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Hrolf The Ganger 05 Jun 17 4.37pm
Originally posted by europalace er, why shouldn't I? Maybe because I have a different opinion to yours? Maybe because I'm more open minded to see the world from a different and clearly broader perspective? Well presumably you see advantage to living in the West but you spend most of your time criticising it. Can you not see the enormous hypocrisy in that?
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Originally posted by europalace

er, why shouldn't I? Maybe because I have a different opinion to yours? Maybe because I'm more open minded to see the world from a different and clearly broader perspective?

Well presumably you see advantage to living in the West but you spend most of your time criticising it. Can you not see the enormous hypocrisy in that?

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Kermit8 Hevon 05 Jun 17 4.39pm
Interesting... ".....An investigation into the foreign funding and support of jihadi groups that was authorised by David Cameron may never be published, the Home Office has admitted. The inquiry into revenue streams for extremist groups operating in the UK was commissioned by the former prime minister and is thought to focus on Saudi Arabia, which has repeatedly been highlighted by European leaders as a funding source for Islamist jihadis. The investigation was launched as part of a deal with the Liberal Democrats in exchange for the party supporting the extension of British airstrikes against Islamic State into Syria in December 2015. Tom Brake, the Lib Dem foreign affairs spokesman, has written to the prime minister asking her to confirm that the investigation will not be shelved. The Observer reported in January last year that the Home Office’s extremism analysis unit had been directed by Downing Street to investigate overseas funding of extremist groups in the UK, with findings to be shown to Theresa May, then home secretary, and Cameron. However, 18 months later, the Home Office confirmed the report had not yet been completed and said it would not necessarily be published, calling the contents “very sensitive”. A decision would be taken “after the election by the next government” about the future of the investigation, a Home Office spokesman said. In his letter to May, Brake wrote: “As home secretary at the time, your department was one of those leading on the report. Eighteen months later, and following two horrific terrorist attacks by British-born citizens, that report still remains incomplete and unpublished. “It is no secret that Saudi Arabia in particular provides funding to hundreds of mosques in the UK, espousing a very hardline Wahhabist interpretation of Islam. It is often in these institutions that British extremism takes root.” The contents of the report may prove politically as well as legally sensitive. Saudi Arabia, which has been a funding source for fundamentalist Islamist preachers and mosques, was visited by May earlier this year. Last December, a leaked report from Germany’s federal intelligence service accused several Gulf groups of funding religious schools and radical Salafist preachers in mosques, calling it “a long-term strategy of influence” Edited by Kermit8 (05 Jun 2017 4.41pm) Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 05 Jun 17 4.39pm

Interesting...

".....An investigation into the foreign funding and support of jihadi groups that was authorised by David Cameron may never be published, the Home Office has admitted.

The inquiry into revenue streams for extremist groups operating in the UK was commissioned by the former prime minister and is thought to focus on Saudi Arabia, which has repeatedly been highlighted by European leaders as a funding source for Islamist jihadis.

The investigation was launched as part of a deal with the Liberal Democrats in exchange for the party supporting the extension of British airstrikes against Islamic State into Syria in December 2015.

Tom Brake, the Lib Dem foreign affairs spokesman, has written to the prime minister asking her to confirm that the investigation will not be shelved.

The Observer reported in January last year that the Home Office’s extremism analysis unit had been directed by Downing Street to investigate overseas funding of extremist groups in the UK, with findings to be shown to Theresa May, then home secretary, and Cameron.

However, 18 months later, the Home Office confirmed the report had not yet been completed and said it would not necessarily be published, calling the contents “very sensitive”.

A decision would be taken “after the election by the next government” about the future of the investigation, a Home Office spokesman said.

In his letter to May, Brake wrote: “As home secretary at the time, your department was one of those leading on the report. Eighteen months later, and following two horrific terrorist attacks by British-born citizens, that report still remains incomplete and unpublished.

“It is no secret that Saudi Arabia in particular provides funding to hundreds of mosques in the UK, espousing a very hardline Wahhabist interpretation of Islam. It is often in these institutions that British extremism takes root.”

The contents of the report may prove politically as well as legally sensitive. Saudi Arabia, which has been a funding source for fundamentalist Islamist preachers and mosques, was visited by May earlier this year.

Last December, a leaked report from Germany’s federal intelligence service accused several Gulf groups of funding religious schools and radical Salafist preachers in mosques, calling it “a long-term strategy of influence”

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 05 Jun 17 4.41pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 You remind me of an alcoholic if you think that whatever our foreign policy was it would make any difference to the fascists. Reminds me of a dick head. "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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wherever I lay my hat....... 05 Jun 17 4.41pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

You remind me of an alcoholic if you think that whatever our foreign policy was it would make any difference to the fascists.

