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DanH SW2 19 Jan 21 8.39am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Errrr...did you even read your own link? The quote they are referring to isn't the one I reference. Secondly, from your own link my quote comes from a memoir of Stalin. The quote I referenced is attributed to Stalin from a memoir written by his personal secretary. I often wonder about you Dan. Are you really an accountant or do you just take the clients around for drinks or something?. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jan 2021 8.35am) There are several sources saying there is nothing directly attributing it to Stalin. The Twain one wasn’t him either. Didn’t you used to be a teacher? If you took this approach to referencing an academic paper you would be torn to shreds. Edited by DanH (19 Jan 2021 8.41am)
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SW2 19 Jan 21 8.39am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Errrr...did you even read your own link? The quote they are referring to isn't the one I reference.
Secondly, from your own link my quote comes from a memoir of Stalin.

The quote I referenced is attributed to Stalin from a memoir written by his personal secretary.

I often wonder about you Dan. Are you really an accountant or do you just take the clients around for drinks or something?.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jan 2021 8.35am)

There are several sources saying there is nothing directly attributing it to Stalin.

The Twain one wasn’t him either.

Didn’t you used to be a teacher? If you took this approach to referencing an academic paper you would be torn to shreds.

Edited by DanH (19 Jan 2021 8.41am)

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Stirlingsays 19 Jan 21 8.42am
Originally posted by DanH There are several sources saying there is nothing directly attributing it to Stalin. The Twain one wasn’t him either. I would say his former personal secretary is evidence enough. As for Twain, I'll check that. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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19 Jan 21 8.42am

Originally posted by DanH

There are several sources saying there is nothing directly attributing it to Stalin.

The Twain one wasn’t him either.

I would say his former personal secretary is evidence enough.

As for Twain, I'll check that.

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Stirlingsays 19 Jan 21 8.52am
I'll withdrawn the Twain attribution to what is otherwise a rather accurate piece of advice. As for my teaching....I taught IT and computing, not English literature. You on the other hand work in an industry that dances for the wealthy while you yourself profess 'progressive' beliefs. So I'll take no judgements on me from the likes of hypocrites. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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19 Jan 21 8.52am

I'll withdrawn the Twain attribution to what is otherwise a rather accurate piece of advice.

As for my teaching....I taught IT and computing, not English literature.

You on the other hand work in an industry that dances for the wealthy while you yourself profess 'progressive' beliefs.

So I'll take no judgements on me from the likes of hypocrites.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Teddy Eagle 19 Jan 21 8.53am
Do not answer a fool according to his folly, Or you will also be like him. Answer a fool as his folly deserves, That he not be wise in his own eyes. Proverbs 26:4 and 26:5
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Teddy Eagle

19 Jan 21 8.53am

Do not answer a fool according to his folly,
Or you will also be like him.
Answer a fool as his folly deserves,
That he not be wise in his own eyes.

Proverbs 26:4 and 26:5

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Stirlingsays 19 Jan 21 9.14am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Do not answer a fool according to his folly, Or you will also be like him. Answer a fool as his folly deserves, That he not be wise in his own eyes. Proverbs 26:4 and 26:5 Probably the original written sentiments. Another more modern quote along the same lines that has an unknown precise origin is: 'Never wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty, and the pig likes it'. (Anon) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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19 Jan 21 9.14am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Do not answer a fool according to his folly,
Or you will also be like him.
Answer a fool as his folly deserves,
That he not be wise in his own eyes.

Proverbs 26:4 and 26:5

Probably the original written sentiments.

Another more modern quote along the same lines that has an unknown precise origin is:

'Never wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty, and the pig likes it'. (Anon)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Teddy Eagle 19 Jan 21 9.21am
Billy Connolly had a line he said was told to him by a man in Northern Ireland. Wherever you go, never take an idiot with you: you can be sure to meet one when you get there.
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Teddy Eagle

19 Jan 21 9.21am

Billy Connolly had a line he said was told to him by a man in Northern Ireland.
Wherever you go, never take an idiot with you: you can be sure to meet one when you get there.

