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Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 15 May 24 7.34pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Who would check the facts to verify their accuracy before deciding whether to publish. So how could anybody check that I was the son without me taking a DNA test?
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 May 24 9.39pm | |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
So how could anybody check that I was the son without me taking a DNA test? The same way everyone proves their identity. With documentation. Once proved records centrally held should provide parentage details.
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Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 15 May 24 10.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The same way everyone proves their identity. With documentation. Once proved records centrally held should provide parentage details. Yes, and that’s what the Home Office letter asked him to produce, but said a voluntary DNA test could be submitted instead. The article doesn’t state whether that documentation was forthcoming; if it was I can only assume that the DNA request has been focused on to get a bit more compensation. The Home Office was trying to be helpful by offering an alternative if documentation wasn’t available, but you can never cater to those that see offence where none is intended.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 May 24 8.37am | |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
Yes, and that’s what the Home Office letter asked him to produce, but said a voluntary DNA test could be submitted instead. The article doesn’t state whether that documentation was forthcoming; if it was I can only assume that the DNA request has been focused on to get a bit more compensation. The Home Office was trying to be helpful by offering an alternative if documentation wasn’t available, but you can never cater to those that see offence where none is intended. We can assume all kinds of things but the truth is we don’t know. You may well be right, and he is spinning a story, but it is unlikely to get him anywhere. Against that is the government apology and withdrawal of the DNA request, which seems odd if his story is untrue.
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Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 16 May 24 9.24am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
We can assume all kinds of things but the truth is we don’t know. You may well be right, and he is spinning a story, but it is unlikely to get him anywhere. Against that is the government apology and withdrawal of the DNA request, which seems odd if his story is untrue. If we don't know then the BBC has only given us half a story; not very good journalism. The DNA test was a voluntary route, not compulsory and I am sure that the Home Office has apologised to prevent the issue developing into something wider (you know, where the permanently offended gather together for this week's protest). I hope the BBC follow up on the story and we get the other half of it.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 May 24 5.13pm | |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
If we don't know then the BBC has only given us half a story; not very good journalism. The DNA test was a voluntary route, not compulsory and I am sure that the Home Office has apologised to prevent the issue developing into something wider (you know, where the permanently offended gather together for this week's protest). I hope the BBC follow up on the story and we get the other half of it. They have reported what was said to them and what they subsequently discovered themselves. They aren’t Judge and Jury. It’s up to us as individuals to determine whether we believe it or not. Or in this case whether there isn’t enough to decide. If any more comes to their attention they might return to it. That would depend on how important they think it is. I think it only got included on a slow news day!
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palace_in_frogland In a broken dream 21 May 24 9.58am | |
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The BBC’s royal charter sets out five “public purposes”, the very first of which is a commitment to impartiality. Yet the Israel-Hamas war has seen the BBC fail to deliver on this crucial test on more occasions than can be explained away as “errors” or bad luck. A source of repeated issues over impartiality is BBC Arabic. Since the October 7 terrorist attacks on Israel, BBC Arabic has been forced to make 80 corrections to its reporting. Something is going badly wrong. Mistakes don’t happen 80 times. The corporation was forced to remove an episode of the BBC Arabic programme Trending, which questioned whether the Kfar Aza kibbutz massacre on October 7 actually happened. This plays into an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory that seeks to undermine the terrible truth of what happened that day. How was a video of that nature produced and distributed by the BBC in the first place? How is it possible that editorial standards at BBC Arabic had fallen so low that this was seen as legitimate reporting? There is plenty more. Last month a BBC Arabic presenter asked an Egyptian guest to apologise for expressing sympathy for Israel. One BBC Arabic journalist interviewed a Palestinian woman about her life amid the conflict but decided it was not relevant to ask her directly about the time she stabbed an Israeli neighbour in front of her children. There is no sign that this blatant lack of impartiality at BBC Arabic will be dealt with any time soon by senior management. Yet this is not even the worst of it. The BBC continues to employ people who actually celebrated the October 7 terrorist attacks. Sally Nabil, a BBC Arabic correspondent, “liked” a number of tweets which appeared to legitimise the targeting of Jewish civilians, including tweets which called the October 7 atrocities “a morning of hope”. She also “liked” a comment on a video which showed footage of jeeps loaded with Jewish bodies and kidnapped civilians. Ms Nabil is still employed by the BBC. Another BBC Arabic journalist, Sanaa Khouri, reposted and liked tweets appearing to support the massacres, including one about celebratory sweets being distributed in Lebanon in its aftermath. The Beirut-based correspondent also tweeted in the wake of the attacks: “Israel’s prestige is crying in the corner”. Some BBC employees have even gone as far as mocking civilians who were kidnapped by Hamas. BBC executive producer Mahmoud Sheleib took part in a Twitter conversation shortly after October 7 in which he appeared to joke about a woman whose grandmother was abducted by the terrorist group. The BBC is employing people who celebrated the worst massacre of Jewish people since the Holocaust. This means that our licence fees are paying the wages of people who celebrated the rape and slaughter of men, women and children. How can this be possible? Why should we accept it? If any other publicly funded organisation supported terrorist sympathisers, the outcry would be enormous. Yet the BBC seems to be impervious to its problems, unwilling to recognise and address the management failures that are poisoning one of Britain’s great institutions. When breaches of impartiality are so egregious that they extend to the exaltation of a massacre, something has gone very wrong with the public broadcaster. But these scandals are made so much worse when the organisation fails to deal effectively with the problem. Indeed, far from publicly recognising the scale of this issue, the BBC has gone out of its way to support and endorse its Arabic service. Director-general Tim Davie has recently stated his admiration for BBC Arabic, saying that the service was something “we should be very proud of”. On taking the role of director-general, Davie chose to put impartiality at the heart of his tenure, describing it as his “number one priority”. Given the actions of BBC Arabic over the past seven months, it now seems clear that, unfortunately, he has failed in his mission in the most shameful way possible.