Reminds me of a dick head.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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europalace Europe 05 Jun 17 4.41pm
Originally posted by dannyh I started high lighting the absolute apologist vomit you are spewing an then gave up. They way that post reads it's like your actually proud of their achievements. Please feel free to elaborate on your clear admiration for these w*ers, I will only be to happy to pass your ill advised bile up the chain to very interested parties. No, you would like someone to show 'clear eleboration for these wers' as you so intelligently quoted or try to paint people that way. The sooner people like yourself pull your heads out of some very deep sand, the sooner future families stop having to put their loved ones in the ground. Edited by europalace (05 Jun 2017 4.41pm)
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Europe 05 Jun 17 4.41pm

Originally posted by dannyh

I started high lighting the absolute apologist vomit you are spewing an then gave up.

They way that post reads it's like your actually proud of their achievements. Please feel free to elaborate on your clear admiration for these w***ers, I will only be to happy to pass your ill advised bile up the chain to very interested parties.

No, you would like someone to show 'clear eleboration for these w**ers' as you so intelligently quoted or try to paint people that way. The sooner people like yourself pull your heads out of some very deep sand, the sooner future families stop having to put their loved ones in the ground.

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NKEagle Pyongyang 05 Jun 17 4.44pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 You remind me of an alcoholic if you think that whatever our foreign policy was it would make any difference to the fascists. I'd wager that most of the young men who carry out these attacks are motivated more by the whole 72 virgins/eternal paradise thing than by what have been alleged by some to be legitimate political grievances. I think it's giving them too much credit to say that they have sufficient knowledge of geopolitical affairs to form a reasoned political justification for their acts.
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Pyongyang 05 Jun 17 4.44pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

You remind me of an alcoholic if you think that whatever our foreign policy was it would make any difference to the fascists.

I'd wager that most of the young men who carry out these attacks are motivated more by the whole 72 virgins/eternal paradise thing than by what have been alleged by some to be legitimate political grievances. I think it's giving them too much credit to say that they have sufficient knowledge of geopolitical affairs to form a reasoned political justification for their acts.

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Hrolf The Ganger 05 Jun 17 4.44pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Interesting... ".....An investigation into the foreign funding and support of jihadi groups that was authorised by David Cameron may never be published, the Home Office has admitted. The inquiry into revenue streams for extremist groups operating in the UK was commissioned by the former prime minister and is thought to focus on Saudi Arabia, which has repeatedly been highlighted by European leaders as a funding source for Islamist jihadis. The investigation was launched as part of a deal with the Liberal Democrats in exchange for the party supporting the extension of British airstrikes against Islamic State into Syria in December 2015. Tom Brake, the Lib Dem foreign affairs spokesman, has written to the prime minister asking her to confirm that the investigation will not be shelved. The Observer reported in January last year that the Home Office’s extremism analysis unit had been directed by Downing Street to investigate overseas funding of extremist groups in the UK, with findings to be shown to Theresa May, then home secretary, and Cameron. However, 18 months later, the Home Office confirmed the report had not yet been completed and said it would not necessarily be published, calling the contents “very sensitive”. A decision would be taken “after the election by the next government” about the future of the investigation, a Home Office spokesman said. In his letter to May, Brake wrote: “As home secretary at the time, your department was one of those leading on the report. Eighteen months later, and following two horrific terrorist attacks by British-born citizens, that report still remains incomplete and unpublished. “It is no secret that Saudi Arabia in particular provides funding to hundreds of mosques in the UK, espousing a very hardline Wahhabist interpretation of Islam. It is often in these institutions that British extremism takes root.” The contents of the report may prove politically as well as legally sensitive. Saudi Arabia, which has been a funding source for fundamentalist Islamist preachers and mosques, was visited by May earlier this year. Last December, a leaked report from Germany’s federal intelligence service accused several Gulf groups of funding religious schools and radical Salafist preachers in mosques, calling it “a long-term strategy of influence” Edited by Kermit8 (05 Jun 2017 4.41pm) I don't pretend to have a full insight into the tangled web of covert foreign policy but I'm sure that we must end the influence of anti Western propaganda in our towns and cities by any and all means possible. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (05 Jun 2017 4.45pm)
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05 Jun 17 4.44pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Interesting...

".....An investigation into the foreign funding and support of jihadi groups that was authorised by David Cameron may never be published, the Home Office has admitted.

Edited by Kermit8 (05 Jun 2017 4.41pm)

I don't pretend to have a full insight into the tangled web of covert foreign policy but I'm sure that we must end the influence of anti Western propaganda in our towns and cities by any and all means possible.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (05 Jun 2017 4.45pm)

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Kermit8 Hevon 05 Jun 17 4.45pm
^^^^ I fear what that is leading up to is that this sh1tbag of a public-sector raping of a Government are going to do the sum total of fvck all about 'the problem' once they are re-elected. Vote Tory? Ha,ha - bunch of jokers. Dangerous jokers. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 05 Jun 17 4.45pm

^^^^

I fear what that is leading up to is that this sh1tbag of a public-sector raping of a Government are going to do the sum total of fvck all about 'the problem' once they are re-elected.