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DanH SW2 19 Jan 21 9.34am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I'll withdrawn the Twain attribution to what is otherwise a rather accurate piece of advice. As for my teaching....I taught IT and computing, not English literature. You on the other hand work in an industry that dances for the wealthy while you yourself profess 'progressive' beliefs. So I'll take no judgements on me from the likes of hypocrites. So what? I studied economics but still had to reference every single quote and source to validate it's accuracy. It's not limited to English Lit. I also work in an industry that is one of the most heavily regulated, both domestically and internationally, with a myriad of laws, regulations and standards to be met and adhered to. It's also one where accuracy matters a lot. It also gives you a good nose for b*llocks, which goes into overdrive reading your posts.
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SW2 19 Jan 21 9.34am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'll withdrawn the Twain attribution to what is otherwise a rather accurate piece of advice.

As for my teaching....I taught IT and computing, not English literature.

You on the other hand work in an industry that dances for the wealthy while you yourself profess 'progressive' beliefs.

So I'll take no judgements on me from the likes of hypocrites.

So what? I studied economics but still had to reference every single quote and source to validate it's accuracy. It's not limited to English Lit.

I also work in an industry that is one of the most heavily regulated, both domestically and internationally, with a myriad of laws, regulations and standards to be met and adhered to. It's also one where accuracy matters a lot. It also gives you a good nose for b*llocks, which goes into overdrive reading your posts.

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Stirlingsays 19 Jan 21 9.57am
Originally posted by DanH So what? I studied economics but still had to reference every single quote and source to validate it's accuracy. It's not limited to English Lit. I also work in an industry that is one of the most heavily regulated, both domestically and internationally, with a myriad of laws, regulations and standards to be met and adhered to. It's also one where accuracy matters a lot. It also gives you a good nose for b*llocks, which goes into overdrive reading your posts. 'It's accuracy'. It's amusing that you come on here concerned about referencing the accuracy of English quote attribution when your own English grammar seems to be at novice level: so much for a concern for accuracy. Concerning the quotes, well both contain truth. While the accuracy of attribution is valid to mention. I think it's also a sign of pendency to over focus upon that rather than the message on a forum. As for accountancy, well when it's work for the wealthy to improve their financial situation still further a question of immorally can be raised in terms of 'social justice'. Most know that those clients are highly sought after, so while you can talk about regulations all you like, the reality of the result is different. The fact that this is your profession while you claim to be a 'progressive' has always been a source of low level amusement to me. As for my own personal views on accountancy for the wealthy and the advantages it creates I have a mixed perspective on it. However I'm not the so called 'progressive' here. I'll end this reply with what seems most apparent to me, which is the chip on your shoulder concerning myself. It's ironic that the left reference 'hate' so much when the main source of it seems to come from its supporters. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jan 2021 10.29am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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19 Jan 21 9.57am

Originally posted by DanH

So what? I studied economics but still had to reference every single quote and source to validate it's accuracy. It's not limited to English Lit.

'It's accuracy'.

It's amusing that you come on here concerned about referencing the accuracy of English quote attribution when your own English grammar seems to be at novice level: so much for a concern for accuracy.

Concerning the quotes, well both contain truth. While the accuracy of attribution is valid to mention. I think it's also a sign of pendency to over focus upon that rather than the message on a forum.

As for accountancy, well when it's work for the wealthy to improve their financial situation still further a question of immorally can be raised in terms of 'social justice'. Most know that those clients are highly sought after, so while you can talk about regulations all you like, the reality of the result is different.

The fact that this is your profession while you claim to be a 'progressive' has always been a source of low level amusement to me.

As for my own personal views on accountancy for the wealthy and the advantages it creates I have a mixed perspective on it.

However I'm not the so called 'progressive' here.

I'll end this reply with what seems most apparent to me, which is the chip on your shoulder concerning myself. It's ironic that the left reference 'hate' so much when the main source of it seems to come from its supporters.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jan 2021 10.29am)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jan 21 10.32am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Right. Unless the court found no case to answer because it had been infiltrated by right wing extremists. Do you really think that courts can get infiltrated? Even if the Judges are politically appointed in the USA and some lean one way or another their primary loyalty is always to the law. As the Supreme Court recently demonstrated when throwing out a Trump attempt at overturning the election result. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 19 Jan 21 10.32am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Right. Unless the court found no case to answer because it had been infiltrated by right wing extremists.

Do you really think that courts can get infiltrated?