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Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 21 May 24 10.28am | |
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Originally posted by palace_in_frogland
The BBC’s royal charter sets out five “public purposes”, the very first of which is a commitment to impartiality. Yet the Israel-Hamas war has seen the BBC fail to deliver on this crucial test on more occasions than can be explained away as “errors” or bad luck. A source of repeated issues over impartiality is BBC Arabic. Since the October 7 terrorist attacks on Israel, BBC Arabic has been forced to make 80 corrections to its reporting. Something is going badly wrong. Mistakes don’t happen 80 times. The corporation was forced to remove an episode of the BBC Arabic programme Trending, which questioned whether the Kfar Aza kibbutz massacre on October 7 actually happened. This plays into an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory that seeks to undermine the terrible truth of what happened that day. How was a video of that nature produced and distributed by the BBC in the first place? How is it possible that editorial standards at BBC Arabic had fallen so low that this was seen as legitimate reporting? There is plenty more. Last month a BBC Arabic presenter asked an Egyptian guest to apologise for expressing sympathy for Israel. One BBC Arabic journalist interviewed a Palestinian woman about her life amid the conflict but decided it was not relevant to ask her directly about the time she stabbed an Israeli neighbour in front of her children. There is no sign that this blatant lack of impartiality at BBC Arabic will be dealt with any time soon by senior management. Yet this is not even the worst of it. The BBC continues to employ people who actually celebrated the October 7 terrorist attacks. Sally Nabil, a BBC Arabic correspondent, “liked” a number of tweets which appeared to legitimise the targeting of Jewish civilians, including tweets which called the October 7 atrocities “a morning of hope”. She also “liked” a comment on a video which showed footage of jeeps loaded with Jewish bodies and kidnapped civilians. Ms Nabil is still employed by the BBC. Another BBC Arabic journalist, Sanaa Khouri, reposted and liked tweets appearing to support the massacres, including one about celebratory sweets being distributed in Lebanon in its aftermath. The Beirut-based correspondent also tweeted in the wake of the attacks: “Israel’s prestige is crying in the corner”. Some BBC employees have even gone as far as mocking civilians who were kidnapped by Hamas. BBC executive producer Mahmoud Sheleib took part in a Twitter conversation shortly after October 7 in which he appeared to joke about a woman whose grandmother was abducted by the terrorist group. The BBC is employing people who celebrated the worst massacre of Jewish people since the Holocaust. This means that our licence fees are paying the wages of people who celebrated the rape and slaughter of men, women and children. How can this be possible? Why should we accept it? If any other publicly funded organisation supported terrorist sympathisers, the outcry would be enormous. Yet the BBC seems to be impervious to its problems, unwilling to recognise and address the management failures that are poisoning one of Britain’s great institutions. When breaches of impartiality are so egregious that they extend to the exaltation of a massacre, something has gone very wrong with the public broadcaster. But these scandals are made so much worse when the organisation fails to deal effectively with the problem. Indeed, far from publicly recognising the scale of this issue, the BBC has gone out of its way to support and endorse its Arabic service. Director-general Tim Davie has recently stated his admiration for BBC Arabic, saying that the service was something “we should be very proud of”. On taking the role of director-general, Davie chose to put impartiality at the heart of his tenure, describing it as his “number one priority”. Given the actions of BBC Arabic over the past seven months, it now seems clear that, unfortunately, he has failed in his mission in the most shameful way possible. Thank you for an enlightening article. I await Wisbech defending the BBC's stance...
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YT Oxford 21 May 24 11.47am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
They have reported what was said to them and what they subsequently discovered themselves. They aren’t Judge and Jury. It’s up to us as individuals to determine whether we believe it or not. Or in this case whether there isn’t enough to decide. If any more comes to their attention they might return to it. That would depend on how important they think it is. I think it only got included on a slow news day! How do you know what was said to them? Please present your evidence of what was said to them, otherwise your statement is mere conjecture.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 21 May 24 1.59pm | |
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beauty is in the eye of the beholder. 'impartiality' is in the ear of the listener. The bbc IS impartial, if you are a feminist globalist who hates straight white men, especially Ulster Catholics. Edited by PalazioVecchio (21 May 2024 2.00pm)
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The Dolphin 28 May 24 8.44am | |
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A main headline on the BBC website this morning - 121 business chiefs sign letter backing Labour The footnote is below - not very many hard hitters there but let's not let that get in the way of promoting Labour. Among those who have signed the letter in the Times is the TV chef and restaurateur Tom Kerridge, some chief executives of smaller companies, former Heathrow Airport chief executive John Holland-Kaye, JD Sports chairman Andrew Higginson and Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales. The chief executives of the UK’s very largest FTSE 100-size companies tend to avoid taking sides in elections, and have not today. It is also unclear how representative this group of Labour backers are of business in general and their sectors in particular.
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HKOwen Hong Kong 28 May 24 9.40am | |
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It's a " remember me in future honours lists " cohort If Tom Kerridge is one of the few named the rest must be even more inconsequential Edited by HKOwen (28 May 2024 9.45am)
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