike Pence story is simply a non story. It has been written in order to make Pence look stupid or ignorant and another example of MSM trying to undermine the Trump administration.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 30 Oct 17 6.50pm | |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
"If you only use a selective source, or number of them, you'll get selective reporting." That is rubbish! If you select random stories, you select them even handedly. I do use the BBC website and that too has anti-Trump and anti-Bexit bias. It's harder to argue on some days whether the order of importance of their stories on the homepage are justified. Certainly anti-Democrat stuff gets buried and anti-Trump stuff is pushed higher up the pecking order and it happens more often. But it's harder to monitor as the home page changes regularly throughout the day, unlike the YouTube page where it's obvious. Living in the UK, I always felt that Obama was this fantastic president because we never really got any negative stories on him by MSM. Speaking to people in the US and doing my own research, I can see that it's a very different story. Again, how many negative storied on him can you find? MSM certainly has an agenda. I like consuming video content and use YouTube every day for a variety of different subjects, music, news, entertainment. I find it easy to navigate and see short clips on what's happening and subscribe to many media outlets. If the BBC wants to promote its content through social media channels, then it must still adopt fair reporting. Forget the bias story selections, even its reporting on Trump is bad. Another reason why I mention its YouTube channel is because it's very easy to view the story choice at a glance and stories can't be hidden. I don't need to spend hours a week trawling their various TV and radio channels making notes on bias – its all their to see. OK, let's agree on selective reporting here then. It's not their job to do that. They are supposed to have no political bias. I look forward to seeing your tally of anti-Dem stories! And the Mike Pence story is simply a non story. It has been written in order to make Pence look stupid or ignorant and another example of MSM trying to undermine the Trump administration. Al Jazeera is the way forward.
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Penge Eagle Beckenham 30 Oct 17 6.51pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Al Jazeera is the way forward. Another intelligent post!
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 30 Oct 17 6.51pm | |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
"If you only use a selective source, or number of them, you'll get selective reporting." That is rubbish! If you select random stories, you select them even handedly. I do use the BBC website and that too has anti-Trump and anti-Bexit bias. It's harder to argue on some days whether the order of importance of their stories on the homepage are justified. Certainly anti-Democrat stuff gets buried and anti-Trump stuff is pushed higher up the pecking order and it happens more often. But it's harder to monitor as the home page changes regularly throughout the day, unlike the YouTube page where it's obvious. Living in the UK, I always felt that Obama was this fantastic president because we never really got any negative stories on him by MSM. Speaking to people in the US and doing my own research, I can see that it's a very different story. Again, how many negative storied on him can you find? MSM certainly has an agenda. I like consuming video content and use YouTube every day for a variety of different subjects, music, news, entertainment. I find it easy to navigate and see short clips on what's happening and subscribe to many media outlets. If the BBC wants to promote its content through social media channels, then it must still adopt fair reporting. Forget the bias story selections, even its reporting on Trump is bad. Another reason why I mention its YouTube channel is because it's very easy to view the story choice at a glance and stories can't be hidden. I don't need to spend hours a week trawling their various TV and radio channels making notes on bias – its all their to see. OK, let's agree on selective reporting here then. It's not their job to do that. They are supposed to have no political bias. I look forward to seeing your tally of anti-Dem stories! And the Mike Pence story is simply a non story. It has been written in order to make Pence look stupid or ignorant and another example of MSM trying to undermine the Trump administration. Haven't you got better things to look forward to?
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Penge Eagle Beckenham 30 Oct 17 6.54pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Haven't you got better things to look forward to? I like to see opinions based on evidence. It's a sensible way of debating. You should try it! Edited by Penge Eagle (30 Oct 2017 6.54pm)
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 30 Oct 17 7.08pm | |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
I like to see opinions based on evidence. It's a sensible way of debating. You should try it! Edited by Penge Eagle (30 Oct 2017 6.54pm) Trouble is, whatever evidence is given will be dismissed regardless.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 31 Oct 17 1.38pm | |
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Well its starting to look like the Russia story isn't quite the non-story, with two indictments handed down and at least one collaborating witness, all three of whom are heavily inside the Trump election campaign - Along with the resignation (and likely to be charged) Democratic lobbyist. It'll be curious to see how the President responds to what is clearly a non-partisan investigation - And what Manafort and Gates will do (given that the Money Laundering charges seem pretty much iron clad charges based on the FBI's case description).
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