Even if the Judges are politically appointed in the USA and some lean one way or another their primary loyalty is always to the law. As the Supreme Court recently demonstrated when throwing out a Trump attempt at overturning the election result.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 19 Jan 21 10.44am
Trump doing what he does best on his last day as 'President' – temper tantruming all over the shop Latest example Lifting Covid travel restrictions on the UK, Ireland, the European Union, and Brazil. Sounds like a great idea According to the final gallop poll His approval rating has now dropped to 34%. Apparently he's the only president never to have hit 50% job approval, making him the least popular president in polling history. Figures Edited by SW19 CPFC (19 Jan 2021 10.47am) Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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Addiscombe West 19 Jan 21 10.44am

Trump doing what he does best on his last day as 'President' – temper tantruming all over the shop

Latest example

Lifting Covid travel restrictions on the UK, Ireland, the European Union, and Brazil. Sounds like a great idea

According to the final gallop poll His approval rating has now dropped to 34%. Apparently he's the only president never to have hit 50% job approval, making him the least popular president in polling history. Figures

Edited by SW19 CPFC (19 Jan 2021 10.47am)

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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Eaglecoops CR3 19 Jan 21 11.00am
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Trump doing what he does best on his last day as 'President' – temper tantruming all over the shop Latest example Lifting Covid travel restrictions on the UK, Ireland, the European Union, and Brazil. Sounds like a great idea According to the final gallop poll His approval rating has now dropped to 34%. Apparently he's the only president never to have hit 50% job approval, making him the least popular president in polling history. Figures Edited by SW19 CPFC (19 Jan 2021 10.47am) Why is anyone in the least bit bothered about approval ratings when he is gone tomorrow, haven’t they got more important things to worry about. Forgetting the fact that he is politically inept, how has he done financially during his term? I’m interested to know because that seems the more likely area where he may have had a positive influence.
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CR3 19 Jan 21 11.00am

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Trump doing what he does best on his last day as 'President' – temper tantruming all over the shop

Latest example

Lifting Covid travel restrictions on the UK, Ireland, the European Union, and Brazil. Sounds like a great idea

Edited by SW19 CPFC (19 Jan 2021 10.47am)

Why is anyone in the least bit bothered about approval ratings when he is gone tomorrow, haven’t they got more important things to worry about. Forgetting the fact that he is politically inept, how has he done financially during his term? I’m interested to know because that seems the more likely area where he may have had a positive influence.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jan 21 11.20am
Originally posted by Jimenez Well as someone who was indeed there ME. I saw at first hand along Fifth Ave, Union Sq, Madison Sq Park & other places across NYC that somewhere in the region of 90% of them were White, Middle Class usually in their early 20s. The usual ragtag rent-a-mob who will & do turn up at any of these type of events. For the record the only people I saw protesting for 'Trump' were largely Hasidic & orthodox Jews who I happened to see hold a Pro Trump march one Sunday along 42nd St from Times Sq over to Midtown East, Quelle surprise the Antifa mob were there as well looking to start trouble. So if someone is "white" and in their early 20s it follows that they must be a middle class "rent a mob" type? I don't doubt that many were activists who passionately care about issues but if any either looted or caused damage then they weren't. They were criminals using genuine protests as cover. Decent law-abiding citizens, who believe in democracy, will protest about injustice when it was as awful as that which happened to Floyd. They aren't though criminals. Law-abiding citizens don't break the law. The fact that you don't see much support on the street in NY ought not be a surprise. It seems he isn't very popular there. I wonder why? For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 19 Jan 21 11.20am

Originally posted by Jimenez

Well as someone who was indeed there ME. I saw at first hand along Fifth Ave, Union Sq, Madison Sq Park & other places across NYC that somewhere in the region of 90% of them were White, Middle Class usually in their early 20s.
The usual ragtag rent-a-mob who will & do turn up at any of these type of events.
For the record the only people I saw protesting for 'Trump' were largely Hasidic & orthodox Jews who I happened to see hold a Pro Trump march one Sunday along 42nd St from Times Sq over to Midtown East, Quelle surprise the Antifa mob were there as well looking to start trouble.

So if someone is "white" and in their early 20s it follows that they must be a middle class "rent a mob" type? I don't doubt that many were activists who passionately care about issues but if any either looted or caused damage then they weren't. They were criminals using genuine protests as cover. Decent law-abiding citizens, who believe in democracy, will protest about injustice when it was as awful as that which happened to Floyd. They aren't though criminals. Law-abiding citizens don't break the law.

The fact that you don't see much support on the street in NY ought not be a surprise. It seems he isn't very popular there. I wonder why?

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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