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steve1984 30 Dec 18 9.25pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
So effective anti semites leave evidence that they are anti semites? Well I guess you might struggle to name any that haven't. But I'll be extremely impressed if you can name any anti-Semites who haven't. Edited by steve1984 (30 Dec 2018 9.29pm)
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steve1984 30 Dec 18 9.28pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Accusing people of 'isms'....denouncing this, denouncing that. He's part of the same 'witch hunt' type behaviour. Fair enough. Which -isms have particularly annoyed you? I thought that denouncing things was what a leader of the opposition was supposed to do? Denouncing Government policy etc. Don't get me wrong, I think he's a liability but it would be good to know what you think he shouldn't be denouncing.
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Stirlingsays 30 Dec 18 9.32pm | |
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Originally posted by steve1984
Well I guess you might struggle to name any that haven't.
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Stirlingsays 30 Dec 18 9.37pm | |
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Originally posted by steve1984
Fair enough. Which -isms have particularly annoyed you? I thought that denouncing things was what a leader of the opposition was supposed to do? Denouncing Government policy etc. Don't get me wrong, I think he's a liability but it would be good to know what you think he shouldn't be denouncing. Governmental policy....yeah...though just because you're called the opposition you don't have to automatically disagree on everything of course....Bipartisanship seems to be a dirty concept nowadays. Racism and sexism are the major bugbears with me.....they are vastly overstated. Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Dec 2018 9.40pm)
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steve1984 30 Dec 18 9.47pm | |
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So before moving on, I assume that you haven't been able to think of any anti-Semites that didn't leave evidence of their anti-Semitism. IMHO anti-Zionism is a very misleading label. Nobody seems to give a s*** about Bob Marley's belief in Zionism, which could be taken to mean that it isn't necessarily a bad thing in and of itself. It's how you go home that is the issue, not the simple desire to do so. I'd prefer to describe Corbyn as being against the policies of the Israeli government. I would agree that he has absolutely nothing to do with the long term decline in the number of Jewish people in the UK participating in organised religion. He's only been about for a few years. Edited by steve1984 (30 Dec 2018 9.52pm)
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steve1984 30 Dec 18 9.51pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I'm inclined to agree but then I'm also a white man. Bit like abortion which I don't take a position on 'cos it's unlikely to affect me personally.
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Stirlingsays 30 Dec 18 9.53pm | |
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Originally posted by steve1984
So before moving on, I assume that you haven't been able to think of any anti-Semites that didn't leave evidence of their anti-Semitism.
It's an illogical statement to begin with.
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steve1984 30 Dec 18 9.53pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
How can you be sure that you know where most of them are?
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steve1984 30 Dec 18 9.54pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's an illogical statement to begin with. Indeed. So until I see some, I'm disinclined to accuse him (or anyone else) of it.
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Stirlingsays 30 Dec 18 9.55pm | |
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Originally posted by steve1984
I'm inclined to agree but then I'm also a white man. Bit like abortion which I don't take a position on 'cos it's unlikely to affect me personally. Really? So stuff like affirmative action don't affect whites? 'Diversity' programmes don't affect white men?
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Stirlingsays 30 Dec 18 9.57pm | |
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Originally posted by steve1984
Indeed. So until I see some, I'm disinclined to accuse him (or anyone else) of it. You don't see anti semitism anywhere in the UK then?
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steve1984 30 Dec 18 9.58pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Really? So stuff like affirmative action don't affect whites? 'Diversity' programmes don't affect white men? For sure it does. But whilst I might be chasing the same job for example, I'm still quite unlikely to get pregnant. Edited by steve1984 (30 Dec 2018 10.00pm)
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