Vote Tory? Ha,ha - bunch of jokers. Dangerous jokers.

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elgrande bedford 05 Jun 17 4.45pm
Originally posted by europalace No, you would like someone to show 'clear eleboration for these w**ers' as you so intelligently quoted or try to paint people that way. The sooner people like yourself pull your heads out of some very deep sand, the sooner future families stop having to put their loved ones in the ground. Edited by europalace (05 Jun 2017 4.41pm) I asked you the other day,and you didn't reply. Our foreign policy does that include having a RAF Base on Malta,during the second world war. I do believe that they all got medals for defending your island. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 05 Jun 17 4.45pm

Originally posted by europalace

Edited by europalace (05 Jun 2017 4.41pm)

I asked you the other day,and you didn't reply.

Our foreign policy does that include having a RAF Base on Malta,during the second world war.
I do believe that they all got medals for defending your island.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 05 Jun 17 4.45pm
Originally posted by europalace No, you would like someone to show 'clear eleboration for these w**ers' as you so intelligently quoted or try to paint people that way. The sooner people like yourself pull your heads out of some very deep sand, the sooner future families stop having to put their loved ones in the ground. Edited by europalace (05 Jun 2017 4.41pm) Keep going. You are sympathising with men who killed innocent women and children. But please do continue. ohh and by the way if your going to try (badly) and rip the piss out of someone's intelligence, best you run your apologist bullsh1t through spell check first. Idiot. "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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wherever I lay my hat....... 05 Jun 17 4.45pm

Originally posted by europalace

Edited by europalace (05 Jun 2017 4.41pm)

Keep going. You are sympathising with men who killed innocent women and children. But please do continue. ohh and by the way if your going to try (badly) and rip the piss out of someone's intelligence, best you run your apologist bullsh1t through spell check first. Idiot.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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Stirlingsays 05 Jun 17 4.46pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Glad you're not in charge of anti terrorism. Should we try and understand what it is that leads to these idiots doing what they do boss? No. If they look iffy shoot the c*** and put the rest of their family in prison. How on earth can you criticism his approach? It's been the 'understanding' approach that's been in action since 7/7 donkey's years ago. Bleeding useless and fiddling while Rome burns....and all while the problem grows in number. The left have zero solutions to this problem...apparently adding the odd copper on the street is going to stop vans mowing people down......they are the 'John Lennon', 'lets sit around hold hands and sing imagine' while our kids are butchered party. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jun 2017 4.47pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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05 Jun 17 4.46pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Glad you're not in charge of anti terrorism.

Should we try and understand what it is that leads to these idiots doing what they do boss?

No. If they look iffy shoot the c*** and put the rest of their family in prison.

How on earth can you criticism his approach? It's been the 'understanding' approach that's been in action since 7/7 donkey's years ago.

Bleeding useless and fiddling while Rome burns....and all while the problem grows in number.

The left have zero solutions to this problem...apparently adding the odd copper on the street is going to stop vans mowing people down......they are the 'John Lennon', 'lets sit around hold hands and sing imagine' while our kids are butchered party.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jun 2017 4.47pm)

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 05 Jun 17 4.47pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 ^^^^ I fear what that is leading up to is that this sh1tbag of a public-sector raping of a Government are going to do the sum total of fvck all about 'the problem' once they are re-elected. Vote Tory? Ha,ha - bunch of jokers. Dangerous jokers. Oh I see, and Corbyn is the better option to defeat IS how exactly ? "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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wherever I lay my hat....... 05 Jun 17 4.47pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

^^^^

I fear what that is leading up to is that this sh1tbag of a public-sector raping of a Government are going to do the sum total of fvck all about 'the problem' once they are re-elected.

Vote Tory? Ha,ha - bunch of jokers. Dangerous jokers.

Oh I see, and Corbyn is the better option to defeat IS how exactly ?

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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europalace Europe 05 Jun 17 4.48pm
Originally posted by dannyh Keep going. You are sympathising with men who killed innocent women and children. But please do continue. ohh and by the way if your going to try (badly) and rip the piss out of someone's intelligence, best you run your apologist bullsh1t through spell check first. Idiot. er, no. You want to paint someone in a way to suit your close minded agenda. Still, having resorted to personal insults you've epically failed in this discussion. Thanks for making it so easy for me.
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Europe 05 Jun 17 4.48pm

Originally posted by dannyh

er, no. You want to paint someone in a way to suit your close minded agenda. Still, having resorted to personal insults you've epically failed in this discussion. Thanks for making it so easy for me.

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